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Posted: 9/15/2014 11:32:15 AM EDT
[#1]
Appendix or pocket carry?
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Posted: 9/15/2014 11:44:01 AM EDT
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I'm a fan of kahr pistols. The cw9 is what I own I like it a lot. The cm9 is the smaller pocket version. I paid 350 for mine.
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Posted: 9/15/2014 11:48:58 AM EDT
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The alternate to my LW Commander is my Bersa Thunder 380.
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Posted: 9/15/2014 12:52:40 PM EDT
[#4]
Kahr CM9 is a great gun for under $400 if you shop around.
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Posted: 9/15/2014 1:36:48 PM EDT
[#5]
Look at the M&P Shield, too. It's almost the same size as the Kahr, and has a stack-and-half mag, which gets you an extra round.
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Posted: 9/15/2014 2:04:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Look at the M&P Shield, too. It's almost the same size as the Kahr, and has a stack-and-half mag, which gets you an extra round. I've looked at them. but I don't think I am gaining that much in size difference over my XD40SC. The grip is thinner, but the length is almost dead on.
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Posted: 9/15/2014 2:09:49 PM EDT
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Sig p938. Best concealed carry I've ever had. And if you look hard enough you can get it fir 5-550$. Get the extended mag, some ammo and a holster. You met the budget.
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Posted: 9/15/2014 2:12:42 PM EDT
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I've looked at them. but I don't think I am gaining that much in size difference over my XD40SC. The grip is thinner, but the length is almost dead on. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Look at the M&P Shield, too. It's almost the same size as the Kahr, and has a stack-and-half mag, which gets you an extra round. I've looked at them. but I don't think I am gaining that much in size difference over my XD40SC. The grip is thinner, but the length is almost dead on. I actually have both. You may be right about the length. I've never compared them, but the M&P is significantly thinner and lighter. I've given up carrying the XD. Another option to consider is the .40 Shield. That's what I carry. The stack-and-a-half gives you the same round count in .40 as 9mm's the same size. The recoil is much les than you would think. I have a Ruger LC9 that is much worse (and it's a piece of shit). |
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Posted: 9/15/2014 4:06:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I actually have both. You may be right about the length. I've never compared them, but the M&P is significantly thinner and lighter. I've given up carrying the XD. Another option to consider is the .40 Shield. That's what I carry. The stack-and-a-half gives you the same round count in .40 as 9mm's the same size. The recoil is much les than you would think. I have a Ruger LC9 that is much worse (and it's a piece of shit). Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Look at the M&P Shield, too. It's almost the same size as the Kahr, and has a stack-and-half mag, which gets you an extra round. I've looked at them. but I don't think I am gaining that much in size difference over my XD40SC. The grip is thinner, but the length is almost dead on. I actually have both. You may be right about the length. I've never compared them, but the M&P is significantly thinner and lighter. I've given up carrying the XD. Another option to consider is the .40 Shield. That's what I carry. The stack-and-a-half gives you the same round count in .40 as 9mm's the same size. The recoil is much les than you would think. I have a Ruger LC9 that is much worse (and it's a piece of shit). Just went to the LGS on my lunch and finger fucked a M&P Shield. I liked it. I may end up going that route.
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Posted: 9/15/2014 4:17:17 PM EDT
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Taurus TCP 738 .380cal "C" series I have one and it is outstanding. Fits with like zero printing in evrything from a pair of gym trunk to a suit jacket pocket. That way you got a great cc pistol and you keep $400.00 in your pocket.
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Posted: 9/15/2014 4:59:17 PM EDT
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XDS with Powder river spring kit rules.
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Posted: 9/15/2014 5:03:07 PM EDT
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Springfield XDs 9mm
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Posted: 9/15/2014 5:06:03 PM EDT
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Taurus TCP 738 .380cal "C" series I have one and it is outstanding. Fits with like zero printing in evrything from a pair of gym trunk to a suit jacket pocket. That way you got a great cc pistol and you keep $400.00 in your pocket. Friends don't let friends buy Taurus. I have a PT-99, bought in 1989, that I will never part with. I bought a 706 slim, and a .357 (669?) recently. I got a brand new 706 from them to sell when the frame split in half on the one I had, and the wheel gun went back to them 3 times before I could sell it in good conscience. They only make junk, now. |
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Posted: 9/15/2014 5:13:44 PM EDT
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Just went to the LGS on my lunch and finger fucked a M&P Shield. I liked it. I may end up going that route. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Look at the M&P Shield, too. It's almost the same size as the Kahr, and has a stack-and-half mag, which gets you an extra round. I've looked at them. but I don't think I am gaining that much in size difference over my XD40SC. The grip is thinner, but the length is almost dead on. I actually have both. You may be right about the length. I've never compared them, but the M&P is significantly thinner and lighter. I've given up carrying the XD. Another option to consider is the .40 Shield. That's what I carry. The stack-and-a-half gives you the same round count in .40 as 9mm's the same size. The recoil is much les than you would think. I have a Ruger LC9 that is much worse (and it's a piece of shit). Just went to the LGS on my lunch and finger fucked a M&P Shield. I liked it. I may end up going that route. You won't be disappointed. I bought an IWB holster and mag carrier from Wright Leather Works that I'm very pleased with. For the mag carrier, a single stack .45 carrier fits well. |
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Posted: 9/15/2014 6:38:15 PM EDT
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I'm looking to get a single stack 9mm or .380 small pistol for CCW. So far I have looked at the G42, LC9, S&W Body Guard, and LCP. I'd like the option to add night sights, but it is not a requirement. My budget is $600 max. Am I missing anything? Options from those who own them currently or have owned them? Of what you listed i would pick the LC9. I don't like 380 due to lack of power and availability and cost of ammo. All that being said, I got rid of my LC9 and got a shield since its striker fired like a glock, which I use for work and competition. IMO the thin-ness of the shield also makes it a great choice- I prefer a long thin gun for CCW over short and fat. YMMV. |
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Posted: 9/15/2014 6:59:14 PM EDT
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Of what you listed i would pick the LC9. I don't like 380 due to lack of power and availability and cost of ammo. All that being said, I got rid of my LC9 and got a shield since its striker fired like a glock, which I use for work and competition. IMO the thin-ness of the shield also makes it a great choice- I prefer a long thin gun for CCW over short and fat. YMMV. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm looking to get a single stack 9mm or .380 small pistol for CCW. So far I have looked at the G42, LC9, S&W Body Guard, and LCP. I'd like the option to add night sights, but it is not a requirement. My budget is $600 max. Am I missing anything? Options from those who own them currently or have owned them? Of what you listed i would pick the LC9. I don't like 380 due to lack of power and availability and cost of ammo. All that being said, I got rid of my LC9 and got a shield since its striker fired like a glock, which I use for work and competition. IMO the thin-ness of the shield also makes it a great choice- I prefer a long thin gun for CCW over short and fat. YMMV. I have an LC9. The plastic guide rod broke early on, and I replaced it with a SS one. The recoil is so brutal with the non-progressive spring that it left my hand shaking uncontrollably after a few mags. A heavier spring helped a lot with that, and the new hammer, transfer bar, and other assorted parts from Galloway made made the trigger pull and reset decent enough for me to finally get multiple hits on paper. I got a Hogue grip sleeve to put on it, which made the handle big enough to hang on to, which was good. So, a couple hundred bucks after I bought it, it's finally a useful pistol. Now, maybe 1000 rounds in, the slide is so loose, if I sent it back, I'm sure Ruger would just send me a new gun. Trouble is, I either have to put all of the old parts back in it, or start over. I'm afraid to fire it, and I won't sell someone else a POS like that. So, it sits in the safe. 
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Posted: 9/15/2014 7:13:15 PM EDT
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Just went to the LGS on my lunch and finger fucked a M&P Shield. I liked it. I may end up going that route. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Look at the M&P Shield, too. It's almost the same size as the Kahr, and has a stack-and-half mag, which gets you an extra round. I've looked at them. but I don't think I am gaining that much in size difference over my XD40SC. The grip is thinner, but the length is almost dead on. I actually have both. You may be right about the length. I've never compared them, but the M&P is significantly thinner and lighter. I've given up carrying the XD. Another option to consider is the .40 Shield. That's what I carry. The stack-and-a-half gives you the same round count in .40 as 9mm's the same size. The recoil is much les than you would think. I have a Ruger LC9 that is much worse (and it's a piece of shit). Just went to the LGS on my lunch and finger fucked a M&P Shield. I liked it. I may end up going that route.  
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Posted: 9/15/2014 7:19:34 PM EDT
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Kahr CM9 is a great gun for under $400 if you shop around. And Kahr CW380 FWIW I love my PM9 |
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Posted: 9/15/2014 8:10:29 PM EDT
[#19]
XDS...
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Posted: 9/15/2014 8:22:08 PM EDT
[#20]
Get both: Kahr CM9 in 9mm and Kahr CW380 in .380.
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Posted: 9/16/2014 10:58:14 AM EDT
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For 'micro' size pistols, I like (and have) LCP and CM9's.
{edit - copied from the 'favorite subcompact 9mm' thread}: 
This was part of my decision-making process when looking for a micro-replacement for the G26's I'd used for years. (That's why the G26 was in a different color - they'd been my 'small' 9mm's for years and so it was my baseline for comparison.) The G42 comparisons were added after the fact, whenever it was released some time back. This was in excel, and the numbers in red were my completely subjective breakpoints for various dimensions on the 9mm models. Less than 5.5" in length, less than 1" in width, 4" or less in height, and under 1LB in weight - those were the settings. (My formula apparently wasn't functional throughout the whole thing though; the Kimber Solo's height should have been highlighted in red, but wasn't.) The CM9 and PM9 were the only ones that had all dimensions (and weight) at or below those admittedly-subjective parameters. Looks like it was set up intentionally skewed to favor the Kahr, but it wasn't. I'd never owned a Kahr before looking at these numbers grouped together like this, but based on the numbers I bought a CM9. I liked it so well that a couple months later, I bought another CM9, and when Christmas rolled around last year, I bought one of my sons a CM9 to replace his makarov ccw pistol. I'd really been leaning toward the Kimber solo initially, but being more than a quarter-inch thicker (and MUCH more expensive at the time) made it much less attractive to me personally as a pocket-pistol option. |
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Posted: 9/16/2014 11:58:57 AM EDT
[#22]
I bought a S&W Shield awhile back & love that little thing.
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Posted: 9/16/2014 4:01:56 PM EDT
[#23]
recoil, size and weight were my considerations.
p238 was what I got. little bigger than the lcp. way reduced recoil. weight is around 17 oz as well. got mine with laser and night sights for 499. |
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Posted: 9/16/2014 5:38:13 PM EDT
[#24]
Sig P232 gets my vote for a .380
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Posted: 9/16/2014 6:58:07 PM EDT
[#25]
Full Disclosure - I'm a Glock guy. I bought a M&P Shield a few months back. It is a fantastic little gun. Until Glock makes a single stack 9mm, it is the Shield for me.
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Posted: 9/16/2014 7:10:53 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Sig p938. Best concealed carry I've ever had. And if you look hard enough you can get it fir 5-550$. Get the extended mag, some ammo and a holster. You met the budget. This. I've tried a bunch, and the P938 is here to stay. |
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Posted: 9/17/2014 8:05:01 AM EDT
[#27]
I inherited a S&W Bodyguard, and really like it.
Very small and thin. Accurate and reliable. Handy built in laser. Nice set up. |
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Posted: 9/17/2014 8:18:33 AM EDT
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Quoted:
I'm looking to get a single stack 9mm or .380 small pistol for CCW. So far I have looked at the G42, LC9, S&W Body Guard, and LCP. I'd like the option to add night sights, but it is not a requirement. My budget is $600 max. Am I missing anything? Options from those who own them currently or have owned them? Glock 42 is the best small pistol I have ever owned or shot. Real sights, good trigger, slide lock. Mags that drop free and accurate as hell. Plus the price is right. For 600 bucks you can get the gun, a couple of spare mags a holster and some ammo. |
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Posted: 9/17/2014 9:45:56 AM EDT
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Sig 938 gets my vote, a great shooting pistol. The only down side is it's all metal so if you're pocket carrying its a little heavier than some. But this adds to the shootability of the gun, recoil isn't as bad as the lighter weight small pistols.
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Posted: 9/17/2014 10:07:17 AM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Full Disclosure - I'm a Glock guy. I bought a M&P Shield a few months back. It is a fantastic little gun. Until Glock makes a single stack 9mm, it is the Shield for me. That's good to know. I'm a Glock guy also, so I am really looking into the shield.
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Posted: 9/17/2014 10:37:05 AM EDT
[#31]
I'm a Glock guy - and i love my 9mm Shield.
I don't use the safety so for me it operates and feels basically same as the Glock - no issues with any ammo i've fed it, decent enough trigger. Think its the 9 Glock should be making. |
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Posted: 9/17/2014 3:11:03 PM EDT
[#32]
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Full Disclosure - I'm a Glock guy. I bought a M&P Shield a few months back. It is a fantastic little gun. Until Glock makes a single stack 9mm, it is the Shield for me. It shouldn't weigh as much as a G26.... |
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Posted: 9/17/2014 3:11:18 PM EDT
[#33]
I gotta go with my 3913.
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Posted: 9/17/2014 5:14:37 PM EDT
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I gotta go with my 3913. I have one I wear every day. But it's not a small pistol even if it does carry better than any Glock I've tried. |
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Posted: 9/17/2014 6:57:10 PM EDT
[#35]
Here you go, OP. Maybe this will help.
.40XD Subcompact - PM9 .40 M&P Shield - LC9 
XD - Shield - PM9 - LC9 
LC9 - PM9 - Shield - XD 
ETA: Hogue grip thing on PM9, and LC9 |
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Posted: 9/17/2014 7:14:23 PM EDT
[#36]
The PM9 is my wife's EDC, and a fine pistol. (She is fine, too, but no pics) The only negative thing I can say about it is that the mags are made out of very thin metal, and the ears are very flimsy. The spring pressure splays the ears out, and it's very easy for the top round to pop out of a spare mag. I've even cut my thumb loading one. Also, a member here posted a pic of more than one with the weld down the back of the mag split. I've not seen that.
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Posted: 9/17/2014 8:03:38 PM EDT
[#37]
S&W Shield
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Posted: 9/17/2014 8:07:00 PM EDT
[#38]
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I'm a Glock guy - and i love my 9mm Shield. I don't use the safety so for me it operates and feels basically same as the Glock - no issues with any ammo i've fed it, decent enough trigger. Think its the 9 Glock should be making. Agree. I got a Shield without the stupid manual safety. It is a nice shooting little pistol. Very thin and concealable. I added Meprolight NS and called it a day. |
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Posted: 9/17/2014 9:44:23 PM EDT
[#39]
If you don't mind not being able to pocket carry, the non-safety Shield is great (though I consider the Apex kit AND trigger to be necessary). I just found I had to dress around the gun because it was kinda big and heavy (unlike all those folks who carry full size or g34s 24/7, I can only carry a gun if I don't really notice it's there).
My pick, having owned and carried every gun I saw mentioned in this thread (except the Springfield and Bodyguard) is the G42 (with a magguts +1 in the carry mag, and a +2 extended mag as a backup). Then carry a G19 or something with 9mm or bigger (and 15+ capacity) on the rare occasions you are going into a risky environment. If SA only, carrying cocked and locked, doesn't bug you, the 938 is fine (but a 2nd mag is like $40 on top of a $600 gun--I'd want the +1 mag). I was raised on glocks, so hitting a safety just isn't natural to me. |
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Posted: 9/18/2014 1:10:35 PM EDT
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Walther PPS
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Posted: 9/18/2014 1:15:11 PM EDT
[#41]
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I'm a fan of kahr pistols. The cw9 is what I own I like it a lot. The cm9 is the smaller pocket version. I paid 350 for mine. I got my wife a CW9 she loves it... I like the P7M8 also.. |
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Posted: 9/18/2014 1:17:08 PM EDT
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I like my Shield.
My wife has a Sig 938. Comes with nightsights and we got it for $630. It's really easy to shoot well, and smaller than my Shield, though not by much. I would carry it. |
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Posted: 9/22/2014 2:51:23 AM EDT
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I have owned the P3AT and and BG380, and handled the Ruger 380, I would take the SIG 238 over any one of them any day, its simply a better pistol. However had the 938 been around when I got my 238, it would have won I think. Also I am a HUGE fan of thumb safeties and single action, my first firearm period was a 1911, so that style does resonate with me. I will say the BG380 was a great pistol, I just found the 238 to shoot better for me, and it felt better in my hand. Of the pistols that have the "P3AT style" operating system, the BG380 is the better pistol by far.
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Posted: 9/22/2014 6:50:00 PM EDT
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Walther PPS +1 Buds has them for around $520. Fantastic gun. reliable, surprisingly accurate, choice of 6/7/8 round mags. Narrow (0.9"). Did I mention surprisingly accurate? |
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Posted: 9/23/2014 8:54:36 AM EDT
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I just bought a Glock 42 last night. Did a lot of study, watched a good bit of uTube, etc.
Handguns are personal, it all boiled down to this. I already own a G26 as my primary carry piece, but I wanted something for pocket carry in the summertime. The G42 and G26 are similar in important ways: 1) same sights 2) same trigger 3) same controls, slide stop, mag release, etc. 4) same take down 5) same caliber (.355 dia. bullet), although granted, less powerful cartridge 6) very similar overall feel even though the G42 is much slimmer than the G26 7) I can use the same grip if I want to use two hands with the G42 This means that everything important stays the same in terms of practice and training. The only variable is the location of the pistol on my person. And I haven't been that impressed with the competition that I have had the opportunity to try. I tested out a Kahr .380 a friend offered me at the firing range....it stove piped on the second shot.  And my Beretta Tomcat is useless with it's shitty aluminum frame (that cracks from the stress of shooting if I shoot it!!....second replacement from Beretta).
And my G26 has over two thousand rounds through it and it has never malfunctioned, so I have confidence in Glock (until proven otherwise). |
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Posted: 9/25/2014 8:39:03 PM EDT
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Full Disclosure - I'm a Glock guy. I bought a M&P Shield a few months back. It is a fantastic little gun. Until Glock makes a single stack 9mm, it is the Shield for me. This for me, too. I own a G19 for range & house (and zombies) and a G42 for jogging, but the Shield is my every day carry. I got one without the manual safety so the manual of arms would be more consistent with the Glock. It is a very accurate pistol for its size. |
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Posted: 9/25/2014 8:55:00 PM EDT
[#47]
I have some interest in this discussion
Currently rocking a Walther PPS and very happy with it but options aren't a bad thing. |
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Posted: 9/25/2014 9:55:37 PM EDT
[#48]
xds. never thought i would buy one until i picked up a .45 the other night.
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Posted: 9/27/2014 9:54:33 PM EDT
[#49]
Sig 938
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Posted: 9/28/2014 11:16:59 PM EDT
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I'm looking to get a single stack 9mm or .380 small pistol for CCW. So far I have looked at the G42, LC9, S&W Body Guard, and LCP. I'd like the option to add night sights, but it is not a requirement. My budget is $600 max. Am I missing anything? Options from those who own them currently or have owned them? I like my Sig P290RS 
The image seems to have been shrunk. If someone wants the excel file, I will be happy to send it. Send me a PM with an email I can send it to. |
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