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Posted: 5/3/2012 3:10:11 PM
THE IMAGE ABOVE IS A PAID ADVERTISEMENT I want to help out a very close friend he has just got his permit and owns a lot of guns and is struggling with what to carry. I got him down to theses choices g23 gen 4, g21 gen4, Sig sauer P220 how can I help him decide he shoots all three of theses very well? thanks I carry a sig p220 or a 1911 so I'm not real sure on one of the glocks any input? |
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Posted: 5/3/2012 3:51:00 PM
must be :
––reliable ––user friendly (to him) ––concealble/wearable ––be of a sufficient caliber in this case, he's got all of them (provided they work well for him), i'd go w/ the glock...higher capacity in this case wins out |
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Posted: 5/3/2012 3:51:53 PM
The one that's going to conceal well and is comfortable to carry. I know that sounds vague and it is but in all honesty if the gun isn't comfortable to carry because of weight, or is hard to conceal then he won't carry it. When I first started to carry I carried and HK USPc in .45, I didn't like the bulk of it. Pretty soon I swapped the HK for a Sig 229 in 9mm and I realized that it was heavier than I'd like it to be. Eventually I settled on a Glock 26; it conceals well, is comfortable to wear, and I'm comfortable with its capabilities.
Most people will tell you that getting to your daily carry piece is an evolutionary process and that you'll go thru several gun and/or holsters to get the right combination for you. The best option is to experiment around and be critical of your carry system so you eventually end up getting the right combination of gun/belt/holster/mag carrier etc.... Good luck and have fun. |
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Posted: 5/3/2012 4:30:52 PM
From that list I'd take the G23. Best sized handgun made (IMO, carries like a compact but shootable like a full-size), good capacity, reliable. The G21 is a big 'un. The P220 is a great gun, but I'd take the greater capacity and slightly smaller size of the G23 over it.
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Posted: 5/3/2012 4:40:09 PM
There's no law saying he can't carry more than one type. I've got a Sig P6, Sig P220, and a Dan Wesson VBOB. I plan on CCWing each at different times.
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Posted: 5/3/2012 4:55:12 PM
Yeah, if he honestly doesn't care between the 3, I'd go with the G23 as well. Smallest size and most ammo of the 3 selections.
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Posted: 5/3/2012 4:58:46 PM
All three of his pistols are terrific. It's just a matter of his preference.
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Posted: 5/3/2012 6:31:33 PM
Originally Posted By CA_TX-Cop:
Yeah, if he honestly doesn't care between the 3, I'd go with the G23 as well. Smallest size and most ammo of the 3 selections. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 5/3/2012 9:50:51 PM
[Last Edit: 5/3/2012 9:52:29 PM by garretts1776]
Originally Posted By scorpion12:
There's no law saying he can't carry more than one type. I've got a Sig P6, Sig P220, and a Dan Wesson VBOB. I plan on CCWing each at different times. He probably recognizes that swapping weapons is not the smartest choice for most people. Particularly swapping between a weapon with a thumb safety and one without. I carry a 5" 1911 and love P220s, but I would not swap back and forth between them. Im not makin a jab at you, just saying alot of people choose one weapon or type and stick with it. I would say the P220, OP, but only because I like .45s. If that turns out to be too big for him then try the glock23. And the glock21 is a great gun, but frikin huge to carry IMO, although I hear other Arfcommers talk about carryin them all the time |
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Posted: 5/3/2012 10:36:00 PM
Originally Posted By CA_TX-Cop:
Yeah, if he honestly doesn't care between the 3, I'd go with the G23 as well. Smallest size and most ammo of the 3 selections. Yup. Outside of work I carry a G19 as primary myself, and have toyed with the notion of getting a G23 to replace it simply because the 23 is good to go as a work gun, and I wouldn't have to switch when I get off. (Tried a 27 I got on the cheap for a while, but I really find it too small for me.) |
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Posted: 5/3/2012 10:51:02 PM
One of each... I don't get it what's your question?
Hard to beat the 23. 21 is pretty big. |
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Posted: 5/3/2012 11:20:06 PM
The P220 being thinner will carry easier IMO. It'd be my choice of those listed.
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Posted: 5/4/2012 11:12:12 AM
Change it up?
I swap between 2 pistols right now and may work a revolver in after I make up a holster for it. I like choices myself |
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Posted: 5/4/2012 11:18:04 AM
Originally Posted By CA_TX-Cop:
Yeah, if he honestly doesn't care between the 3, I'd go with the G23 as well. Smallest size and most ammo of the 3 selections. The Glock 23 is the clear choise, though it will be too big for some situations unless he is a very sedentary persons. |
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Posted: 5/4/2012 3:10:01 PM
220
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Posted: 5/5/2012 10:32:13 AM
[Last Edit: 5/5/2012 10:33:43 AM by gunnut284]
I would carry the 23. I have occasionally carried a Glock 21SF or a Sig P226 but most of the time carry a Glock 19. Much easier to conceal and more comfortable.
ETA: I have more than one gun I carry depending on the occasion but the 19 is probably 80% of the time. |
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Posted: 5/6/2012 10:19:40 AM
I would choose 23.
All are good pistols and he cant go wrong assuming he can conceal it. |
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Posted: 5/6/2012 12:12:05 PM
Originally Posted By CA_TX-Cop:
Yeah, if he honestly doesn't care between the 3, I'd go with the G23 as well. Smallest size and most ammo of the 3 selections. And its a Glock |
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Posted: 5/7/2012 3:17:56 AM
In these threads i usually here alot of manufacturer and model number naming, so for this reason i will not actually tell u the handgun i own for ccw.
congrats, your friend has chosen to buy a gun for ccw. that may mean different things to different people depending on your body type/size. i'm . many of the rounds you thought you knew may have nasty surprises waiting for you if you swapped from duty sized weapons to a subcompact. i found that out the hard way. tried to shoot a subcompact 9mm and held it like i used to hold my families 92f and dam near dropped the weapon. Once you have chosen your caliber, the easy part is at hand. since most of firearms manipulation is either natural talent or learned technique, you can pretty much forget about brand names and which one is better than the others. for the most part with a couple of acceptions, the top 4 or 5 handgun manufacturers have roughly the same quality firearms. go to a gun shop and ask to see EVERY handgun that is in your size range and caliber selection. this is important. do not pick until you have held every single gun that fits the criteria. you might even want to go to another store that may have guns the first store did not. what you are looking for is physical compatibility. everyone's hands are different and different guns will fit different peoples hands better or worse. at this point ur not looking for a logo on the side of a slide. your feeling for that perfect grip. granted you may or may not get a "perfect" grip considering your POU (philosophy of use) but chances are you will come pretty close, and with most polymer guns you can ask to feel the gun with different back-straps on. When you find that gun that fits YOUR hand, and is a brand you can live with. try the trigger. actually, try the trigger on every gun you look at (permission given of course). when you find the right combination of trigger and grip for your physiology. that is the gun you need to buy. little things like recoil management, sight management, reloading drills, and target acquisition are all training combined with natural ability, and you will need to train with this gun. but a gun that does not fit in your hand in the first place WILL make that process even harder. however, a gun that fits well in your hand will give you both a confidence boost while training and a leg up on mastering the weapon. |
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Posted: 5/7/2012 5:58:42 PM
He should figure out which one he shoots the best and carry that one. Brand name is irrelevant unless you can get that first shot on target when it counts.
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