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Posted: 2/18/2014 5:54:13 PM EDT
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No. Same rules for everyone else.
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Posted: 2/18/2014 5:54:42 PM EDT
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I don't think I or anyone else should have to ask .gov's permission to exercise an inalienable right.
Boy Scouts and what one achieves in the Boy scouts should not have any bearing on the 2A. |
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Posted: 2/18/2014 6:27:57 PM EDT
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Why? What makes them so special? Had a douche bag with eagle scout plates road rage cut me off on the highway.
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Posted: 2/18/2014 7:00:19 PM EDT
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Thats the stupidest thing iv ever heard. I have met one eagle scout that i would even trust with a weapon. Boy scouts are not what they used to be, hate to break it to you |
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Posted: 2/18/2014 7:04:06 PM EDT
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So joining an private organization entitles you to more rights?
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Posted: 2/18/2014 7:08:45 PM EDT
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One thing you learn in scouts is firearm safety.. That does not mean every Eagle Scout would be carrying just the ones that chose to do so.. A lot of the military personnel come from the boy scouts also.
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Posted: 2/18/2014 7:14:29 PM EDT
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I believe that Eagle Scouts should be able to carry at the age of 18 after the have graduated high school but still should have to pass a background check and the normal stuff to get a carry permit... What's yalls opinion? 
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Posted: 2/18/2014 7:21:05 PM EDT
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Why? What makes them so special? Had a douche bag with eagle scout plates road rage cut me off on the highway. So true Heck ive had eagle scouts that couldn't light a fire if their life depended on it. Ironically having wilderness survival on their sash |
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Posted: 2/18/2014 7:29:09 PM EDT
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One thing you learn in scouts is firearm safety.. That does not mean every Eagle Scout would be carrying just the ones that chose to do so.. A lot of the military personnel come from the boy scouts also. You don't learn firearms safety, they teach you firearms safety. You learn through repetition. |
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Posted: 2/18/2014 7:30:48 PM EDT
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I don't think I or anyone else should have to ask .gov's permission to exercise an inalienable right. Boy Scouts and what one achieves in the Boy scouts should not have any bearing on the 2A. I will agree with this. What exactly does Eagle Scout training mean in relation to being able to carry? Not a fucking thing. I will also add there are far greater injustices in this country than an Eagle Scout having to wait 3 years to get a pistol or ccw. |
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Posted: 2/18/2014 7:32:08 PM EDT
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One thing you learn in scouts is firearm safety.. That does not mean every Eagle Scout would be carrying just the ones that chose to do so.. A lot of the military personnel come from the boy scouts also. Ummm fail. Unless scouts have made rifle or shotgun merit badge a requirement for Eagle since I got mine over 30 years ago. ETA: While some boy scouts go on to the military, a lot more don't. Plus, you seem to be shifting requirements, from eagle to just boy scouts. Here is a suggestion, develop a theory. Present it. When people question it, deal with the questions don't throw more inane unrelated or antecdotal information at them. It hurts your credibility and makes people question your ability to think shit through.. |
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Posted: 2/18/2014 7:48:51 PM EDT
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All free people should be able to keep and bear arms in defense of themselves, their families, and their communities>>> Eagle Scouts are free people>>> Eagle Scouts should be able to keep and bear arms in defense of themselves, their families, and their communities.
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Posted: 2/18/2014 7:49:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't think I or anyone else should have to ask .gov's permission to exercise an inalienable right. Boy Scouts and what one achieves in the Boy scouts should not have any bearing on the 2A. |
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Posted: 2/18/2014 7:52:26 PM EDT
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I was a Scout. Never made it to Eagle as other things had my interest at the time.
In the last couple of years, I've met a few Eagles and Eagle candidates. I'm amazed at the number who were dragged through their project by mommy (or occasionally daddy). Kids that couldn't find their ass with both hands and a flashlight, but had helicopter parents pushing them every step of the way. Do they justify any special preference in carrying? Not in my mind. |
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Posted: 2/19/2014 3:53:06 AM EDT
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As an Eagle Scout, I don't agree. Yes, becoming an Eagle is very hard and you do learn a lot of responsibility along the way but I would still keep the laws the same. I was lucky here in Indiana, I got my lifetime permit at 18 and was able to carry right after I became Eagle but there are some kids that get their Eagle rank well before 17 or 16 years old and even though becoming an Eagle Scout has taught responsibility even I think 16 or younger is too young to carry in public, hell, I thought 18 was too young to be able to carry but I didn't complain when I got my permit.
I would agree with a discount on the permit fee for Eagle Scouts though 
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Posted: 2/19/2014 4:29:30 AM EDT
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No. Your special little sunflower may have some basic safety training, but he's still 18, with an 18 year old head on his shoulders, regardless of his scout background. We don't let mil. carry off base (or even on base in most cases) under 21, and they have a lot more firearms training that your eagle scout.
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Posted: 2/19/2014 4:35:35 AM EDT
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I believe that Eagle Scouts should be able to carry at the age of 18 after the have graduated high school but still should have to pass a background check and the normal stuff to get a carry permit... What's yalls opinion? lol no. Rifle shooting, pistol shooting, archery, isn't required for Eagle Scout. Why the hell would they get special priveleges? Besides, most 18 y/o's I know are complete idiots. Including the ones I work with. And yes, I'm an Eagle. 1995. |
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Posted: 2/19/2014 4:40:47 AM EDT
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Besides, most 18 y/o's I know are complete idiots. Including the ones I work with. . Yep. Plus many of the fresh eagle scouts I know are complete dicks. 
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Posted: 2/19/2014 4:42:36 AM EDT
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I'm guessing troll thread.
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Posted: 2/19/2014 4:44:12 AM EDT
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As an Eagle Scout, I don't agree. Yes, becoming an Eagle is very hard and you do learn a lot of responsibility along the way but I would still keep the laws the same. I was lucky here in Indiana, I got my lifetime permit at 18 and was able to carry right after I became Eagle but there are some kids that get their Eagle rank well before 17 or 16 years old and even though becoming an Eagle Scout has taught responsibility even I think 16 or younger is too young to carry in public, hell, I thought 18 was too young to be able to carry but I didn't complain when I got my permit. I would agree with a discount on the permit fee for Eagle Scouts though
Silly idea. |
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Posted: 2/19/2014 4:46:02 AM EDT
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Silly idea. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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As an Eagle Scout, I don't agree. Yes, becoming an Eagle is very hard and you do learn a lot of responsibility along the way but I would still keep the laws the same. I was lucky here in Indiana, I got my lifetime permit at 18 and was able to carry right after I became Eagle but there are some kids that get their Eagle rank well before 17 or 16 years old and even though becoming an Eagle Scout has taught responsibility even I think 16 or younger is too young to carry in public, hell, I thought 18 was too young to be able to carry but I didn't complain when I got my permit. I would agree with a discount on the permit fee for Eagle Scouts though
Silly idea. You didn't know helping little old ladies across the street is now equivalent to going to work where kevlar is part of your attire? |
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Posted: 2/19/2014 5:14:48 AM EDT
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I'm guessing troll thread. My vote too. |
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Posted: 2/19/2014 5:18:33 AM EDT
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One thing you learn in scouts is firearm safety.. That does not mean every Eagle Scout would be carrying just the ones that chose to do so.. A lot of the military personnel come from the boy scouts also. I have no formal training, yet I believe I am safer then most. Why should they be special? Hell the first thing my idiot roommate (who is an "eagle") did when I showed him my AR was put his finger on the trigger and break all the rules. |
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Posted: 2/19/2014 5:19:44 AM EDT
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You didn't know helping little old ladies across the street is now equivalent to going to work where kevlar is part of your attire? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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As an Eagle Scout, I don't agree. Yes, becoming an Eagle is very hard and you do learn a lot of responsibility along the way but I would still keep the laws the same. I was lucky here in Indiana, I got my lifetime permit at 18 and was able to carry right after I became Eagle but there are some kids that get their Eagle rank well before 17 or 16 years old and even though becoming an Eagle Scout has taught responsibility even I think 16 or younger is too young to carry in public, hell, I thought 18 was too young to be able to carry but I didn't complain when I got my permit. I would agree with a discount on the permit fee for Eagle Scouts though
Silly idea. You didn't know helping little old ladies across the street is now equivalent to going to work where kevlar is part of your attire? I think eagle scouts should receive military benefits and get discounts everywhere. True story 
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Posted: 2/19/2014 5:55:31 AM EDT
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No. Same rules for everyone else. Exactly. There are no "special classes" "ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL, THAT THEY ARE ENDOWED BY THEIR CREATOR WITH CERTAIN UNALIENABLE RIGHTS." |
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Posted: 2/19/2014 5:57:15 AM EDT
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how about just no permits and no minimum age
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Posted: 2/19/2014 6:06:11 AM EDT
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An elite paramilitary organization like the Eagle Scouts doesn't fuck around with permits.
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Posted: 2/19/2014 6:07:32 AM EDT
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An elite paramilitary organization like the Eagle Scouts doesn't fuck around with permits. Domestic terrorists in training. 
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Posted: 2/19/2014 6:14:51 AM EDT
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No. Some of my fellow Eagle Scouts never did anything that would make them stand out above anyone else other than spending a long time in Scouts.
Great first post BTW.
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Posted: 2/19/2014 9:10:55 AM EDT
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If Eagle Scouts carry then military members should also be able to carry at 18.
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Posted: 2/19/2014 9:39:58 AM EDT
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I believe that Eagle Scouts should be able to carry at the age of 18 after the have graduated high school but still should have to pass a background check and the normal stuff to get a carry permit... What's yalls opinion? How old are you OP? You have brought no compelling argument to the table for why you believe this and have not responded to posts that question your reasoning. I don't think just because someone earned a bunch of merit badges and went camping every other weekend for years, entitles one to supersede the age requirement over others. The scouts firearm "training" you speak of is laughable and it's depth and consistency varies by Troop and Merit Badge Counselor. The Eagle Scouts I knew at 18 where no more put together then others who played sports and chased tail. |
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Posted: 2/19/2014 9:43:43 AM EDT
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How old are you OP? You have brought no compelling argument to the table for why you believe this and have not responded to posts that question your reasoning. I don't think just because someone earned a bunch of merit badges and went camping every other weekend for years, entitles one to supersede the age requirement over others. The scouts firearm "training" you speak of is laughable and it's depth and consistency varies by Troop and Merit Badge Counselor. The Eagle Scouts I knew at 18 where no more put together then others who played sports and chased tail. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I believe that Eagle Scouts should be able to carry at the age of 18 after the have graduated high school but still should have to pass a background check and the normal stuff to get a carry permit... What's yalls opinion? How old are you OP? You have brought no compelling argument to the table for why you believe this and have not responded to posts that question your reasoning. I don't think just because someone earned a bunch of merit badges and went camping every other weekend for years, entitles one to supersede the age requirement over others. The scouts firearm "training" you speak of is laughable and it's depth and consistency varies by Troop and Merit Badge Counselor. The Eagle Scouts I knew at 18 where no more put together then others who played sports and chased tail. Not that it is related, but that isn't even a requirement. Scouting is so watered down most wouldn't recognize it if it weren't for the uniform. I think we can all agree this thread is dildos. -all4freedom, Eagle Scout |
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Posted: 2/19/2014 9:43:54 AM EDT
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Hey OP while you are at it, how about lowering the drinking age for Eagle Scouts to 18?
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Posted: 2/19/2014 10:13:15 AM EDT
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Most of the Eagle scouts that I went to school with were morons who partied and smoked pot. Constitutional rights should not be special privilege to specific groups, subject to background checks, or graduation dates. If you can join the military and vote at 18, why shouldn't you be able own, purchase, or carry a handgun? Got my first handgun at 17. Got my license to carry at 19. Haven't had any problems so far.
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Posted: 2/19/2014 6:05:33 PM EDT
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I believe that Eagle Scouts should be able to carry at the age of 18 after the have graduated high school but still should have to pass a background check and the normal stuff to get a carry permit... What's yalls opinion? I'm an eagle scout and I disagree with you. Rights for EVERYONE. |
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Posted: 2/19/2014 6:40:21 PM EDT
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As an Eagle Scout myself, I will say that is a very bad idea.
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Posted: 2/19/2014 8:33:46 PM EDT
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Thats the stupidest thing iv ever heard. I have met one eagle scout that i would even trust with a weapon. Boy scouts are not what they used to be, hate to break it to you I was a scout for a few years. Never really cared for getting ranks I just liked hiking, camping and shooting. Plenty of scouts get eagle because their parents have lots of time and money (mostly money). Not saying all eagle scouts are bad but I know plenty of eagle scouts who smoked and drank at parties like anybody else. The quality of people in this country has steadily gotten lower and lower so that now even what were once honorable organizations are just hollow shells of what they once were. Same thing can be said for the army. I can't even begin to describe how much ridiculous BS i have seen since I enlisted. And this is an intel unit. Youd think that with everybody having some kind of security clearance they would have rooted out the garbage. Not so much lol |
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Posted: 2/19/2014 8:39:53 PM EDT
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Eagle class of 1988.
I say sorry OP, no special privileges. |
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Posted: 2/19/2014 9:42:10 PM EDT
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18 for everyone. Ypu can go to war, vote, buy a long gun, should be able to carry and in the states that dont allow it yet buy a handgun
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Posted: 2/20/2014 5:45:43 AM EDT
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No. Same rules for everyone else. 1st reply gets it right. |
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Posted: 2/20/2014 11:49:06 AM EDT
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Police, both active and retired seem to be a Special Class when it comes to concealed carry.
Look at how they are whining and threating suite of the NFL because it made a no gun rule and treated them the same as everyone else
No kiddies we ARE all the same. |
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Posted: 2/20/2014 11:53:03 AM EDT
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Police, both active and retired seem to be a Special Class when it comes to concealed carry. Look at how they are whining and threating suite of the NFL because it made a no gun rule and treated them the same as everyone else
No kiddies we ARE all the same. 
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Posted: 2/21/2014 6:10:27 AM EDT
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If Eagle Scouts carry then military members should also be able to carry at 18. In some states, you can carry at 18 if you are in the military. |
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Posted: 2/21/2014 11:49:47 AM EDT
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No
Becoming an Eagle Scout is hard work, but it doesn't mean you should be able to carry before anyone else. I got my Eagle when I was 15, and I know several other eagle scouts and some of them should not be allowed to touch a gun. |
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Posted: 2/21/2014 4:45:45 PM EDT
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I don't think I or anyone else should have to ask .gov's permission to exercise an inalienable right. Boy Scouts and what one achieves in the Boy scouts should not have any bearing on the 2A. |
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Posted: 2/23/2014 7:12:46 PM EDT
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No. Same rules for everyone else. +1 WTF makes an Eagle Scout so special? Should they also get away with DWIs like police? |
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Posted: 2/23/2014 8:09:32 PM EDT
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13'ing like a boss in the tech forums and with a first post in 2014 no less.
Impressive. |
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Posted: 2/25/2014 4:28:06 PM EDT
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18 for everyone. Ypu can go to war, vote, buy a long gun, should be able to carry and in the states that dont allow it yet buy a handgun I agree here, but NO to Eagle Scouts getting special privelages. Handguns are not taught in the Rifle or Shotgun Merit Badge. The min age to buy a handgun from a FFL (GCA68) needs to be changed. Believe there is a case being considered by the USSC this week on the issue. CD Eagle Scout 1983, signed by President Reagan |
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Posted: 2/28/2014 4:03:19 PM EDT
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I do not agree, but I would say those who are old enough to serve our country should be a allowed to carry and own handguns in America.
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Posted: 3/1/2014 7:33:10 AM EDT
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I do not agree, but I would say those who are old enough to serve our country should be a allowed to carry and own handguns in America. Good Point! When I was 18, I was sitting on a mountain in Korea with an Automatic Rifle in my lap... But still 3 years too young to buy a beer or carry a concealed pistol in PA
Ah the wisdom of lawmakers... |
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