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Gardner
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Posted: 6/27/2010 11:41:16 AM
[Last Edit: 6/28/2010 3:06:20 PM by Gardner]
Just under 3 months for the stamp.

Previously mounted the Ultimak bottom rail (short version), the Ultimak standard gas tube rail (shortened mod) and the ACE AR grip adapter with modified MAID grip.
Also a MI sling mount on the rail and a Krebs UNI mount
I also added a notch in the safety lever to hold the bolt open. (nice for ranges and matches)

I had an unused CTR/Buffer tube/Magpul ASAP sling plate and castle nut so I figured I try out the ACE Integrated AR15 stock mount.
I've used the standard ACE folders in the past and while they worked fine, I wanted to try something a little different since I had the parts in the garage.

For those who are going to use and ACE folding mount- The supplied bolts from ACE are 5mm/.80 TP.
I used a tap and drill bit from ACE Hardware. Nothing fancy.
I used a IRWIN 5mm-0.80 tap set with corresponding IRWIN #19 tap drill bit.
I marked one hole and drilled it with the DRACO hanging in a vice(wood pads).
The standard drill bit(not a bit for hardened steel) cut quickly with a cordless drill.
Tapping the hole should be a 1/4 turn affair then back out- start over and with lots of oil. It took about 15 min per hole to tap.
Go slow, too fast and you risk breaking the tap off in the hole.(Higher quality taps will resist this)
Marking the second hole is much easier once the assembly is mounted temporarily.

This mount is a one finger open/close and locks open very securely as all ACE mounts do.
I'm a lefty and while the stock is folded I can use the pistol just like the stock is not there- it interferes none whatsoever.


Some pics for comparison- M16 10.5 SBR and Draco SBR.
Its basically the same length as a 10.5"AR SBR. It just weighs twice as much.





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Posted: 6/27/2010 12:04:06 PM
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Posted: 6/27/2010 12:25:53 PM
That is totally sick. That temps me to build a clone but I am in too deep on 5.45 and .223 to pick up another calibre...
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Posted: 6/27/2010 3:19:32 PM
I had zero interest in getting a Draco, ZERO. Now I have to have one like yours. I thank you, but my wallet says you're a dick.

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Posted: 6/27/2010 7:10:57 PM
Originally Posted By dano357:


Ruff ruff.

Awwwwuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu!

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Nice bad ass boom stick.
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Posted: 6/27/2010 7:11:01 PM
Nice build, that's pretty much the look I'm going for. What would you say you have in it? Where's the best price on the Ultimak gear?
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Posted: 6/27/2010 9:40:55 PM
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Posted: 6/27/2010 10:37:06 PM
[Last Edit: 6/28/2010 9:59:23 AM by Gardner]
Um, Its expensive. Don't remind me. But its what I wanted, a SBR AK in 7.62.

Primary Arms has really good prices for Ultimak gear. Marshall is a good dude.

A Krinkov would have been ideal, but finding one in 7.62 has been a pain and kit builds with rivets and presses were really out of reach for me.

In the end though ,this was a fun build with something a little different. I hope to see more variations of the Draco SBR around here.
Lots of different options nowadays, almost like building an AR.

My Stock setup is about 2' longer than I'd like, I could lose 3/4" with the enhanced butt pad but its so cushy and nice I'll leave it on for now. As it is, it's a couple inches shorter than the classic triangle AK folder(like on a krinkov)
Notice where the front latch would be on the receiver.


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Posted: 6/28/2010 12:31:32 AM
great idea for the sling plate, and beautiful rig!
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Posted: 6/28/2010 10:05:39 AM
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I think I just wet myself

OMG Dude, that is one awesome SBR. I've been tossing the idea around and put her on hold to get my 10.5 AR papered, but this is really cool!

Dude, you have got to post this bad boy in the Class 3 section. Both in the SBR and the Other Than AR SBRs
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Posted: 6/28/2010 10:51:02 AM
Dear baby jesus that is pure tits.
I know you said you used the short model ultimak gas tube, however i believe the shorties come in a few different flavors now. An AMD version and a Krink version. Which one did you get?
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Posted: 6/28/2010 11:11:09 AM
I've never cared for AR stocks or railed HGs on AKs. They just don't look "right" to me.











In this case, I must say that you've changed my mind. That looks SO "RIGHT"!

If going for a SBR this would be choice. I just can't justify the expense or the restriction in my case, but I do like that rifle.
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Posted: 6/28/2010 12:09:30 PM
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Masterbeef,

Its the standard length gas tube cut down about an inch. Its not hard to do.
If you look close at the pic with the stock folded, you can see I left the full length of the rail on the gas tube. I just cut off the lower portion of the front of the tube to get it to fit.
The AMD will work fine but its about 3/8" too short for my liking. The gap will be at the rear or front depending on the way you mount it.
The Krinkov version will be way too short.




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Posted: 6/28/2010 12:09:39 PM
Damn, going to have to sit here for a little bit before I get up ;).

haha.
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Posted: 6/28/2010 12:12:30 PM


Can you post a link to that rail? I can't seem to find it any where...

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Posted: 6/28/2010 12:12:34 PM
This has changed my mind about putting AR stocks on an AK. That is a thing of beauty.
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Posted: 6/28/2010 12:13:07 PM
Are you going to put a can on it?
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Posted: 6/28/2010 12:14:31 PM
really really nice!
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Posted: 6/28/2010 12:26:00 PM
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Originally Posted By The_Commodore:
Are you going to put a can on it?


If I get one I would want to suppress it, but I have questions and I hope I've worded this question so it makes sense...

Is there a good chance the factory threaded barrel will be concentric with the bore on these Draco pistols?

Also, is the barrel threaded Left Hand 14 X 1M?

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Posted: 6/28/2010 1:41:28 PM
I have a draco in the closet that's gonna look a lot like yours when I am done. I hope you take imitation as a compliment. That is the best looking AK I think I have ever seen. Looks fantastic.
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Posted: 6/28/2010 1:57:20 PM
Sooooooooooooooooooooo Ausoooooooooooooooooooommmmmmmmeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

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Posted: 6/28/2010 2:20:21 PM
Form 4 inbound. 7.62 Phantom w/QD 14x1 FH

And yes..if the threads are not concentric then there is not much you can do on a Draco. I'll keep my fingers crossed.

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Posted: 6/28/2010 8:24:33 PM
Originally Posted By mustangduckk:

Can you post a link to that rail? I can't seem to find it any where...



+1. I'm looking on the PA website and it's getting worse...
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Posted: 6/28/2010 8:51:25 PM
Is the stock adapter for commercial tubes only?
Very nice BTW.
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Posted: 6/28/2010 9:11:43 PM
SCHWEEEEET!
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Posted: 6/28/2010 9:47:05 PM
[Last Edit: 6/28/2010 11:28:29 PM by Gardner]
ACE AR Stock adapters can use comm or mil tubes. Threads are same for both.

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