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Posted: 7/8/2014 4:02:34 PM EDT
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That was my concern... anyone else make similar adapters that would work? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Looking at the pictures most of them look like they would be in the way of the stock. They had at least one that came off the left side but I'm not sure it was listed for these guns. That was my concern... anyone else make similar adapters that would work? Hell if I know. Other than a couple saigas these pistols are my first AK's. I bet if you contacted them they would know. Looked like decent quality stuff so I would imagine they have been around the block. |
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Posted: 7/9/2014 9:42:53 PM EDT
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Sven can I get some pics of the renegade from top down view with no top cover? and maybe one at a 45 degree angle top down view? trying to decide on whether I'll need a top cover
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Posted: 7/10/2014 12:37:09 AM EDT
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Sven can I get some pics of the renegade from top down view with no top cover? and maybe one at a 45 degree angle top down view? trying to decide on whether I'll need a top cover I will get some pictures up tomorrow. Sven Manticore Arms Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 7/10/2014 12:39:24 AM EDT
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If you guys want a sling mount similar to
The echo 93 types but that works on a Yugo PAP just let me know...Manticore is a firearms accessory design and manufacturung company after all ;) Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 7/10/2014 12:03:38 PM EDT
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Here is a picture showing the open top. Sven Manticore Arms |
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Posted: 7/10/2014 1:28:15 PM EDT
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Thank you....I would be in the category of end user that just wants an inexpensive poly top cover to seal the top. This, for me as well. I want the Renegade for its aesthetics and ergonomics, mainly. I plan to use an RFT mount for the RDS I'll eventually put on the gun. The idea that this pistol could be any more fun to shoot... 
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Posted: 7/10/2014 1:49:50 PM EDT
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so does the red dot mounted on top of the handguards co-witness?
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Posted: 7/10/2014 3:19:32 PM EDT
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so does the red dot mounted on top of the handguards co-witness? You will be able to see the iron sights in the lower 1/4 of the optics window Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 7/10/2014 3:20:56 PM EDT
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This, for me as well. I want the Renegade for its aesthetics and ergonomics, mainly. I plan to use an RFT mount for the RDS I'll eventually put on the gun. The idea that this pistol could be any more fun to shoot... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Thank you....I would be in the category of end user that just wants an inexpensive poly top cover to seal the top. This, for me as well. I want the Renegade for its aesthetics and ergonomics, mainly. I plan to use an RFT mount for the RDS I'll eventually put on the gun. The idea that this pistol could be any more fun to shoot... We are working on a top cover that will simply be for closure, just a matter of time and another mold ;) Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 7/10/2014 6:20:01 PM EDT
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We are working on a top cover that will simply be for closure, just a matter of time and another mold ;) Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Thank you....I would be in the category of end user that just wants an inexpensive poly top cover to seal the top. This, for me as well. I want the Renegade for its aesthetics and ergonomics, mainly. I plan to use an RFT mount for the RDS I'll eventually put on the gun. The idea that this pistol could be any more fun to shoot... We are working on a top cover that will simply be for closure, just a matter of time and another mold ;) Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Closure is always a good thing, helps with the healing process. 
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Posted: 7/10/2014 9:22:19 PM EDT
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Closure is always a good thing, helps with the healing process. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Thank you....I would be in the category of end user that just wants an inexpensive poly top cover to seal the top. This, for me as well. I want the Renegade for its aesthetics and ergonomics, mainly. I plan to use an RFT mount for the RDS I'll eventually put on the gun. The idea that this pistol could be any more fun to shoot... We are working on a top cover that will simply be for closure, just a matter of time and another mold ;) Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Closure is always a good thing, helps with the healing process. LOL! |
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Posted: 7/13/2014 10:40:25 PM EDT
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FYI, we have had a three or four people contact us saying the Renegade did not fit their gun. After a quick consultation we figured out what the issue was....
Make sure when you remove the wood handguard you ALSO REMOVE THE METAL REINFORCEMENT ON THE BACK OF THE WOOD HANDGUARD FROM THE GUN If you don't, you are indeed going to have a hell of a time getting the Renegade forearm to fit!!!! Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 7/14/2014 11:24:14 AM EDT
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FYI, we have had a three or four people contact us saying the Renegade did not fit their gun. After a quick consultation we figured out what the issue was.... Make sure when you remove the wood handguard you ALSO REMOVE THE METAL REINFORCEMENT ON THE BACK OF THE WOOD HANDGUARD FROM THE GUN If you don't, you are indeed going to have a hell of a time getting the Renegade forearm to fit!!!!
Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I figured out the same thing after staring at your pictures of the installed handguard for a few minutes. |
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Posted: 7/14/2014 12:31:25 PM EDT
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I figured out the same thing after staring at your pictures of the installed handguard for a few minutes. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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FYI, we have had a three or four people contact us saying the Renegade did not fit their gun. After a quick consultation we figured out what the issue was.... Make sure when you remove the wood handguard you ALSO REMOVE THE METAL REINFORCEMENT ON THE BACK OF THE WOOD HANDGUARD FROM THE GUN If you don't, you are indeed going to have a hell of a time getting the Renegade forearm to fit!!!!
Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I figured out the same thing after staring at your pictures of the installed handguard for a few minutes. For what it is worth, when you spend months and months working with a product sometimes things seem pretty obvious, but it might not be obvious to someone who has never handled the new product! It is known as developer's myopia, and even I am guilty of it sometimes.
We'll start putting a note in with the handguards so there is no more confusion in the future. I just wanted to put it here on the thread since a lot of guys who bought them were checking in here! 
FYI, if you ever have an issue with installation of any of our products, please feel free to email us at [email protected] and we will find a solution to whatever issue you are having! Sven Manticore Arms |
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Posted: 7/19/2014 8:24:35 AM EDT
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Anyone have a weight on the Manticore Arms Renegade forend as compared to the stock forend?
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Posted: 7/19/2014 12:05:17 PM EDT
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Anyone have a weight on the Manticore Arms Renegade forend as compared to the stock forend? OEM lower wood handgaurd 3.8 ounces OEM upper wood handguard 1.6 ounces Total: 5.4 ounces Manticore Renegade polymer forend 4.6 ounces Manticore Optics Mount Top Cover with mounting brackers 1.5 ounces Total: 6.1 ounces The whole setup is only a half ounce more than the OEM setup. and lets you mount an optic and still see the irons. If you are running the polymer lower only, it is actually lighter than the OEM setup.
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Posted: 7/19/2014 5:18:37 PM EDT
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It looks to me like the light mount is slotted into one of they keymod slots in the Renegade handguard... which would make it incompatible with the original wood lower handguard, right? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Please show us pics of the mount with the wood lower fore end in place... Mick It looks to me like the light mount is slotted into one of they keymod slots in the Renegade handguard... which would make it incompatible with the original wood lower handguard, right? If you're using the FF version, couldn't you use the ARCLight mounts holes left unused up top to mount the light mount to? |
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Posted: 7/20/2014 1:12:32 PM EDT
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If you're using the FF version, couldn't you use the ARCLight mounts holes left unused up top to mount the light mount to? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Please show us pics of the mount with the wood lower fore end in place... Mick It looks to me like the light mount is slotted into one of they keymod slots in the Renegade handguard... which would make it incompatible with the original wood lower handguard, right? If you're using the FF version, couldn't you use the ARCLight mounts holes left unused up top to mount the light mount to? You would not want to use the optics mount top plate in its current form with a standard wood lower. Technically it would fit, be it would look, quite honestly, not good. The light mount shown in previous pictures attaches to the ARC LOK slots on the upper right side of the handguard. It will not mount unless there are slots avaliable. The easy solution for both problems, of course, is just get the Renegade polymer lower and it will all mount up and look good. 
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Posted: 7/20/2014 2:57:09 PM EDT
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Can we get a new update on ETA of top mount?
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Posted: 7/20/2014 5:46:24 PM EDT
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Can we get a new update on ETA of top mount? Before the end of the month is the best I can give. It is currently in the anodizing shop and they have been very busy lately. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 7/20/2014 8:05:46 PM EDT
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Do you have a price in mind for the simple top cover for us guys that don't plan to mount a red dot? The lower handguard looks great, but really looks un-finished with no cover.
I am going to buy yours or brand X, and I am trying to keep overall cost down. Thanks, and I understand if it is too early to give a rough number. |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 5:06:18 PM EDT
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Do you have a price in mind for the simple top cover for us guys that don't plan to mount a red dot? The lower handguard looks great, but really looks un-finished with no cover. I am going to buy yours or brand X, and I am trying to keep overall cost down. Thanks, and I understand if it is too early to give a rough number. We don't have numbers yet on the top cover mold, and if I quote a ballpark of what I want it to be, someone will inevitably scream and holler if it is a penny over.
Give me to the end of the week and I should have a feel on a polymer top cover price, and a rough ETA. Sven Manticore Arms |
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Posted: 7/23/2014 7:07:50 PM EDT
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We have the design of the polymer top cover done, prices look good, prototypes in hand, and we will look at putting it into production. Pics and pricing shortly.
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Posted: 7/24/2014 3:24:00 AM EDT
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yay!!
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Posted: 8/8/2014 1:42:59 PM EDT
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I modified a cheap ak handguard from ebay by removing about 2mm of aluminum off the rear of the lower with a disc sander and re-beveled the edges with a file. I used some Birchwood-Casey aluminum black to touch up the raw aluminum after I was done. all in all it cost about $40 and looks great, mounts solid as a rock, just like the midwest industries mount. http://i415.photobucket.com/albums/pp238/jeffbeaux/m922.jpghttp://i415.photobucket.com/albums/pp238/jeffbeaux/m921.jpg
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Posted: 8/8/2014 2:25:16 PM EDT
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If it wasn't for that large gap on the top cover piece, it would be great.
Looks nice though. |
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Posted: 8/8/2014 9:13:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Manticore_Arms on 07-23-2014:
We have the design of the polymer top cover done, prices look good, prototypes in hand, and we will look at putting it into production. Pics and pricing shortly.
Sven Ahem......Day 15.....
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Posted: 8/8/2014 9:18:29 PM EDT
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Sven, any ETA on the top rails? My Burris FF 3 is pretty lonely here.
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Posted: 8/9/2014 9:34:02 AM EDT
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They will be available very soon, sorry for the delay.
Outside forces of the universe and all that... 
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Posted: 8/9/2014 9:35:10 AM EDT
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Ahem......Day 15.....
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Originally Posted By Manticore_Arms on 07-23-2014:
We have the design of the polymer top cover done, prices look good, prototypes in hand, and we will look at putting it into production. Pics and pricing shortly.
Sven Ahem......Day 15.....
Polymer top cover has gone through 4 revisions, trying to make sure it fits just right! |
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Posted: 8/9/2014 2:55:23 PM EDT
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I'm just giving you a hard time Sven.....I know you guys are working overtime and have lives and families outside of work just like the rest of us.
Besides, from the start of this thread to the time you got the Renegade fore arms out has been moving at light speed in terms of design, manufacturing, and production of anything firearms related...
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Posted: 8/9/2014 3:42:46 PM EDT
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I'm just giving you a hard time Sven.....I know you guys are working overtime and have lives and families outside of work just like the rest of us. Besides, from the start of this thread to the time you got the Renegade fore arms out has been moving at light speed in terms of design, manufacturing, and production of anything firearms related... Thanks for understanding.
We just keep growing and growing, and I only post pictures of a small fraction of the work we actually do. In addition to keeping the current stuff in stock, doing some OEM work (i.e. the AUG bipod and some other projects), and getting some new Tavor products ready to roll out we are also coordinating and managing the Bullpup Shoot 2014 event. Oh yeah, and working on getting product exported to some new foreign distributors we are working on setting up, working on a joint AK aluminum forearm project with AK Operators Union, and working with a local Sherrif's office to help develop some new products for their needs, and....well, you get the idea!
In point of fact I keep telling my new wife that there just isn't time to take a honeymoon this summer, but it appears that is just not going to fly. I may be forced to go on a trip here real soon.
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Posted: 8/9/2014 5:32:32 PM EDT
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LOL...
Some fights aren't worth even trying to fight. If the wife wants a honeymoon, best bet is to just roll with it. You might be able to delay it somewhat by telling her that you'll be able to spend more time together next year when you have more time available, and will be able to take a longer honeymoon if she can wait a little. Or she can have a short but fun honey moon this year....
Of course, you HAVE to deliver a fantastic honeymoon next year if she goes for it....just understand that, and start planning now. As much as I want the newest and greatest Manticore Arms products, your family comes first. |
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Posted: 8/11/2014 4:09:53 PM EDT
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Optics Mount Top Covers are finally back from anodizing, we are just sending some out to Beta Testers real quick to double check everything is still good to go, and then up for sale!!!!
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Posted: 8/11/2014 4:40:37 PM EDT
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Might just be a silly question, but can you run the mount without the handguard?
And do you have a pic with the hand guard off but mount on? |
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Posted: 8/11/2014 6:27:40 PM EDT
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Might just be a silly question, but can you run the mount without the handguard? And do you have a pic with the hand guard off but mount on? You could in theory, but it would look like ass - just a plate with two U-rings to hold it on the the gas tube. It was designed specifically for the Renegade.
Qe do have some ideas for one that works with the standard wood handguard, but it would be the same cost or more than an Ultimak, so I don't know if there is much of a market for it... Very busy at the moment, but will get pictures up tomorrow! Sven Manticore Arms |
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Posted: 8/14/2014 5:22:42 PM EDT
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Just got mine in the mail today. I only have a few minutes before heading off to work secondary, so no range trips yet....
Installation of the Burris Fast Fire 3 mount was easy and quick. Locks up SOLID. 
Gun is resting on a 5lb dumbbell in the 2nd picture....the edges of it are protruding slightly under the handguards.... I took these photo's with my Ipotato so not able to get a usable image of Sight Co Witness.....there is absolute co witness in the FF3 with this mount. Great work Sven! Hope you've got a lot ready to sell, cause you'll sell out quick with these! |
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Posted: 8/15/2014 9:31:58 AM EDT
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Don't worry, we have a sh*t ton of them ready for sale as soon as we get feedback from all the beta testers!
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Posted: 8/15/2014 11:01:49 AM EDT
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Don't worry, we have a sh*t ton of them ready for sale as soon as we get feedback from all the beta testers! So which red dogs will the first models cover? |
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Posted: 8/15/2014 1:27:08 PM EDT
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Don't worry, we have a sh*t ton of them ready for sale as soon as we get feedback from all the beta testers! So which red dogs will the first models cover? We will initially have two models - one for Burris Fastfires, and a second for Aimpoint Micro/Primary Arms Micro |
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Posted: 8/16/2014 11:50:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Don't worry, we have a sh*t ton of them ready for sale as soon as we get feedback from all the beta testers! Tell them to hurry it up. You already have Maxxll's endorsement, so that's good enough for me. I'm impatiently waiting here with my credit card in hand.  |
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Posted: 8/17/2014 12:19:43 AM EDT
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''MANTICORE ARMS WILL BE CLOSED FROM SATURDAY AUGUST 16TH UNTIL FRIDAY AUGUST 29TH WHILE MOST OF OUR STAFF IS OUT OF THE OFFICE. THE WEBSTORE WILL STILL BE OPEN TO TAKE ORDERS, AND ALL ORDERS WILL SHIP ON OR AFTER AUGUST 29TH.
IN THE MEANTIME, ENJOY FREE USPS PRIORITY SHIPPING FROM NOW UNTIL THE END OF AUGUST ON EVERYTHING IN STOCK ON THE WEBSITE!'' Sven is on vacation so I'm sure they won't be ready on the site for order until the 29th or 30th. A month later than expected. It is what it is, stuff happens. I can agree with you though I'm sick of looking at this money set aside for the top cover and cant wait to banish it from my wallet. |
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Posted: 8/17/2014 9:48:12 AM EDT
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Not just vacation, i am on my honeymoon in canada right now! :D The rest of the staff is either dealing with shop cleanup and invemtory or is out of the office too.
My wife has been very patient about waiting a couple of months on a honeymoon, and I dont want to disappoint her. This is also the first time I have taken off since I startrd the company over four years ago! No worries though, the top covers will be up on the website as soon as I am back in the shop, and I appreciaye everyone being so patient :) Sven Manticore Arms (From my personal account in Niagara Falls!) Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 8/17/2014 12:07:52 PM EDT
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Sven,
Quit surfing the board....Enjoy your honeymoon. Happy wife means you get more time in the shop making us fun toys... So go have fun with you wife... It really is in our best interest. |
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Posted: 8/17/2014 9:40:36 PM EDT
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Mine's in :D |
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Posted: 8/20/2014 8:53:38 PM EDT
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I need one of these. Adding an Aimpoint will change this thing entirely and bring a whole new meaning for home defense pistol
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Posted: 8/21/2014 3:59:25 AM EDT
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"IN THE MEANTIME, ENJOY FREE USPS PRIORITY SHIPPING FROM NOW UNTIL THE END OF AUGUST ON EVERYTHING IN STOCK ON THE WEBSITE!"
Could you do us a huge favor Sven? Since it is impossible for us to add the top cover to cart and place an order to take advantage of your free shipping. Would you be so kind as to either add a promo code for free shipping with the top cover or extend site wide free shipping an extra week? |
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Posted: 8/21/2014 7:08:01 AM EDT
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"IN THE MEANTIME, ENJOY FREE USPS PRIORITY SHIPPING FROM NOW UNTIL THE END OF AUGUST ON EVERYTHING IN STOCK ON THE WEBSITE!" Could you do us a huge favor Sven? Since it is impossible for us to add the top cover to cart and place an order to take advantage of your free shipping. Would you be so kind as to either add a promo code for free shipping with the top cover or extend site wide free shipping an extra week? +1 |
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Posted: 8/21/2014 6:13:39 PM EDT
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It would be Great if there were a Top Cover that had a provision to mount a picatinny rail. I have my Aimpoint Micro on a QD American Defense mount that I use on my FAL but would love to just be able to attach to the top cover of my Manticore handguard. I do realize this would prevent any co-witness but I am not really interested in that if the mount is quick detach.
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Posted: 8/21/2014 9:39:48 PM EDT
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It would be Great if there were a Top Cover that had a provision to mount a picatinny rail. I have my Aimpoint Micro on a QD American Defense mount that I use on my FAL but would love to just be able to attach to the top cover of my Manticore handguard. I do realize this would prevent any co-witness but I am not really interested in that if the mount is quick detach. Picatinny Optics Mount Top Covers are already designed along with some other models, we just want to get these first models launched that co-witness and then the picatinny model should be next. |
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