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Posted: 12/18/2015 11:45:19 AM EDT
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Shockwave for the win
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Posted: 12/18/2015 11:49:18 AM EDT
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Shockwave for the win I have to agree here. Significantly lighter, less expensive, more streamlined. Maybe not as 'comfortable', though. |
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Posted: 12/18/2015 12:03:47 PM EDT
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Thanks so far that was my thinking as well well less cost for one and not so bulky. So the shockwave is durable and not flimsy right? I just have never seen one before.
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Posted: 12/18/2015 1:30:34 PM EDT
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Shockwave.
I have both braces and have tried single point sling only. Single point sling / pushing forward does work, but the brace (either) works better. By "works", I mean "can get accurate hits faster". Shockwave wins over SIG on all counts: lighter, cheaper, far less bulky, AND you can put the pistol down without unstrapping it. Getting into and out of a SIG brace is not convenient. |
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Posted: 12/18/2015 2:01:42 PM EDT
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Thank you exactly what I was looking for and I appreciate the info.....next question side folder or no side folder option?
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Shockwave. I have both braces and have tried single point sling only. Single point sling / pushing forward does work, but the brace (either) works better. By "works", I mean "can get accurate hits faster". Shockwave wins over SIG on all counts: lighter, cheaper, far less bulky, AND you can put the pistol down without unstrapping it. Getting into and out of a SIG brace is not convenient. |
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Posted: 12/18/2015 3:27:41 PM EDT
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Thank you exactly what I was looking for and I appreciate the info.....next question side folder or no side folder option? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Thank you exactly what I was looking for and I appreciate the info.....next question side folder or no side folder option? Quoted:
Shockwave. I have both braces and have tried single point sling only. Single point sling / pushing forward does work, but the brace (either) works better. By "works", I mean "can get accurate hits faster". Shockwave wins over SIG on all counts: lighter, cheaper, far less bulky, AND you can put the pistol down without unstrapping it. Getting into and out of a SIG brace is not convenient. Well, with a side folder, a Shockwave-braced PAP with a 20-round mag fits into a large laptop bag / briefcase... |
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Posted: 12/18/2015 3:46:58 PM EDT
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Thanks for all your help sounds exactly like what I am looking for then and should work great I appreciate it :)
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Well, with a side folder, a Shockwave-braced PAP with a 20-round mag fits into a large laptop bag / briefcase... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Thank you exactly what I was looking for and I appreciate the info.....next question side folder or no side folder option? Quoted:
Shockwave. I have both braces and have tried single point sling only. Single point sling / pushing forward does work, but the brace (either) works better. By "works", I mean "can get accurate hits faster". Shockwave wins over SIG on all counts: lighter, cheaper, far less bulky, AND you can put the pistol down without unstrapping it. Getting into and out of a SIG brace is not convenient. Well, with a side folder, a Shockwave-braced PAP with a 20-round mag fits into a large laptop bag / briefcase... |
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Posted: 12/19/2015 5:30:27 PM EDT
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Suggestions:
KAK tube and brace kit is $95. You don't need the spring and buffer, and (depending on your sling setup) you might want a different endplate. KAK StormWerks folder mechanism for AR buffer tube is $75. StormWerks Optional, but nice is the WildBill wedge ($60) and backing plate ($28) to make installing your folding brace easy. He's selling them over on AKFiles. Either a google search for "M92 PAP wedge kit" or a member name search on AKFiles will get you the link. Might as well replace the handguards with the Manticore ones and screw on one of their brakes while you're at it. Manticore Yes, I've just doubled the price of your PAP. Sorry 'bout that. Not really. 
BTW, the Hornady 123gr SST steel cased ammo seems to be optimal in the PAP. |
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Posted: 12/19/2015 8:35:42 PM EDT
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Excellent info and really appreciate the links as well thats going to cost some coin
 but when done wow will they be nice thanks pigbat going to be a nice project..
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Posted: 12/19/2015 9:48:55 PM EDT
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my mini draco waiting on sbr form 1
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Posted: 12/19/2015 9:57:41 PM EDT
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I have both braces shockwave for sure it's better than the SIG brace in every way. I actually have three shockwave braces sold the Sig brace.
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Posted: 12/21/2015 12:09:11 AM EDT
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I've had both, Shockwave Technologies Blade wins!
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Posted: 12/21/2015 12:17:31 AM EDT
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Shockwave for the win FPNI Sig Brace is too heavy. |
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Posted: 1/3/2016 3:22:02 PM EDT
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Suggestions: KAK tube and brace kit is $95. You don't need the spring and buffer, and (depending on your sling setup) you might want a different endplate. KAK StormWerks folder mechanism for AR buffer tube is $75. StormWerks Optional, but nice is the WildBill wedge ($60) and backing plate ($28) to make installing your folding brace easy. He's selling them over on AKFiles. Either a google search for "M92 PAP wedge kit" or a member name search on AKFiles will get you the link. Might as well replace the handguards with the Manticore ones and screw on one of their brakes while you're at it. Manticore Yes, I've just doubled the price of your PAP. Sorry 'bout that. Not really.
BTW, the Hornady 123gr SST steel cased ammo seems to be optimal in the PAP. Great links! Thank you 
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Posted: 1/8/2016 2:22:20 PM EDT
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Shockwave for the win I agree 100%. The Sig brace isn't a bad option either but the shockwave is just a cleaner looking / functional piece of kit. |
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Posted: 1/16/2016 6:47:44 PM EDT
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On my ar pistol, I have the Nordic tube and clamp that keeps the sig brace from rotating and moving forward. Is there such a thing for the shockwave?
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Posted: 1/16/2016 7:03:29 PM EDT
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On my ar pistol, I have the Nordic tube and clamp that keeps the sig brace from rotating and moving forward. Is there such a thing for the shockwave? If you buy the KAK tube with your brace (and you definitely should), it has a row of dimples along the bottom. The brace itself has a pointed setscrew that you tighten to lock it into one of the dimples. It's a very clean, integrated system. I suppose you could set your desired length, drill through the appropriate dimple, tap the tube, and run the setscrew into the tube if you wanted to get real anal about it, but the dimples seem to hold the brace quite well, both rotationally and lengthwise. |
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Posted: 1/16/2016 7:16:53 PM EDT
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I just looked up a picture of the tube. That looks like it would work great. Bil probably order one tonight.
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Posted: 1/17/2016 1:17:06 AM EDT
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I went with Shockwave.
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Posted: 1/17/2016 8:53:11 PM EDT
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I really like the sb15 on my mini Draco but I'm going to change it to a shockwave. I have a shockwave on my AR pistol and its just a little nicer.
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Posted: 1/19/2016 2:03:31 PM EDT
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Shockwave because......if a tree falls in the forest, and nobody is around to hear does it make a sound?!?!
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Posted: 1/19/2016 9:17:15 PM EDT
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SBX or SB15, because if you misuse it against the shoulder, it's much softer than the Shockwave. It's even softer than an AK rifle with a nancy pad. And any of them misused that way beat the crap out of tight sling method for stability and accuracy.
And of course shoulder fire is the only reason to have any of the braces for everyone except maybe 5 people in the world with a certain very narrow range of physical problems. - OS |
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Posted: 1/23/2016 2:01:33 PM EDT
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OP, could you clear your PM inbox? I would like to ask you something, unrelated to this thread. Thanks!!
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Posted: 1/27/2016 7:21:21 PM EDT
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Shockwave without a doubt.
Had the SB47 to begin with. You don't realize how bulky it is until you get the Shockwave. 
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Posted: 2/12/2016 10:56:30 PM EDT
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Shockwave without a doubt. Had the SB47 to begin with. You don't realize how bulky it is until you get the Shockwave. http://i.imgur.com/oqt6j7g.png What folding mechanism is that? |
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Posted: 3/7/2016 9:27:14 PM EDT
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Could anyone please tell me what muzzle device this is I've been looking for this one Thanks
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Posted: 3/7/2016 9:34:59 PM EDT
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my mini draco waiting on sbr form 1 <a href="http://s959.photobucket.com/user/joliandthai/media/20151127_205524_zpsehh2nkmx.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae74/joliandthai/20151127_205524_zpsehh2nkmx.jpg</a> What muzzle device is that? Thanks |
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Posted: 3/7/2016 10:01:00 PM EDT
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I picked this up for my PAP should have upgraded pictures of it soon. http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/component/virtuemart/shipping-accessories/sb-tactical-ak47-pistol-stabilizing-arm-brace-detail.html?Itemid=0
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Posted: 3/12/2016 6:58:45 AM EDT
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Sig brace. Extra weight in the back helps balance the gun out, makes it less nose-heavy.
Also, I refuse to use single-point slings. I don't like getting whacked in the nuts when I need to use my hands. |
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Posted: 3/14/2016 11:20:49 AM EDT
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Sig brace. Extra weight in the back helps balance the gun out, makes it less nose-heavy. Also, I refuse to use single-point slings. I don't like getting whacked in the nuts when I need to use my hands. +1 to both of these, I think my Draco balances better with my SB47. And I also prefer a two point sling, I've tried single point slings on several of my rifles and while they transition quickly they kinda suck when you're hiking in the woods all day, a two point setup is hands free. if you're adding a folder then it's a Shockwave, no question. |
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Posted: 7/21/2016 9:57:35 AM EDT
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my mini draco waiting on sbr form 1 <a href="http://s959.photobucket.com/user/joliandthai/media/20151127_205524_zpsehh2nkmx.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/ae74/joliandthai/20151127_205524_zpsehh2nkmx.jpg</a> What are the specs on that folder mechanism? |
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