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Posted: 4/1/2012 1:58:42 AM
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Originally Posted By Vent625:
Ive been stopped once since I started carrying, the first thing I told the deputy was that I have a permit and have a 40 cal on my hip. He cared less, and was more concerned with license, insurance and registration. Everything was in order, he let me go, no ticket. Is it a law in your area to declare? Why would you volunteer that information? You're making the firearm a focus of interest when it shouldn't be. Aren't you required to inform that you are carrying in Texas? |
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Posted: 4/1/2012 2:12:45 AM
Not anymore.
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Posted: 4/1/2012 2:29:40 AM
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Not anymore. God bless Texas |
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Posted: 4/1/2012 11:45:25 AM
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Originally Posted By Darcy:
I'm about 50/50. If the gun is in the holster in my center console, I don't mind passing it over. If it's on my person, I step out and let them disarm me if they wish. I wont hand it to them from that position though. I could make a stink about how they shouldn't be disarming me, but I'd rather have the cop be comfortable and not have any accidents. Plus, this seems to earn me some good will with the cop, and often times a little leniency. Some cops hand it back as I gave it to them after the stop. Other cops have handed it back stripped with empty mags and a handful of loose rounds(aggravating when you have 17 rnd mag and spares). One cop couldn't figure out how to field strip my Taurus 24/7. One cop had a nice discussion with me about how I liked my LCP(no ticket there). I feel like I get pulled over more than most... Fortunately there aren't too many Napoleons running around my city. WTF would an LEO need to field strip your pistol?? Hell I still dont get why they took all my rds out of my spare mags. Nothing like sitting off the side of 16Th in INDY loading mags back up at night. Who knows what goes through there minds? I'd love to have them try and take all the rounds out of my spare mags, I regularly keep 5 17rnd, 3 15rnd, 2 11rnd, and 2 33rnd mags in my truck loaded. He would need a big baggy. P.S. Last stop I was at did not disarm me, bery proffesional and we chatted, funniest part was when he asked me if I was hunting Zombies LOL |
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Posted: 4/3/2012 11:19:11 AM
Originally Posted By xXNuggettXx:
Originally Posted By Waveform:
Originally Posted By Vent625:
Ive been stopped once since I started carrying, the first thing I told the deputy was that I have a permit and have a 40 cal on my hip. He cared less, and was more concerned with license, insurance and registration. Everything was in order, he let me go, no ticket. Is it a law in your area to declare? Why would you volunteer that information? You're making the firearm a focus of interest when it shouldn't be. Aren't you required to inform that you are carrying in Texas? Originally Posted By Waveform:
Not anymore. Actually, you are still required. What they did recently was remove the penalty for failure to inform. While logic would dictate that it essentially means you arent required because there is no penalty, it is still on the books. YMMV |
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Posted: 4/3/2012 11:23:03 AM
I've been stopped twice while carrying. Ticketed for speeding once. Neither time did the officer ask anything except where the weapon was. Since it was holstered and my hands were on the wheel they just did their thIng and sent me on my way.
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Posted: 4/3/2012 12:47:21 PM
Originally Posted By ex_dsmr:
Originally Posted By xXNuggettXx:
Originally Posted By Waveform:
Originally Posted By Vent625:
Ive been stopped once since I started carrying, the first thing I told the deputy was that I have a permit and have a 40 cal on my hip. He cared less, and was more concerned with license, insurance and registration. Everything was in order, he let me go, no ticket. Is it a law in your area to declare? Why would you volunteer that information? You're making the firearm a focus of interest when it shouldn't be. Aren't you required to inform that you are carrying in Texas? Originally Posted By Waveform:
Not anymore. Actually, you are still required. What they did recently was remove the penalty for failure to inform. While logic would dictate that it essentially means you arent required because there is no penalty, it is still on the books. YMMV As much as I think some of NC's laws are fubar, that's just messed up. 
It's against the law, but there's no penalty for breaking the law. Not a felony, not a misdemeanor...... Logic vs. law. Which one wins a cage match? I know!! I know!!! MAGNETS!!!!
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Posted: 4/3/2012 6:10:19 PM
That's because laws aren't made to be logical. They are just what results when opposing sides argue and arrive at some kind of compromise that they can kinda-sorta-live-with-for-now-I-guess.
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Posted: 4/3/2012 6:17:49 PM
I inform, they will find out anyway.
The one time I was pulled over the officer said "good deal, keep it close, you never know when you will need it". |
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Posted: 4/3/2012 10:09:45 PM
When I was being finger printed for CCW, the officer's main advice was NOT to hesitate to use it if you feel your life is in danger. He said it's better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.
My response with a wink..... "What's the reason I'm here again?" As with damn near every cop I've encountered in my adult life.... he was another cool guy just out here making his way in life like the rest of us.  |
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Posted: 4/3/2012 10:11:08 PM
Originally Posted By Flatulence: When I was being finger printed for CCW, the officer's main advice was NOT to hesitate to use it if you feel your life is in danger. He said it's better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6. My response with a wink..... "What's the reason I'm here again?" As with damn near every cop I've encountered in my adult life.... he was another cool guy just out here making his way in life like the rest of us. I'd rather be calling the coroner for the dead BG in your entry way than calling the coroner for your family and looking for a BG on the lamb.  |
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Posted: 4/3/2012 10:22:43 PM
AMEN TO THAT.
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Posted: 4/4/2012 12:16:52 AM
Four stops in 10 years.
Two asked where it was, one asked what I carry, One just gave my CHL back and wrote a ticket, didn't ask anything. |
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Posted: 4/4/2012 1:11:22 AM
I was stopped last month by a FL trooper. Took both mine and the sammich makers glocks AFTER he found out I was police. Ran the ser #'s on both and tried to give me a rash of shit when he asked for our carry permits and I told him I don't need one as I'm fulltime LEO and in MY car. 20 min into the stop with him going back and forth from my car to his with a few "my FTO" stories from him I tell him either write me the ticket or let me go, I have another 6 hours of driving ahead of me. He then has me open the hatchback on my car and puts the Glocks in there, empies all the rounds out of the mags, hands me the empty mags and tells me to be careful and don't load back up until I'm back in GA. As he is making the u turn to go back the other way I open the hatch and start stoking the mags back up. He kept going. What the fuck are they teaching rookies these days?
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Posted: 4/4/2012 3:51:33 PM
Originally Posted By jakoury256:
I was stopped last month by a FL trooper. Took both mine and the sammich makers glocks AFTER he found out I was police. Ran the ser #'s on both and tried to give me a rash of shit when he asked for our carry permits and I told him I don't need one as I'm fulltime LEO and in MY car. 20 min into the stop with him going back and forth from my car to his with a few "my FTO" stories from him I tell him either write me the ticket or let me go, I have another 6 hours of driving ahead of me. He then has me open the hatchback on my car and puts the Glocks in there, empies all the rounds out of the mags, hands me the empty mags and tells me to be careful and don't load back up until I'm back in GA. As he is making the u turn to go back the other way I open the hatch and start stoking the mags back up. He kept going. What the fuck are they teaching rookies these days? Wow, some FHP is full of . I got stopped by FHP once. Asked if I had anything in the car, I told him I had a glock in the glove compartment in a holster. He retrieved it and asked for my CWP. He asked if he could run the serial number, I said no problem. He came back 5 minutes later with the glock in the holster and put it back in the glove compartment, still loaded like he had found it  then handed me my ticket  |
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Posted: 4/4/2012 7:53:07 PM
Originally Posted By liquidsniperR6:
Originally Posted By jakoury256:
I was stopped last month by a FL trooper. Took both mine and the sammich makers glocks AFTER he found out I was police. Ran the ser #'s on both and tried to give me a rash of shit when he asked for our carry permits and I told him I don't need one as I'm fulltime LEO and in MY car. 20 min into the stop with him going back and forth from my car to his with a few "my FTO" stories from him I tell him either write me the ticket or let me go, I have another 6 hours of driving ahead of me. He then has me open the hatchback on my car and puts the Glocks in there, empies all the rounds out of the mags, hands me the empty mags and tells me to be careful and don't load back up until I'm back in GA. As he is making the u turn to go back the other way I open the hatch and start stoking the mags back up. He kept going. What the fuck are they teaching rookies these days? Wow, some FHP is full of . I got stopped by FHP once. Asked if I had anything in the car, I told him I had a glock in the glove compartment in a holster. He retrieved it and asked for my CWP. He asked if he could run the serial number, I said no problem. He came back 5 minutes later with the glock in the holster and put it back in the glove compartment, still loaded like he had found it then handed me my ticket This guy ran the numbers on mine as well even though I told him they were both agency issed |
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Posted: 4/6/2012 8:53:12 AM
Been stopped a few times, everytime on my bike.
   Some call that a Hint.
They've always asked if I'm armed; I tell them yes, and where its at. If they take it (sometimes they do, sometimes they don't) they usually set it on the hood of their car while we discuss my latest traffic infraction.
The last time it happened the cop didn't even ask to see my CCW or m drivers license. I think it has to do with my attitude though, I'm very compliant, mindful what I do with my hands and how fast they move, and even let him conduct a simple frisk afer I handed over my weapon. Contrary to GD opinion, cops are our friends.  |
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Posted: 4/6/2012 10:17:00 AM
Originally Posted By jakoury256: Originally Posted By liquidsniperR6: Originally Posted By jakoury256: I was stopped last month by a FL trooper. Took both mine and the sammich makers glocks AFTER he found out I was police. Ran the ser #'s on both and tried to give me a rash of shit when he asked for our carry permits and I told him I don't need one as I'm fulltime LEO and in MY car. 20 min into the stop with him going back and forth from my car to his with a few "my FTO" stories from him I tell him either write me the ticket or let me go, I have another 6 hours of driving ahead of me. He then has me open the hatchback on my car and puts the Glocks in there, empies all the rounds out of the mags, hands me the empty mags and tells me to be careful and don't load back up until I'm back in GA. As he is making the u turn to go back the other way I open the hatch and start stoking the mags back up. He kept going. What the fuck are they teaching rookies these days? Wow, some FHP is full of . I got stopped by FHP once. Asked if I had anything in the car, I told him I had a glock in the glove compartment in a holster. He retrieved it and asked for my CWP. He asked if he could run the serial number, I said no problem. He came back 5 minutes later with the glock in the holster and put it back in the glove compartment, still loaded like he had found it then handed me my ticket This guy ran the numbers on mine as well even though I told him they were both agency issed That would have been worth a complaint, to me. A local sheriff's deputy was stopped some time back, and his agency issued weapon was taken for the duration of the traffic stop. Word is, the sheriff made a phone call to the FHP commander and politely explained that the next time one of his weapons was taken, it had better have something to do with a criminal investigation or there was going to be some unhappiness. |
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Posted: 4/6/2012 1:03:19 PM
Originally Posted By vanilla_gorilla:
Originally Posted By jakoury256:
Originally Posted By liquidsniperR6:
Originally Posted By jakoury256:
I was stopped last month by a FL trooper. Took both mine and the sammich makers glocks AFTER he found out I was police. Ran the ser #'s on both and tried to give me a rash of shit when he asked for our carry permits and I told him I don't need one as I'm fulltime LEO and in MY car. 20 min into the stop with him going back and forth from my car to his with a few "my FTO" stories from him I tell him either write me the ticket or let me go, I have another 6 hours of driving ahead of me. He then has me open the hatchback on my car and puts the Glocks in there, empies all the rounds out of the mags, hands me the empty mags and tells me to be careful and don't load back up until I'm back in GA. As he is making the u turn to go back the other way I open the hatch and start stoking the mags back up. He kept going. What the fuck are they teaching rookies these days? Wow, some FHP is full of . I got stopped by FHP once. Asked if I had anything in the car, I told him I had a glock in the glove compartment in a holster. He retrieved it and asked for my CWP. He asked if he could run the serial number, I said no problem. He came back 5 minutes later with the glock in the holster and put it back in the glove compartment, still loaded like he had found it then handed me my ticket This guy ran the numbers on mine as well even though I told him they were both agency issed That would have been worth a complaint, to me. A local sheriff's deputy was stopped some time back, and his agency issued weapon was taken for the duration of the traffic stop. Word is, the sheriff made a phone call to the FHP commander and politely explained that the next time one of his weapons was taken, it had better have something to do with a criminal investigation or there was going to be some unhappiness. Too bad John Q Public isn't able to make those same demands... |
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Posted: 4/6/2012 1:45:44 PM
Originally Posted By Flatulence: Originally Posted By vanilla_gorilla: Originally Posted By jakoury256: Originally Posted By liquidsniperR6: Originally Posted By jakoury256: I was stopped last month by a FL trooper. Took both mine and the sammich makers glocks AFTER he found out I was police. Ran the ser #'s on both and tried to give me a rash of shit when he asked for our carry permits and I told him I don't need one as I'm fulltime LEO and in MY car. 20 min into the stop with him going back and forth from my car to his with a few "my FTO" stories from him I tell him either write me the ticket or let me go, I have another 6 hours of driving ahead of me. He then has me open the hatchback on my car and puts the Glocks in there, empies all the rounds out of the mags, hands me the empty mags and tells me to be careful and don't load back up until I'm back in GA. As he is making the u turn to go back the other way I open the hatch and start stoking the mags back up. He kept going. What the fuck are they teaching rookies these days? Wow, some FHP is full of . I got stopped by FHP once. Asked if I had anything in the car, I told him I had a glock in the glove compartment in a holster. He retrieved it and asked for my CWP. He asked if he could run the serial number, I said no problem. He came back 5 minutes later with the glock in the holster and put it back in the glove compartment, still loaded like he had found it then handed me my ticket This guy ran the numbers on mine as well even though I told him they were both agency issed That would have been worth a complaint, to me. A local sheriff's deputy was stopped some time back, and his agency issued weapon was taken for the duration of the traffic stop. Word is, the sheriff made a phone call to the FHP commander and politely explained that the next time one of his weapons was taken, it had better have something to do with a criminal investigation or there was going to be some unhappiness. Too bad John Q Public isn't able to make those same demands... Sure you are. You can make any demands you want. |
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Posted: 4/6/2012 2:28:00 PM
Originally Posted By bcauz3y:
Originally Posted By Flatulence:
Originally Posted By vanilla_gorilla:
Originally Posted By jakoury256:
Originally Posted By liquidsniperR6:
Originally Posted By jakoury256:
I was stopped last month by a FL trooper. Took both mine and the sammich makers glocks AFTER he found out I was police. Ran the ser #'s on both and tried to give me a rash of shit when he asked for our carry permits and I told him I don't need one as I'm fulltime LEO and in MY car. 20 min into the stop with him going back and forth from my car to his with a few "my FTO" stories from him I tell him either write me the ticket or let me go, I have another 6 hours of driving ahead of me. He then has me open the hatchback on my car and puts the Glocks in there, empies all the rounds out of the mags, hands me the empty mags and tells me to be careful and don't load back up until I'm back in GA. As he is making the u turn to go back the other way I open the hatch and start stoking the mags back up. He kept going. What the fuck are they teaching rookies these days? Wow, some FHP is full of . I got stopped by FHP once. Asked if I had anything in the car, I told him I had a glock in the glove compartment in a holster. He retrieved it and asked for my CWP. He asked if he could run the serial number, I said no problem. He came back 5 minutes later with the glock in the holster and put it back in the glove compartment, still loaded like he had found it then handed me my ticket This guy ran the numbers on mine as well even though I told him they were both agency issed That would have been worth a complaint, to me. A local sheriff's deputy was stopped some time back, and his agency issued weapon was taken for the duration of the traffic stop. Word is, the sheriff made a phone call to the FHP commander and politely explained that the next time one of his weapons was taken, it had better have something to do with a criminal investigation or there was going to be some unhappiness. Too bad John Q Public isn't able to make those same demands... Sure you are. You can make any demands you want. Good point... Will it stop the LEO from taking my gun... for his safety? Or whatever reason he's giving? I doubt it. I think he will just chuckle inside and continue to disarm me. |
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Posted: 4/6/2012 2:31:21 PM
Originally Posted By Flatulence: Originally Posted By bcauz3y: Sure you are. You can make any demands you want. Good point... Will it stop the LEO from taking my gun... for his safety? Or whatever reason he's giving? I doubt it. I think he will just chuckle inside and continue to disarm me. Most cops don't disarm licensed CCWers. Some do. I don't. |
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Posted: 4/6/2012 2:36:43 PM
Originally Posted By ReefRaider:
Been stopped 3 times while armed. Never had them disarm me. The last time I was going to the range. FHP stopped me for speeding 83 in a 70 moving radar. After he had seen all the gun case's in the back seat he asked where I was going. I said to the range, he knew where it was. Asked if I go there often, I said yes I'm a member and a RSO. Came back with a warning ticket and told me he didn't want to see me again. Never been disarmed. They will ask, "Where is it?" "On my hip." "Leave it there." |
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Posted: 4/6/2012 2:37:49 PM
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My father-in-law was stopped for speeding and presented his CCW card along with his drivers license. The officer asked " Do you have your firearm with you?" (My father-in-law had left it at home.) No I don't, he said 
The officer said "Then what good is it?" and sent him on his way. 
My wife got the same response last time she was pulled over for speeding. (In Colorado, they know who CCW are.) |
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Posted: 4/6/2012 2:38:53 PM
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Originally Posted By Flatulence:
Originally Posted By bcauz3y:
Sure you are. You can make any demands you want. Good point... Will it stop the LEO from taking my gun... for his safety? Or whatever reason he's giving? I doubt it. I think he will just chuckle inside and continue to disarm me. Most cops don't disarm licensed CCWers. Some do. I don't. I realize that. Heck, I haven't had any sour dealings with a cop since I was a punk kid. That doesn't make me loose sight of the fact that they aren't ALL nice and respectful... as can be seen from the posts on this thread alone. The Enforcemnt Arm has my respect and full support, but that support isn't unconditional any more than we are willing to give our Politician's that kind of absolute power. IMO, if a cop takes my gun without solid reason, then he should be fired the moment his super's view the tape after I've complained. |
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