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Posted: 10/13/2011 8:24:23 AM
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Nothing for me as I've only been carrying a couple of years but there have been uncomfortable situations where being armed has made me MUCH more comfortable.
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Posted: 10/13/2011 9:19:27 AM
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Mine's not very exciting:

2008 right after returning from Iraq. I was pumping gas at a local gas station around midnight carrying my Kimber Custom Covert II. 3 very shady looking characters pull up in beat 1980's truck. Right off the bat I took them to be on meth due to their twitchy mannerisms. Nobody else in the parking lot but me and them. one circled around and appeared to be heading inside, then i notice him swing back around and start approaching me from the rear while the other two starting towards my left and right sides. One of them called out to me as they started getting closer and asked if he could "borrow" some gas money. Now around this time in my small town I had heard rumors of several other being robbed and this was near the same MO. So I replied that I had no cash on me hoping that would make them leave me alone. They continued getting closer so I casually moved my coat back a little ways in case I needed easier access to my gun. One of them noticed what I did and saw that I was carrying and they just said something to the others, they got back in the truck and left. I had tried as to do nothing confrontational as I did not want the situation to escalate and I believe I made the right choice in not panicking and finger-fucking my gun. I believe had I not been carrying that night things would have taken a different turn.

If you had drawn, then calmly waited for their next move... would you consider that "finger fucking" your gun?

NOT beating on you at all. Just interested in hearing further explanation of what "finger fucking my gun" means for you.


I meant as in prematurely drawing and instigating further confrontation.

So you're saying that giving them a mere glimps of your holstered weapon made them leave, but actually drawing the weapon (finger fucking) would have made them more agressive?

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Posted: 10/13/2011 10:09:55 AM
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Originally Posted By pr24guy:
When I was younger and living in Tennessee. I was out shooting, some yahoos came out of the woods riding in the back of a pickup.

They watched me shooting and waited till I put down my rifle. They came over and said something like " That gun sure would be nice to own", "I think were gonna take it".

Drawing my .357 from my concealed holster and saying somethiing like, 'Only if you survive and I die". I then drew my Walther PP from my support side pocket and just stood there with two guns out.
They said they were just joking,& I should have a nice day.

There were others, but this one was the one I like telling.



Why ? It obviously was pretty fucking effective in making those guys leave.



Have you ever tried shooting with a gun in each hand?
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Posted: 10/13/2011 11:03:31 AM
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Originally Posted By jh1990:
Originally Posted By pr24guy:
When I was younger and living in Tennessee. I was out shooting, some yahoos came out of the woods riding in the back of a pickup.

They watched me shooting and waited till I put down my rifle. They came over and said something like " That gun sure would be nice to own", "I think were gonna take it".

Drawing my .357 from my concealed holster and saying somethiing like, 'Only if you survive and I die". I then drew my Walther PP from my support side pocket and just stood there with two guns out.
They said they were just joking,& I should have a nice day.

There were others, but this one was the one I like telling.





Actually I have and do practice shooting with a gun in each hand, I also practice one handed, low light, moving and shooting, team movement while engaging , kneeling, prone, on my back, and anything else I can come up with.
I carried the Walther PP as a backup. I bought it in Germany when I was stationed there from 83-86. It was a Police trade in.
Why ? It obviously was pretty fucking effective in making those guys leave.



Have you ever tried shooting with a gun in each hand?


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Posted: 10/13/2011 1:04:55 PM

Originally Posted By Flatulence:
Originally Posted By Mikhail_86:

Originally Posted By Flatulence:
Originally Posted By Mikhail_86:
Mine's not very exciting:

2008 right after returning from Iraq. I was pumping gas at a local gas station around midnight carrying my Kimber Custom Covert II. 3 very shady looking characters pull up in beat 1980's truck. Right off the bat I took them to be on meth due to their twitchy mannerisms. Nobody else in the parking lot but me and them. one circled around and appeared to be heading inside, then i notice him swing back around and start approaching me from the rear while the other two starting towards my left and right sides. One of them called out to me as they started getting closer and asked if he could "borrow" some gas money. Now around this time in my small town I had heard rumors of several other being robbed and this was near the same MO. So I replied that I had no cash on me hoping that would make them leave me alone. They continued getting closer so I casually moved my coat back a little ways in case I needed easier access to my gun. One of them noticed what I did and saw that I was carrying and they just said something to the others, they got back in the truck and left. I had tried as to do nothing confrontational as I did not want the situation to escalate and I believe I made the right choice in not panicking and finger-fucking my gun. I believe had I not been carrying that night things would have taken a different turn.

If you had drawn, then calmly waited for their next move... would you consider that "finger fucking" your gun?

NOT beating on you at all. Just interested in hearing further explanation of what "finger fucking my gun" means for you.


I meant as in prematurely drawing and instigating further confrontation.

So you're saying that giving them a mere glimps of your holstered weapon made them leave, but actually drawing the weapon (finger fucking) would have made them more agressive?


All I'm saying is what happened, we can speculate to the ends of the earth on what might have happened with different variables but I'm pretty sure the OP just wanted stories of times when CCW helped. All I was doing was telling my story
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Posted: 10/13/2011 1:46:40 PM
Originally Posted By Mikhail_86:

Originally Posted By Flatulence:
Originally Posted By Mikhail_86:

Originally Posted By Flatulence:
Originally Posted By Mikhail_86:
Mine's not very exciting:

2008 right after returning from Iraq. I was pumping gas at a local gas station around midnight carrying my Kimber Custom Covert II. 3 very shady looking characters pull up in beat 1980's truck. Right off the bat I took them to be on meth due to their twitchy mannerisms. Nobody else in the parking lot but me and them. one circled around and appeared to be heading inside, then i notice him swing back around and start approaching me from the rear while the other two starting towards my left and right sides. One of them called out to me as they started getting closer and asked if he could "borrow" some gas money. Now around this time in my small town I had heard rumors of several other being robbed and this was near the same MO. So I replied that I had no cash on me hoping that would make them leave me alone. They continued getting closer so I casually moved my coat back a little ways in case I needed easier access to my gun. One of them noticed what I did and saw that I was carrying and they just said something to the others, they got back in the truck and left. I had tried as to do nothing confrontational as I did not want the situation to escalate and I believe I made the right choice in not panicking and finger-fucking my gun. I believe had I not been carrying that night things would have taken a different turn.

If you had drawn, then calmly waited for their next move... would you consider that "finger fucking" your gun?

NOT beating on you at all. Just interested in hearing further explanation of what "finger fucking my gun" means for you.


I meant as in prematurely drawing and instigating further confrontation.

So you're saying that giving them a mere glimps of your holstered weapon made them leave, but actually drawing the weapon (finger fucking) would have made them more agressive?


All I'm saying is what happened, we can speculate to the ends of the earth on what might have happened with different variables but I'm pretty sure the OP just wanted stories of times when CCW helped. All I was doing was telling my story

Yea. I got that. I just wanted to know what your idea of "finger fucking" was. And, from your description, it sounds like everyone who told their story in this thread, who put their hands on their weapon without firing it, was "Finger Fucking" it.

The term "finger fucking" sounds derogatory to me and I thank you for the explanation.

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Not my story, but...
In the late '50s or early '60s my mother and father lived in AZ. They would explore old ghost towns for fun. They were confronted at one point by several scumbags who made several comments about what they were going to do to her while he watched. It was at that point that dad drew the Smith model 25 that he carried "for snakes and critters", and asked who he should shoot first. He said that he'd always wondered what their rapid fire Spanish meant as they backed out and ran.

I'm still pissed about not getting that weapon when he passed away.

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Posted: 10/13/2011 3:38:54 PM
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So - question guys.

I was always taught, Don't pull your weapon until you are ready to use it (lethal force in defense of life). I notice in several of the stories above, the "showing" of the weapon was a deterrent (luckly!)

What is the right protocol here - depends?

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ETA: Good thread.




I've had to brandish before to get a meathead to understand that I was no about to take an ass beating from him because of some stupid shit that happened in a retail store. I literally left the establishment to head to my vehicle (to avoid a physical confrontation), he followed, ran in front of me to block my way to my truck and told me he was going to "rip my head off and leave my body in the street". So I took about two steps back, uncovered my firearm, and pulled it out of the holster and said "no, you're not". He regained his senses immediately and apologized to me me, went back inside the store, and I've never seen him again.

My slight against him that warranted me getting my head ripped off was moving his shopping cart out of the way so I could get by the isle he completely blocked. He was probably (and I'm being serious) about 80 yards away on the other side of the damn store to boot....

Anyway, that's my cool story!
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Posted: 10/13/2011 3:47:37 PM

Originally Posted By Flatulence:
Originally Posted By Mikhail_86:

Originally Posted By Flatulence:
Originally Posted By Mikhail_86:

Originally Posted By Flatulence:
Originally Posted By Mikhail_86:
Mine's not very exciting:

2008 right after returning from Iraq. I was pumping gas at a local gas station around midnight carrying my Kimber Custom Covert II. 3 very shady looking characters pull up in beat 1980's truck. Right off the bat I took them to be on meth due to their twitchy mannerisms. Nobody else in the parking lot but me and them. one circled around and appeared to be heading inside, then i notice him swing back around and start approaching me from the rear while the other two starting towards my left and right sides. One of them called out to me as they started getting closer and asked if he could "borrow" some gas money. Now around this time in my small town I had heard rumors of several other being robbed and this was near the same MO. So I replied that I had no cash on me hoping that would make them leave me alone. They continued getting closer so I casually moved my coat back a little ways in case I needed easier access to my gun. One of them noticed what I did and saw that I was carrying and they just said something to the others, they got back in the truck and left. I had tried as to do nothing confrontational as I did not want the situation to escalate and I believe I made the right choice in not panicking and finger-fucking my gun. I believe had I not been carrying that night things would have taken a different turn.

If you had drawn, then calmly waited for their next move... would you consider that "finger fucking" your gun?

NOT beating on you at all. Just interested in hearing further explanation of what "finger fucking my gun" means for you.


I meant as in prematurely drawing and instigating further confrontation.

So you're saying that giving them a mere glimps of your holstered weapon made them leave, but actually drawing the weapon (finger fucking) would have made them more agressive?


All I'm saying is what happened, we can speculate to the ends of the earth on what might have happened with different variables but I'm pretty sure the OP just wanted stories of times when CCW helped. All I was doing was telling my story

Yea. I got that. I just wanted to know what your idea of "finger fucking" was. And, from your description, it sounds like everyone who told their story in this thread, who put their hands on their weapon without firing it, was "Finger Fucking" it.

The term "finger fucking" sounds derogatory to me and I thank you for the explanation.


It was not intended to be derogatory
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250,000 times for the peeps that carry OPEN

the BG see's it and does not want no part of it

if it aint easy they aint taiking it from ya.........
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I've had a few incidents where it has helped, but the worst was when I was 15. I had only been driving for two weeks and was heading to my dad's office. I pulled up to a somewhat secluded stop sign on a frontage road and noticed a suspicious individual coming straight towards me. I remembered my brother had left his pistol in the Bronco and instinctively put it under my leg. My doors were locked but my windows were down so I knew he could reach through to open the door if he wanted. I put the Bronco in reverse thinking that if he did that I could try to knock him over with the door, plus it was a better escape route with no one behind me and too much oncoming traffic hauling ass on the frontage road.

When he got to the window, I could tell from his staggering and bloodshot eyes that he was probably drunk and/or high. He stated that he needed $5 because a nut came loose off a tire on his vehicle. I asked where his vehicle was and he just kind of grumbled and threw his hand in a general direction. I told him that I didn't have any cash, but I pointed out that we were right next to an Auto Zone. I told him I'd be happy to go in and buy the nut for him, and that's when he got pissed. He jacked himself up, his eyes got wide and he yelled, "I JUST NEED FIVE DOLLARS!" At this point, I've noticed there's now a car pulling up behind me and there's still oncoming traffic. He proceeds to put his left arm through the window to open the door and his right arm goes behind his back like he's about to pull a knife or a gun. I didn't see any other option so I pointed the gun straight between his eyes and told him, "I wouldn't do that if I were you."

The rage in his eyes was quickly replaced with fear, and he just kept saying, "I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry." Anyway, I'm not sure how it would have turned out had my brother not forgotten his pistol, but I'm glad I didn't have to find out.
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Posted: 10/13/2011 6:47:42 PM
Originally Posted By Vipsanius:
I've had a few incidents where it has helped, but the worst was when I was 15. I had only been driving for two weeks and was heading to my dad's office. I pulled up to a somewhat secluded stop sign on a frontage road and noticed a suspicious individual coming straight towards me. I remembered my brother had left his pistol in the Bronco and instinctively put it under my leg. My doors were locked but my windows were down so I knew he could reach through to open the door if he wanted. I put the Bronco in reverse thinking that if he did that I could try to knock him over with the door, plus it was a better escape route with no one behind me and too much oncoming traffic hauling ass on the frontage road.

When he got to the window, I could tell from his staggering and bloodshot eyes that he was probably drunk and/or high. He stated that he needed $5 because a nut came loose off a tire on his vehicle. I asked where his vehicle was and he just kind of grumbled and threw his hand in a general direction. I told him that I didn't have any cash, but I pointed out that we were right next to an Auto Zone. I told him I'd be happy to go in and buy the nut for him, and that's when he got pissed. He jacked himself up, his eyes got wide and he yelled, "I JUST NEED FIVE DOLLARS!" At this point, I've noticed there's now a car pulling up behind me and there's still oncoming traffic. He proceeds to put his left arm through the window to open the door and his right arm goes behind his back like he's about to pull a knife or a gun. I didn't see any other option so I pointed the gun straight between his eyes and told him, "I wouldn't do that if I were you."

The rage in his eyes was quickly replaced with fear, and he just kept saying, "I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry." Anyway, I'm not sure how it would have turned out had my brother not forgotten his pistol, but I'm glad I didn't have to find out.


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A few years ago I was doing something in my house doing work in the kitchen when I heard my doorbell. It was during the day in the middle of the week and most the people around where I live were working. I cleaned up what I was doing, washed my hands and started walking towards the front door. The doorbell rang again and then pounding on my door so I started thinking a few different things. 1) being Maybe someone needs help 2) maybe its the Police.
I got to the front door and opened the door half way (see image below). I had my Sig 229 riding in a Sifariland ALS paddle holster but where I was standing and how the door opens It was blocked by the door and half my body was covered by the door as well. (again see image below)
As I opened the door I see a VERY suspicious "urban" male standing at my stoop. I greeted the male and asked him how I could help him. The subject who looked 47 said that he was in an after school program to keep him and other "teens" out of trouble. He then went into a spiel about how he was trying to beat out the other "students" on selling magazine subscriptions and how the winner gets a free trip to Florida and will get spending money and stay in a hotel on the beach, etc... Then he asked me if I have ever been to Florida and if I couldn't help him out.
I politely said Yes, I'd been to Florida however I could not help him out as I do not typically read magazines and I did not want to purchase any of his magazine subscriptions. That is when the guy began to bug out, he started to become aggressive, the initial point of contact he was pleasant and was polite and had proper grammar and speech, but when I said no he "Snapped his gums" (the sound that "urban" people do that sounds like they are spitting something out of their teeth) and began using slang and began with horrible grammar. Saying how he "Suggests that I BUY his magazine subscriptions" he had a look in his eye that was very aggressive and had a stair that was to say "You don't I WILL hurt you" as if to intimidate me. Just at that moment the guy began to walk towards my door and began to raise his hand as he approached the door (He started standing in the grass and was just about to get to my stoop). That is when I opened my door a bit more which displayed the sidearm on my hip. The subject Instantly stopped and froze in fear. The subject took a step back with his hands raised in the air and began to say "We are cool, We are cool, We are cool" and had the most terrified look on his face.
I said "No, We are NOT cool, you dare to attempt to enter my residence after I decline your offer to buy into your scam of a magazine subscription ploy. When I said no you attempted to intimidate me and aggressively came towards me. You are lucky to be standing right now. I suggest you get out of my yard and I suggest even more highly that you stay out of my neighborhood and I don't want to ever see you in this area again!!" that is when the subject said I wouldn't ever see him again and he wasn't a problem. The Subject turned and ran off and I've never seen him come to my door, I have also never seen him again.
Doesn't seem like much, however I had heard a few months later that there had been people going door to door and when someone would buy a subscription (credit card only) the people would steel their info and use their credit card info. Then those who didn't the people would A) assault them B) force their way in and steal stuff. So I am kind of glad that I had my gun on my hip at the time and feel the situation may have turned out worse if I wouldn't have had it.


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a few years ago I was at a party things were going well until people started getting drunk, its usually how parties start.

Anyways a guy and a girl get into an arguement and the guy says "listen bitch I'll do whatever I want, I'll take your car if I want to."

The girl was a freind and the guy some dude she brought over, myself and three other freinds intervene and ask him to politely leave as he has overstayed his welcome, he grabs the womans keys from the counter and runs out to her car. We follow him outside and very calmly say we know who you are, where you live and the lic plate of the car and the make model blah blah, and as soon as you leave we are calling the police to report a stolen vehicle. Thsi aggrvates him beyond comprehension, he speeds off wth her car and calls the woman on his cell phone saying he'll be back with his gun to take care of us. At that point we call the police and My Kimber CDP comes out of the holster, the doors are locked to the house and we order everyone into the back rooms of the house where my buddy gets his XD 9mm and we prepare.

Good news is the Police intercept him before he comes back to the house, no gun is found on him, but there was a baseball bat and a tire iron. He got the charges dropped which pissed me off but he no longer comes over or trys stupid shit with us anymore. I dont think he had any Idea what was wating for him.
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All good stories. I'm sorry you all had to go through this and glad you came out of it okay. I have nothing to share and just wanted to say thank you for sharing as each of these stories helps us all prepare.
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All good stories. I'm sorry you all had to go through this and glad you came out of it okay. I have nothing to share and just wanted to say thank you for sharing as each of these stories helps us all prepare.


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All good stories. I'm sorry you all had to go through this and glad you came out of it okay. I have nothing to share and just wanted to say thank you for sharing as each of these stories helps us all prepare.


Exactly why I started this thread, I figure the more information that we all have, and the more situations we read up on, the more we can prepare for in the advent we ever have to use our weapons. (something I hope to never have to do, but am prepared to do)
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I'm pretty sure I've posted this here before, but it's been awhile.

Years ago, I worked the night shift at a small gas station located in a not so great area. We had regular problems with drunks/druggies panhandling on the property. I got pretty used to seeing these guys, and really didn't see them as much of a threat to me personally. One night, that all changed.

Even though it was against official company policy, I carried a gun at work, which at the time was a S&W M60 in .38 Special, typically loaded with the classic 158gr. LSWCHP+P, carried in a cheapy Uncle Mike's IWB holster under my untucked shirt.

It was a fairly slow night with only a few customers. I saw a disheveled looking man approach a woman who was filling her car up. I hadn't seen this guy before, so I knew he wasn't one of the regular beggers. He was facing the woman with his back towards me, and I could clearly see this woman looked frightened by him. I figured he was begging her for money and went out to tell him to leave. I tapped him on his shoulder, and started to say, "You need to leave...." when he spun around to face me. That's when I saw he had a fairly large knife. I immediately started backing away from him and put my right hand on my gun. I put my left hand up in front of me and told him to stay the fuck away from me. I backed my way inside, went behind the counter, picked up the phone, and dialed 911. He followed me, yelling that he was going to cut me up. He was reaching over the counter, the only thing between him and me, and making stabbing and slashing motions towards me with the knife. I had my back up against the wall with nowhere to go, and was giving the 911 operator the play by play of what was going on. Then he started to climb up over the counter. It was then that I finally drew my .38 and leveled it at his head. The sight of that little revolver pointed at his head caused an immediate change in his whole attitude. The next thing I remember, his eyes bugged out, his jaw dropped, he turned white as a sheet, dropped the knife, put his hands up, and started backing away from me.
The cops got there right after that and arrested him.
The whole thing was probably only a minute or 2, but it felt like it was much longer. It was like a dream. When one of the officers asked me why I didn't shoot him, is when reality set in.

In hindsight, I hesitated way too long before drawing. The whole thing would have been over much sooner if I had just drawn as soon as I saw he had a knife. I'm not really sure why I waited so long before I drew, it might of had something to do with the "no guns" company policy, and fear of losing my job if my boss found out. When this happened I had only been carrying for a short time, and didn't have any real training. I know better now. BTW, my boss did eventually find out about me carrying at work, and she was actually cool about it. She said that it is corporate policy, but not hers.

There have been several other times that I was glad I had a gun, but that was the only time I've ever had to draw and actually point a gun at another human being.
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Not sure if my life was ever in danger exactly but having a firearm with me definitely gave me a sense of security.

One night I was helping my friend and his brother close up their check cashing place right outside of Denver. My friend was open carrying an XDm .45 and I was open carrying my XD .40 when we headed into the parking lot towards our cars. Some bum comes up and asks for money, and tries to keep giving some random story about how he needs some cash for food or something. We tell him no several times and he starts reaching for something inside his jacket. Both my friend and I put our hands next to but not quite touching our handguns and the guy flips out saying he was only reaching for his cigarettes. He backs up slowly, pulls his cigarettes out of his jacket pocket, and walks away.

Glad I was armed that night but also glad that neither of us had an itchy trigger finger that night.
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BTW, my boss did eventually find out about me carrying at work, and she was actually cool about it. She said that it is corporate policy, but not hers.


Glad you're OK and glad you didn't get fired. Did she find out as a direct result of this incident?
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Man ive gotta get my concealed carry permit ! I only have one instant where i was selling a car on my property and it was about 8 pm on a saturday a couple of guys wanted to come by and take a look at it even though it was kind of late out i said ok . Two gangster looking guys show up 2 hrs later ! One looks a little drunk the other can hardly speak english . I have my full size smith and wesson M&P tucked in my pants . Now this is ten o clock at night im already annoyed and dont care either way if they buy the car. The guy can sense this and starts getting mouthy with me and gives me about 1000 dollars and says thats all he will pay and that he is taking the car as he starts to get im I lifted my shirt , made it very clear i had a firearm and told him the asking price was 1500 and if he didnt like it to leave . Needless to say i got the asking price and never saw those idiots again . To think the guy was really going to get in the car and leave , no bill of sale and half my stuff in the backseat and i was just going to let it happen is just ridiculous .
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Posted: 10/22/2011 9:10:43 PM
where you can find blitz308's thread?
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Posted: 10/22/2011 9:58:32 PM
"Eventually, I managed to use the squirrel to break down the door..."
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Posted: 10/23/2011 12:21:07 AM
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Posted: 10/23/2011 2:31:14 AM
Two Cool Stories, both happened in Fayetteville, NC:

1) The Perfume Guys

There were these two guys who would cruise around the Merc in this old blue POS and try to sell you generic cologne and perfumes. Right after I had returned from Iraq, my wife and I were at Michael's. I had just put our purchases in the trunk when they pull up perpendicular to the rear of my car, blocking me in. I tell my wife to get in the car and turn to face them. They ask me if I want to buy some perfume or cologne, and I politely decline. They insist, and say that they are not going to allow me to leave until I buy something. I moved my jacket back to clear access to my XD45 and tell them they have three choices: Stay and wait for the Police, Stay and get shot, or leave. They left.

The other one is more of a comfort story.

2) The Explorer

I was coming back from visiting family. At the time, I lived out on Ray Road in Spring Lake. It was late, sometime after 2200-ish, and I had the wife and my two kids asleep in the car, along with luggage, boxes, all the usual vacation/visiting crap. I was in the right lane on 210, and had the cruise control set for about 5 over the limit. I pass a Ford Explorer in the left lane, and get maybe 3 car lengths in front of him when he suddenly roars by, and then slows down. Since I have my CC set, I pass him again. He speeds up again, and slows down. The third time I pass him, I signal and get in front of him since my turn is coming up. He roars up, squeals to a stop at the red light, and when I look over I can barely see some white 20-something dude in a white t-shirt and sideways red hat "mean muggin" me. (the windows on my car are fairly dark) Apparently, I offended him when I passed him. I reached down and adjusted my XD45, as a reassurance, like.

Now, the turn lane I am in is a two-lane left turn. I am in the left hand lane, he is in the right hand-left turn lane. The lane that I am in goes straight onto Ray Road after the turn, his lane ends in a right turn onto a different road, maybe 50 meters after the turn. I KNOW what is gonna happen. He is Going To Show Me! No 4-door grandma car (2000 Dodge Intrepid) can outrun his badass Explorer!

Granted, I should have just let him go...but I was kinda riled up. Here I am, minding my own business, been on the road for most of the day, all I want is to get home and into bed, and here is some wannabe gangsta white thug wanting to start shit. So, I drop the Auto Stick into "manual", and when the light turns green I power into the turn and floor it as soon as I clear the intersection. I was 3/4th of a car length in front of him when he had to slam on the brakes and duck in behind me to avoid the light pole where his lane abruptly ended. He stayed on my bumper all the way until I signaled and pulled into the Food Lion parking lot and stopped under one of the lights. Fortunately, he kept going.

I have yet to require an adrenaline dump, a blade at 45 degrees, or actually clear leather...and I hope that I never do...but I prepare against the eventuality.
"You see? It's like I've always said: "You can get more with a kind word and a two-by-four than you can with just a kind word." - Marcus Cole
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