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Very nice!
(I just ordered one of these things –– not sure yet what I will do to it.) |
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Very nice! Thank you!
And all this time, I live/work just a few miles from Midwest Industries and never knew it. |
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Can we post now?
Stomp, you win for photographic effort. Project turned out very nice. Congratulations. |
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I don't always get to the range, but when I do, I prefer Dos AKs.
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Yes, everyone can post away! I was working on the continuity of the build.
My lovely wife took all the pic's last night at 11:00pm. She's a good sport! Im very happy with the turn out of the gun. Im kicking around the idea of SBR stamp |
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Way to go, STOMP!
Thanks for posting this thread. That is a very nice, very MEAN looking Draco! One quick question, if you use the MI railed handguard can you still use the stock sights or is the top rail too tall? I like the tactical look but I'm not sure I want to go with a dot sight........ decisions decisions |
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Yes your wife is a very good sport, and thank her from us all for her fine picture skills. I wouldn't be crude like other areas in this site and demand pics of her - but I would bet that she indeed is very lovely and a real winner.
Thank you Mrs. Stomp! He couldn't have done this without you. |
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I don't always get to the range, but when I do, I prefer Dos AKs.
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Good thread!
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Originally Posted By stomp:
I would like to add that I used "Birchwood Casey" flat black gun touch up paint pen for nicks and what-not. It works great and it almost matches the factory Draco finish. http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n304/stomp13/AK%20build/IMG_1953.jpg Great thread I enjoyed it, nice pics btw. Out of curiosity why didn't you use some duct tape or electrical tape to cover the needle nose pliers so you didn't have to scrap up the rifle and touch it up with paint Seems to me if you took the extra step to prevent from scratching the rifle you wouldn't have to fix something that didn't need to be damaged. |
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What flash suppressor did you use? Looks like an RPK flash suppressor.
EDIT: Reading is fundamental. I see that now. Thanks, Rob |
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Originally Posted By stomp:
<snip> Big Tony: Yes, you can still use the stock sights. BUT with the Micro Dot you can not co-witness <snip> If I remember correctly, if a guy goes with a Ultimak gas tube/top rail & an Aimpoint Micro (or cheaper knock off version), it will co witness. But I don't know if you can use a Ultimak gas tube/top rail with a MI lower railed handguard. I suppose if a guy were handy with a Dremel, he could trim down that center clamp that comes with the MI set-up. Or a guy could just go the easy route & get a Ultimak lower railed handguard. |
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"For one thing is quite certain, if You simply sit still, in the belief that the fire is still far from Your borders: Your lands will become the theater on which the tragedy is played out."
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If I remember correctly, if a guy goes with a Ultimak gas tube/top rail & an Aimpoint Micro (or cheaper knock off version), it will co witness. But I don't know if you can use a Ultimak gas tube/top rail with a MI lower railed handguard. I suppose if a guy were handy with a Dremel, he could trim down that center clamp that comes with the MI set-up. Or a guy could just go the easy route & get a Ultimak lower railed handguard. Yes, with the Ultimak gas tube you can co-witness with Micro Dot/ Clones. I am alittle bummed that I cant co-witness. I think Im going to buy a quick release mount for my red dot, so if need be I can get back to irons. |
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Stomp, thats for the excellent pictomentry!! I have my grips, furniture, and slant muzzle break on it's way. I will have to post some pics, but not up to THAT level! Great job and it looks cool.
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WOW "Gardner", thanks so much for the info! What a great fix for this issue! I just ordered. Thanks again!
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badass looking!! I'm still trying to figure out how to install a rear sling adpt. on this thing???? without it looking like billy bob pulled it out of his footlocker!
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TAG THIS THREAD! We need more informative posts like this tagged in the AK pistol forum!
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Just wanted to add that I like the hand motions and gestures you captured in the pictures. You should get a job with the Home Shopping Network! Just kidding, man. Can't stop re-visiting this thread, trying to work up the nerve to go on and order that rail, and some other things to get started on mine.
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Exellent pics and tutorials! I was going to document my build today but no need now.
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Violent1: Im still working on ideas for a sling mount. But check out the "Options for attaching a sling" in this forum.
Makak47: If the powers to be want to make this a "sticky" I would be honored Grim: I watched alot of Wheel of Fortune, and watched Vanna's hand work before posting Marty: Please post your own. As stated in my post, Im no pro and that I have never even work on a Draco/AK before. Im sure you can add something else, better imput, etc. |
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I vote for a tack.
Just hit the report button, and say "Request a tack" - or IM VA-Gunnut, and request... |
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I don't always get to the range, but when I do, I prefer Dos AKs.
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Originally Posted By Hedonist:
I vote for a tack. Just hit the report button, and say "Request a tack" - or IM VA-Gunnut, and request... SWEET! Im Tacked! Thanks everyone. |
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Hey Stomp, Does the top part of the rail system have to be un-bolted to remove the gas tube for cleaning ??
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Yes, you must remove the four screws to remove and clean the gas tube.
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I thought so. Thanks man. Sharp pistol.
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Originally Posted By AK74play:
Sharp pistol. Thank you. I have a new optic mount (quick release) coming today. I'll update the thread when I get it mounted. |
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Originally Posted By stomp:
I have a new optic mount (quick release) coming today. I'll update the thread when I get it mounted. Crap! nevermind. The quick release "Gardner" posted WILL NOT fit the Primary Arms Micro clone. Im sad now |
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I certainly understand, but it will pass. The next new little discovery or invention that does work will make all good again and these memories will fade. No matter how you look at it, it's still a sharp pistol and no one can deny that. Just be patient.......
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Originally Posted By stomp:
Originally Posted By stomp:
I have a new optic mount (quick release) coming today. I'll update the thread when I get it mounted. Crap! nevermind. The quick release "Gardner" posted WILL NOT fit the Primary Arms Micro clone. Im sad now Sounds like a good excuse to buy an Aimpoint. Or at least that's what the logic that goes on in my head would tell me to do. |
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"For one thing is quite certain, if You simply sit still, in the belief that the fire is still far from Your borders: Your lands will become the theater on which the tragedy is played out."
- Friedrich Wilhelm I, Elector of Brandenburg, 1667 |
Originally Posted By Gone_Shootin:
Sounds like a good excuse to buy an Aimpoint. Or at least that's what the logic that goes on in my head would tell me to do. It was the first thing that come to my mind when the kit didnt work on the clone. "Crap, time to buy a real Micro" |
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Stomp,
Your data/photos are great. Thanks a lot for the info. I noticed that your posted a pic of a Draco w/a VZ58 folder. I'm curious is you have any better pics on how it attaches to the Draco. I'd really like to SBR mine, but am undecided on whether to use the typical bolt on US folder or use the VZ. I'm thinking the VZ looks better and mounts with less material sticking out the back? I(If you understand what i mean). It appears the VZ attaches with a single bolt? So just drill and tap? Thanks |
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Originally Posted By v188:
Stomp, I noticed that your posted a pic of a Draco w/a VZ58 folder. I'm curious is you have any better pics on how it attaches to the Draco. I'd really like to SBR mine, but am undecided on whether to use the typical bolt on US folder or use the VZ. I'm thinking the VZ looks better and mounts with less material sticking out the back? I(If you understand what i mean). It appears the VZ attaches with a single bolt? So just drill and tap? Thanks You need to do two things to attach the VZ58 folder. Drill and tap a hole for the 12mm x 1mm bolt and "mill" a slot for the tab on the folders mount. You can buy the stock from czechpoint usa. Its the whole kit, mount, bolt, stock. |
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Thanks,
I found they were selling them and order the kit today. The lady said they just put them on the web this week and they're selling like crazy. I'm guessing that this little forum is diriving sales? LOL |
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Anybody else have that quick release from Aimpoint? Curious if it might fit a Sig mini-dot?
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Stomp thank you for your informative thread, it was a great help to me in the disassembly process!
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No problem! Im glad it helped.
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How did I miss this thread? Awesome write up... Thank You.
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Stomp,
Thank you sir!! Here's mine all "Stomped" up. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d197/Narsil007/IMG_3254.jpg http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d197/Narsil007/IMG_3259.jpg I'll be covering the unused rails with some OD ladder rail covers, putting a VMG on my two mags, replacing the holosight with a Vortex Sparc, and replacing the paracord with a webbed sidelock buckle. I don't think I would have discovered the MI rail until I'd bought another without this thread so, again, thank you! We need a salute smiley. |
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No Problem, Im glad to help. Narsil ( as in the sword?) I've had one of those Bushnells on my AR for almost 10yrs. Its been great to me! But it looks too tall/heavy on the Draco
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Stomp, you're the first person in the ten plus years I've been using "Narsil" as a screen name that got it right off! I was a fan long before the movies came out and am not a fan of the movies.
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Stomp, Nice build did you have a gap on the upper hand guard on the gas tube or did the upper piece fit in tight? are you looking at any folding stocks,under folder or bulgie side folder wich one do you think would be easier to install?
Thanks great work |
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Originally Posted By Bigarfan:
Stomp, Nice build did you have a gap on the upper hand guard on the gas tube or did the upper piece fit in tight? are you looking at any folding stocks,under folder or bulgie side folder wich one do you think would be easier to install? Thanks great work The M.I. grip is nice and tight. as for stocks. The under folder style would be to much work (but can be done), your better off just buying a under folder. Same for Bulgie side folder. The ACE folders seem very nice and the VZ58 folder looks very nice indeed. Check out the SBR thread. |
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Thanks for the great instruction. Just built a similar one based on your directions alone. Very sharp looking.
A couple of observations: the cleaning rod will fit back in and is really tight. I had a hard time with the front sling look lever. Loosened it fine, but can't turn it back. I made sure I'm in the grove, but it simply won't turn. It started to bend so I just left it. Its on real tight, just wouldn't bend back to where it was. Lastly, I chose a directional suppressor. Had a real hard time getting it on. I used an iron rod to stick through the holes of the suppressor to turn it into position. I thought I'd strip the thread. It's on real tight and is not coming off. Thanks again for the great instructions. |
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Originally Posted By CSJim:
A couple of observations: the cleaning rod will fit back in and is really tight. I had a hard time with the front sling look lever. Loosened it fine, but can't turn it back. I made sure I'm in the grove, but it simply won't turn. It started to bend so I just left it. Its on real tight, just wouldn't bend back to where it was. Lastly, I chose a directional suppressor. Had a real hard time getting it on. I used an iron rod to stick through the holes of the suppressor to turn it into position. I thought I'd strip the thread. It's on real tight and is not coming off. Thanks again for the great instructions. Im glad to help! I got my cleaning rod back in also, but it worked itself off durning shooting. I just leave it off now. It took me acouple of times to get the sling cam lock to lay flat. |
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agriebel, thats a nice looking gun! Funny thing is just last night durning the Eagles game I was playing with my Draco and put the "OEM" barrel nut back on......I didnt care for it. What problems are you having with your barrel nut?
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