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Posted: 1/17/2015 3:09:02 PM EDT
New 1911 owner here....was just wondering how others carry their 1911's.
Do you carry it charged hammer back safety on? Do you carry it charged hammer on half cock? Do you carry it charged hammer down? Do you carry it not charged? Thanks |
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Cocked & locked. Like Jeff Cooper calls condition 1.
Cocked, locked, and ready to rock. |
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Round chambered, hammer cocked, safety on. If you don't want to carry this way, then I highly suggest you carry a different gun.
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No option for Condition 0? Carried with the safety off?
Condition 1. |
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When I do carry it, full mag, round in the chamber, hammer back safety on...
Condition one.. RIP Jeff Cooper |
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Another condition 1 carry here. 1 round of 230 gr HST in the chamber and 8 friends in the mag.
5" steel frame, IWB at 4:00 |
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Cocked, stuck down front of pants.
Safety. Always. Off. If I was a bad ass anyway, I use a holster. Loaded safety on. |
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If I didn't carry it condition one, I'd carry it condition zero. A gun that's not ready is a club.
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If I carry it I carry it cocked and locked.
The CZ that has replaced my 1911 for everyday carry is also carried cocked and locked. |
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View Quote |
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Cocked and Locked.
4 o'clock OWB the Chip McCormick slim carry grips make it very concealable. |
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Cocked & locked, mag topped off.
Lately I've been really liking my cross-draw holsters- one is a straight up and the other is slightly canted. |
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For me, 1911's and similar guns are carried Condiiton 1, with only one exception. Back when I carried my old detonics mini-45 in a Ken Null SMZ (which I almost never use anymore), it was in Condition 2.
Why not Condition 1? Because the SMZ has a stiff plastic crosspiece that runs right thru the trigger guard, the detonics has a scallop that makes swiping the hammer back very fast, sure, and easy; and lastly because when I bought the holster, Mr. Null said not to. |
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In a pistol case. The only place my 1911s go anymore is to the range. Why carry an antique when there are far superior weapons that weigh less and hold more rounds. Before I was converted I did carry in condition one as that is how it was designed to be carried.
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Quoted: In a pistol case. The only place my 1911s go anymore is to the range. Why carry an antique when there are far superior weapons that weigh less and hold more rounds. Before I was converted I did carry in condition one as that is how it was designed to be carried. View Quote There's always one in every 1911 thread. Nick |
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Condition 1.
However, retiring the 1911 for EDC in favor of a 4 inch XD 45. My PTC instructor actually advocates carrying 1911's in condition 3. He then "demonstrated" how fast he could rack the slide and pull the trigger. Except he short stroked it and pulled the trigger too soon. Hammer didn't even fall, which he tried to hide. Nobody said anything. We just needed him to sign off on our papers so we could present them to the Gestapo and beg for our right to carry a weapon for 5 more years.
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Condition one is the way to go these days
Contrary to popular belief the original intent of the 1911 in service was NOT cocked and locked. If you study the early history of the 1911 the thumb safety was added at the request of the cavalry service. The original plan was to carry hammer down on a loaded chamber ( why the colt autos prior to the 1911 did not have a spring loaded firing pin like the 1911) And on the draw cock the hammer which was how it was done at that time with the revolvers that were typical of the era. The cav wanted the safety so if the pistol was drawn and cocked on horseback and then the horse got jumpy the soldier had a way to put it on safe until the situation stabilized. So in short is condition one Modern context the right way ? Absolutely Is it the original intent of the design as envisioned in 1911? No |
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