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Posted: 2/6/2014 2:56:39 PM EDT
Looking for a new holster. Any thoughts on those two?
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Old Faithful. Cheaper, just as comfortable, more adjustable. Assemble it yourself.
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Thanks for the info. I do like the fact that you can tighten the screws down as well as interchange.
Is the Old Faithful that much bigger then Crossbreed? |
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I had tried a Cross Breed first..it's ok, then tried an Old Faithful which I think is better quality and prefer as the full slide is covered.
I just got an M-tac last week and and so far...IMHO it's the best of the three |
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Crossbreed is not the best holster in the world. Not familiar with Old Faithful yet but I do know that I stopped carrying my crossbreeds as fast as I could replace them.
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Old Faithful and Alien Gear are both in Ft Smith, AR. Is that a coincidence? They look very, very similar. Is there a story here? Anyone know any details?
I'm gonna buy one of them! |
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Doesn't help much, but after owning and carrying a Crossbreed Supertuck w/horse hide for the last 3 years with my 5" Steel 1911's, I ordered an Alien Gear for my new G21. I just got confirmation that it shipped yesterday so I don't have it yet.
I didn't go with another Crossbreed because their kydex is thin (looks like the .06" stuff that everyone making kydex holsters tells you to avoid, case in point, mine has 2 cracks in it), and they are expensive for what you get (mine was around $90). The Alien Gear was $36 and change shipped. Hell, I'd have $15 into materials trying to fab up the same thing. They use .093 Kydex that's about as thick as you'd want for a holster and they use a little bit thicker leather so that should keep any pressure points on the gun from poking you too. What the heck, I figure I've blown $35 on bad pizza in a week before and all I had when I was done with it was a bad case of diarrhea. With the specs and reviews of AG, worst I can do is try it, then get my money back if I don't like it. I'm probaby going to make my own from here on out anyways, so this will be a good stop gap until my leather and some more Kydex come in. Hope this helps. Mainly it's just why I bought an Alien Gear. Hope it actually works as well as the specs indicate it will. |
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Doesn't help much, but after owning and carrying a Crossbreed Supertuck w/horse hide for the last 3 years with my 5" Steel 1911's, I ordered an Alien Gear for my new G21. I just got confirmation that it shipped yesterday so I don't have it yet. I didn't go with another Crossbreed because their kydex is thin (looks like the .06" stuff that everyone making kydex holsters tells you to avoid, case in point, mine has 2 cracks in it), and they are expensive for what you get (mine was around $90). The Alien Gear was $36 and change shipped. Hell, I'd have $15 into materials trying to fab up the same thing. They use .093 Kydex that's about as thick as you'd want for a holster and they use a little bit thicker leather so that should keep any pressure points on the gun from poking you too. What the heck, I figure I've blown $35 on bad pizza in a week before and all I had when I was done with it was a bad case of diarrhea. With the specs and reviews of AG, worst I can do is try it, then get my money back if I don't like it. I'm probaby going to make my own from here on out anyways, so this will be a good stop gap until my leather and some more Kydex come in. Hope this helps. Mainly it's just why I bought an Alien Gear. Hope it actually works as well as the specs indicate it will. View Quote Thanks. Keep me posted. Can you put some photos here as well once you get it in? What are you going to carry with it? |
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I've got an Old Faithful and it is great. Had a Crossbreed and hated it.
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Yep. I'm going to be carrying a Gen4 Glock G21. Not exactly as heavy as my 1911's, but it's about as heavy as you're going to get with a plastic pistol
My current IWB holster is my home made kydex holster for the G21 with a TLR-1s attached. It's slightly bulky, but not terrible. After the Alien Gear comes in, I'm going to try to assemble a clone of it, except it will be with the light attached. |
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Yep. I'm going to be carrying a Gen4 Glock G21. Not exactly as heavy as my 1911's, but it's about as heavy as you're going to get with a plastic pistol My current IWB holster is my home made kydex holster for the G21 with a TLR-1s attached. It's slightly bulky, but not terrible. After the Alien Gear comes in, I'm going to try to assemble a clone of it, except it will be with the light attached. View Quote no its not. google what the beretta PX4s weigh. G20 is heavier than the 21 too. |
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Quoted: no its not. google what the beretta PX4s weigh. G20 is heavier than the 21 too. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Yep. I'm going to be carrying a Gen4 Glock G21. Not exactly as heavy as my 1911's, but it's about as heavy as you're going to get with a plastic pistol My current IWB holster is my home made kydex holster for the G21 with a TLR-1s attached. It's slightly bulky, but not terrible. After the Alien Gear comes in, I'm going to try to assemble a clone of it, except it will be with the light attached. no its not. google what the beretta PX4s weigh. G20 is heavier than the 21 too. I was talking round-abouts, not absolutes |
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OP, now that you've included Alien Gear, I can comment on those as well.
After hearing all the good reviews about them, I ordered one for Son #1's birthday back in January; he owns my old RIA Officer's 1911. It came in last week, and before I gave it to him (he works in SC now) I was able to examine it and compare it to my Old Faithful hyrid. They are almost exact duplicates of each other. The kydex is the same thickness and so is the leather. They use the same screws, washers, rubber spacers, and the metal belt clips appear identical, too. Other than the great price on the Alien Gear holster (which I cannot see lasting for long) the different rollmark, the size of the leather (mine is for a G34 and his is for a 3.5" 1911) they could have been made in the same facility. However, Old Faithful has a greater selection of holster shapes. It's a no-brainer to me....get the Alien Gear holster, UNLESS you have a pistol they don't make shells for. |
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I like my OF holster, but after using an mtac holster, I have decided that the OF clips kind of suck. They definitely do NOT move though, so they have that going for them, but the leather and kydex is great.
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Came in today. I've been wearing it for a couple hours and it's as comfortable as you'd expect. Retention is pretty good too which is usually not expected of this type of holster. Very nice construction. Feels solid. Only downsides? The leather isn't picture perfect. There's some scratches and marks in the leather that were there before tanning. They're not bad, but they're there. The Kydex isn't without a couple little divots and small flaws too. Nothing big. Overall, I'm still pleased. There isn't really anything in this price range that competes, so a few small imperfections are perfectly acceptable. <a href="http://s31.photobucket.com/user/WIZZO499/media/aliengearg21holster_zpse1b801e4.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c352/WIZZO499/aliengearg21holster_zpse1b801e4.jpg</a> <a href="http://s31.photobucket.com/user/WIZZO499/media/alieangear2_zps9d458341.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c352/WIZZO499/alieangear2_zps9d458341.jpg</a> And here's a little lip of leather that I'm going to trim off. I want the web of my hand to hit the backstrap of the G21, not leather. Should be a simple 2 minute job with an exacto knife. <a href="http://s31.photobucket.com/user/WIZZO499/media/aliengear3_zps42d6a563.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c352/WIZZO499/aliengear3_zps42d6a563.jpg</a> View Quote Thanks for sharing the great info with the photos. I may order one this week for my 229. After you trim post another photo. I would like to see it. Thanks |
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Alien Gear holster for the win. I carry a Glock 22 all the time. It is the most comfortable holster I have ever worn. And it has the best price I have ever seen. I also have one for my 1911. Great holster.
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Got an email from Alien saying 2 to 4 weeks on my order from 1-27-14
but no hurry since IL will not see any CCL till March or April. Great price by the way on this holster and hopefully the quality will be there!!! |
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Of those I only own the Alien. It is top notch. At the price they sell for; why not buy it. I got one for a G30. I haven't used it much but it looks very nice.
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Lovin' my Aliengear holster. Comfortably carry a HK45C all day, not a super light gun.
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For those posters who have tried the Alien Gear or Old Faithful and like those over the Crossbreed, why do you prefer them?
In other words, what did you dislike about the Crossbreed that was improved with either the AG or OF? Thanks, trying to make up my mind. ETA: forgot to ask how these perform with a medium frame/medium heavy auto such as the SIG Sp2022? |
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I have been wearing an Alien Gear holster every day for about 5 months and love it. Some of them are a bit rough as far as finishing work goes but hey its $30 and you wear it on the inside of your pants.
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I have Crossbreed Supertuck and an Aliengear.
The Aliengear is as good or better than the Crossbreed, and has much better delivery time, and its customer service has been very responsive to me when I had a question. At the time I bought my Aliengear, I wasn't sure if I wanted to keep my XDs-9 or my Shield-9, so I bought an extra shell for one of them, planning to switch the Kydex if I decided to get rid of one of the guns. So far, it's looking like I need to buy the leather for the extra shell, as I like both my pocket 9mm guns too much to sell one of them. I need to look into the Old Faithful holsters -- you guys are convincing that they work well too. Why pay more and wait longer for the Crossbreed - there are few if any actual real-world benefits IMO. |
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For anybody that reads this thread trying to decide which hybrid holster to buy, another option would be Ozarks holsters. After almost pulling the trigger on an alien gear holster, i did some more research and found that many people did not like how thick the alien gear was and it was not as easy to conceal as a cross breed or mtac.
Ozarks holsters are supposed to be a bit thinner (both leather and kydex i believe) but still hold up to use excellently from what i have read. Another up side to the Ozarks is that they use horsehide standard, which all of the other companies i have seen charge more for over cowhide. I ordered an Ozarks for my HK P30 on monday and it should be here sometime next week. HERE'S a link to the holster i ordered No affiliation with the company, just trying to give some other options for those trying to decide. I'm sure you couldn't go wrong with any of the 4 |
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I must be the only guy on the planet that didn't like the Old Faithful holster. I have one for the USP compact, but if I tightened the screws to any degree, it caused the back of the holster to uncomfortably bulge out when the pistol was in it. The leather was nice, the kydex was nice, and the hardware was nice too. I really, really wanted to like it better than Crossbreed or the Galco King Tuk, but I just couldn't. Old Faithful's customer service was impeccable, they even sent out new belt clips to replace a batch that extended out a bit more than normal. I didn't send it back for a refund via their extremely generous return policy because I thought that the company did everything in their power to ensure you were happy with the holster, and I felt bad to return it after they did all that to try to make me happy. So, even though it didn't work out perfect for me, I highly recommend the Old Faithful holster, because if 1 person says it isn't comfortable (me) and 100 people say it is (virtually everyone else) great, you should probably play the odds on that one.
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I must be the only guy on the planet that didn't like the Old Faithful holster. I have one for the USP compact, but if I tightened the screws to any degree, it caused the back of the holster to uncomfortably bulge out when the pistol was in it. The leather was nice, the kydex was nice, and the hardware was nice too. I really, really wanted to like it better than Crossbreed or the Galco King Tuk, but I just couldn't. Old Faithful's customer service was impeccable, they even sent out new belt clips to replace a batch that extended out a bit more than normal. I didn't send it back for a refund via their extremely generous return policy because I thought that the company did everything in their power to ensure you were happy with the holster, and I felt bad to return it after they did all that to try to make me happy. So, even though it didn't work out perfect for me, I highly recommend the Old Faithful holster, because if 1 person says it isn't comfortable (me) and 100 people say it is (virtually everyone else) great, you should probably play the odds on that one. View Quote Just curious, did you try adding more material to the rubber spacers between the leather and kydex? All holsters like that really need the body to keep the gun stable anyway, but I think Old Faithful might benefit from another screw next to the trigger guard so you can adjust the retention without squeezing the whole gun in to you. |
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Just curious, did you try adding more material to the rubber spacers between the leather and kydex? All holsters like that really need the body to keep the gun stable anyway, but I think Old Faithful might benefit from another screw next to the trigger guard so you can adjust the retention without squeezing the whole gun in to you. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I must be the only guy on the planet that didn't like the Old Faithful holster. I have one for the USP compact, but if I tightened the screws to any degree, it caused the back of the holster to uncomfortably bulge out when the pistol was in it. The leather was nice, the kydex was nice, and the hardware was nice too. I really, really wanted to like it better than Crossbreed or the Galco King Tuk, but I just couldn't. Old Faithful's customer service was impeccable, they even sent out new belt clips to replace a batch that extended out a bit more than normal. I didn't send it back for a refund via their extremely generous return policy because I thought that the company did everything in their power to ensure you were happy with the holster, and I felt bad to return it after they did all that to try to make me happy. So, even though it didn't work out perfect for me, I highly recommend the Old Faithful holster, because if 1 person says it isn't comfortable (me) and 100 people say it is (virtually everyone else) great, you should probably play the odds on that one. Just curious, did you try adding more material to the rubber spacers between the leather and kydex? All holsters like that really need the body to keep the gun stable anyway, but I think Old Faithful might benefit from another screw next to the trigger guard so you can adjust the retention without squeezing the whole gun in to you. I did, but there was so much give in the spacers it didn't really make a difference. Your idea of an extra screw is a good one, there really isn't a pinch point on the Old Faithful holster like on the Galco or Crossbreed, like a slight indentation on the area formed over the trigger guard. That or a screw right next to the trigger guard area could definitely give it a bit of positive retention. Are you a wizard? |
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Those Alien Gears really look slick, especially for the price. Put an order in for my Shield. Will post back in 3-4 weeks when it comes in if theres interest.
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Came in today. I've been wearing it for a couple hours and it's as comfortable as you'd expect. Retention is pretty good too which is usually not expected of this type of holster. Very nice construction. Feels solid. View Quote Wow! When I saw you were getting it for a glock 21, I was going to warn you NOT TO! they built me one a year ago - IT HAD BACKWARDS CANT! It was totally useless - printed way more than my simple OWB paddle holster. Guess enough folks told them how to redesign so they are ok now. Shame I had to waste my money trying to teach them and end up with a useless holster. |
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Not familiar with Alien, but I think my Old Faithfuls are far superior to my Crossbreed.
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I've had my Alien Gear holster for a couple of weeks now. I went from a straight kydex holster from Eight2Ten to a hybrid. The hybrid I noticed made my boxers ride up...guess it will take some getting used to.
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Alien Gear FTW unless you want colors with your Kydex...
IMO Alien Gear and Old Faithful are the SAME> |
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I've been using an Old Faithful now for about 4 years. I couldn't be happier. It's a perfect fit for both my P226 Tacops and my P220 combat.
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I went with the Alien Gear over the Old Faithful for my 1911 because of the price point and good reviews. 3-4 week shipping though.
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This thread convinced me to buy an Alien Gear holster.
ETA: My only other IWB is a full kydex Pitbull Tactical from 2010 that I use for carry. I'm anxious to see how the "crossbreed style" leather + kydex works out. |
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I just picked up this from Working Dog holsters. Good quality. Very comfy. And the owner has a great mission
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FYI ... Alien gear IWB for g19
Ordered 3/04 Shipped 3/28 Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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FYI ... Alien gear IWB for g19 Ordered 3/04 Shipped 3/28 Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile View Quote Hmmm, I ordered a AG holster and extra shell on 3/8, got the shipment email on 3/24. Should be here today if the post office does it's part. The order email specified 3-4 week wait, was surprised to get the shipping email when I did. |
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