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Posted: 2/1/2010 11:55:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/24/2013 1:15:02 PM EDT by haLfLiFe]
Romanian Draco Models ("C" / Non-"C" / Mini / Champion)

Last dealers who had the Draco series in stock with prices/dates:

Atlantic Firearms Out of stock as of 2/25/2012
Comes w/ (1) 30rnd Mag, Cleaning Rod
1@ $449.00]
Mini Draco comes w/ (1) 30rnd Mag Out of stock as of 2/25/12
1@ $525.00

Bud's Gun Shop Out of stock as of 4/20/2011
Comes w/ (1) 5rnd Mag
1@ $364.00 and 1@ $407.00
Mini Draco comes w/ (2) 30rnd Mags Out of stock as of 2/8/12
1@ $535.00
Draco Champion Out of stock as of 9/3/2011
Comes w/ (1) 30rnd Mag
1@ $389.99

Class 3 Weapons Out of stock as of 2/25/2012
Comes w/ (1) 10rnd or 30rnd Mag
1@ $463.92



Bulgarian Pistols

Atlantic Firearms Out of stock as of 7/16/13
SLR106U-47 (5.56x45) Comes w/ (1) 5rnd Mag, sling, oil bottle & cleaning kit
1@ $889.00

Impact Guns Out of stock as of 12/22/12
SLR106U-47 (5.56x45) Comes w/ (1) 30rnd Mag, sling & case
1@ $927.06

Slick Guns Out of stock as of 12/22/12
SLR106U-47 (5.56x45) Comes w/ (1) 30rnd Mag, sling & case
1@ $745.00 w/ Free Shipping



PAP M92 PV

Atlantic Firearms In stock as of 7/14/13
Comes w/ (2) 30rnd magazines
1@ $679.00

Impact Guns In stock as of 4/20/13
Comes w/ (1) 30rnd magazine
1@ $960.00

Buds Gun Shop Out of stock as of 10/4/12
Comes w/ (2) 30rnd magazines
1@ $599.00 w/ free shipping

Cheaper Than Dirt In stock as of 4/20/13
Comes w/ (2) 30rnd magazines and cleaning rod
1@ $725.64

Cope's Distributing Out of stock as of 8/15/12
Comes w/ ???
1@ $569.99

J&G Sales In stock of stock as of 1/18/13
Comes w/ (1) 30rnd magazine
1@ $499.95

Orion Arms Corp Out of stock as of 9/5/12
Comes w/ (1 or 2) 30rnd magazines
1@ $599.95

Semper Fi Supply Out of stock as of 1/18/13
Comes w/ ?
1@ $930.00

Widener's Out of stock as of 6/19/13
Comes w/ (2) 30rnd magazines
1@ $629.99



PAP M85 PV

Atlantic Firearms In stock as of 4/9/13
Comes w/ (2) 30rnd magazines
1@ $699.00

Cope's Distributing In stock as of 4/20/13
Comes w/ (1) 30rnd magazine
1@ $799.00

SOG International Out of stock as of 1/18/13
Comes w/ (2) 30rnd magazine and cleaning rod
1@ $695.00

J&G Sales In stock as of 1/18/13
Comes w/ (1) 30rnd magazine
1@ $399.95

Classic Firearms In stock as of 4/20/13
Comes w/ (1) 30rnd magazine
1@ $399.95



Inter Ordnance Hellpup

Atlantic Firearms In stock as of 4/20/13
Comes w/ (1) 30rnd magazine and lifetime warrenty. Made in the USA
1@ $699.00


Centurion 39 Sporter

J&G Sales In stock as of 1/18/13
Comes w/ (1) 30rnd magazine and Bulldog tactical nylon case
1@ $769.95

Shark Coast Tactical Out of stock as of 7/14/13
Comes w/ (2) 30rnd magazines and Bulldog Tactical nylon case
1@ $1,349.00
Link Posted: 2/2/2010 12:54:15 AM EDT
Here in Seattle you can get them at Surplus Ammo and Arms for $400, mine came with cleaning kit, cleaning rod, two 30-round mags. Great company to do business with, and you can pick up cheap high-quality ammo at the same time.
Link Posted: 2/2/2010 2:11:04 AM EDT
I think you forgot Atlantic Firearms.


Atlantic Draco
Link Posted: 2/2/2010 2:29:50 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/2/2010 2:30:03 AM EDT by haLfLiFe]
Originally Posted By tkopp:
Here in Seattle you can get them at Surplus Ammo and Arms for $400


They don't offer the Draco for sale on their website, so I cannot put them on the list of potential dealers.
Link Posted: 2/2/2010 2:30:29 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/2/2010 2:30:38 AM EDT by haLfLiFe]
Originally Posted By MrMONEYman:
I think you forgot Atlantic Firearms.


Atlantic Draco


Added
Link Posted: 2/2/2010 3:08:13 AM EDT
The one I just picked up from Centerfire Systems came with: an Owner's Manual,1 30rnd magazine, cleaning kit, and a free HK cleaning kit in a green plastic box.
Link Posted: 2/2/2010 10:47:55 AM EDT
Originally Posted By BigTony:
The one I just picked up from Centerfire Systems came with: an Owner's Manual,1 30rnd magazine, cleaning kit, and a free HK cleaning kit in a green plastic box.


Updated
Link Posted: 2/2/2010 7:37:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/3/2010 3:38:05 PM EDT by haLfLiFe]
Thanks GoatBoy for tacking this....
Link Posted: 2/4/2010 3:44:57 PM EDT
Called Cheaper Than Dirt on 2-3-10. They want $499.99. Don't sound cheaper than dirt to me
Link Posted: 2/4/2010 4:25:24 PM EDT
Yeah, Cheaper than Dirt never amazes me at the prices they charge . Never the less I will put them on the list of potential dealers.
Link Posted: 2/5/2010 2:45:59 AM EDT
Originally Posted By bikeman543:
Called Cheaper Than Dirt on 2-3-10. They want $499.99. Don't sound cheaper than dirt to me


I looked all over their website this evening and could not find it anywhere, might you be able to hook us up with a link
Link Posted: 2/8/2010 3:00:43 PM EDT
Classic has pulled them off the main page. They've been out-of-stock since last week.

buk
Link Posted: 2/8/2010 5:17:29 PM EDT
Originally Posted By bukowski548:
Classic has pulled them off the main page. They've been out-of-stock since last week.

buk


Yeah I just found out on Friday they have not updated their website until.....well just now basically. I ordered a K31 and tried to order an AK under folder and they were out of the under folder even though their website said otherwise. Sometimes they can't keep up with updating their website in a timely fashion.
Link Posted: 2/8/2010 9:58:44 PM EDT
Centerfire said they expected a shipment in about 1-2 weeks when I pre-ordered/back-ordered mine, and were pretty sure of it. There's always a chance they'd get shorted on their order of course. Classic told me essentially the same thing.

If you're thinking of getting one, a pre-order seems about as certain as it gets, orders with cash, check or a CC on them will go out first.
Link Posted: 2/9/2010 1:45:08 AM EDT
halflife,
I didn't see them on the web-site either so I called. I was sure I had seen them in the store before. So, the price I got was over the phone.
Link Posted: 2/9/2010 10:17:56 PM EDT
a friend of mine in California says they are selling for $550 at Riflegear. Is that a good price considering they are $350-450 everywhere else since it's CALIFORNIA?
Link Posted: 2/9/2010 11:41:38 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Rebellious:
a friend of mine in California says they are selling for $550 at Riflegear. Is that a good price considering they are $350-450 everywhere else since it's CALIFORNIA?


I looked all over the place and didn't see a Draco for sale. $550 might be a good deal since I am assuming it will have a fixed mag. I have not seen a CA legal Draco yet. Tell your friend to get on here and post a pic, and maybe a link to where riflegear sells it so I can add it to the dealers list....
Link Posted: 2/10/2010 3:56:52 PM EDT
I got my Draco a couple weeks ago, for $453.63 for the gun and 80 rds of some surplus ammo. I went into the gun shop looking for maybe a new Glock. I saw the Draco and it forced me to take it home. I put a bipod on the front, which also doubles as a front grip. That thing is a blast!! Bill in W. Michigan
Link Posted: 2/10/2010 4:59:24 PM EDT
I paid $399 out the door at a local shop. It looks like a run-of-the-mill Draco with the unfinished furniture and muzzle nut very slightly welded on. The sights are straight and it seems as well made as any eastern European AK.



Rob

Link Posted: 2/10/2010 6:35:02 PM EDT
Glad to see more newcomers, it's really good to see so many jumping on board for one.
Link Posted: 2/13/2010 9:34:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/13/2010 9:39:21 PM EDT by CaptWillard]
I just ordered one at 329.00 at centerfire systems. Can't beat that price with a stick!
I wonder if they charge your card before they have them or do they wait for them to be ready to ship before charging the card?
Been a busy gun buyer lately and could use a breather on the plastic before it melts down.
Anyone know?
Link Posted: 2/13/2010 10:00:53 PM EDT
AFAIK, it is against the law to charge you card in advance of shipment and this is not a special order item that they could not sell if you backed out of the order. They have not charged my card at this point and I am almost at the 2 week point since placing the order.
Link Posted: 2/13/2010 11:22:03 PM EDT
Originally Posted By oliverb:
AFAIK, it is against the law to charge you card in advance of shipment and this is not a special order item that they could not sell if you backed out of the order. They have not charged my card at this point and I am almost at the 2 week point since placing the order.


I don't see it being a law because anytime I order a rifle/pistol from AIM or Classicarms they tell me there is no charge on your card until your item ships.

BTW who did you order from
Link Posted: 2/21/2010 6:19:29 PM EDT
Crap...Centerfire systems now shows out of stock (we knew that) and now states backorder not available...uhoh...I ordered when backorders were available hope I made the cut!!
Link Posted: 2/21/2010 9:00:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/21/2010 9:05:09 PM EDT by oliverb]
Yep, I think we made the cut. My order dates back to 1/26. I communicated with them by e-mail late last week and they responded that I was still in the cue and my Draco would ship when they were back in stock but no date known. If you log in you can check the status of your order - it should be listed as "Confirmed".
Link Posted: 2/21/2010 9:11:15 PM EDT
halflife,
Ordered from Centerfire. Yeah, pretty certain about it being a law because some of the big boys (Sears, etc.) got in trouble some years ago when they would charge a person's card for an item backordered and the person would be billed interest each cycle even when they had not received their merchandise. They were required to refund the money - this happened to me. Now, can't say for certain if it is a Federal law or a law in the specific state where I lived at the time.
Link Posted: 2/21/2010 9:35:15 PM EDT
Just double checked...I'm confirmed as well!!
Wonder if this means the distributor limited the available pistols to each dealer because there isn't enough to go around?
Otherwise why not keep taking backorders?
Glad I got off the fence at the last minute and ordered!
Link Posted: 2/23/2010 11:01:50 AM EDT
I spoke with centerfire, and they said they had over 400 backorders! Thats why they stopped taking any more orders until they get those shipped out, but they believed they had more than enough coming.
Link Posted: 2/23/2010 11:06:28 AM EDT
Originally Posted By DBoone:
I spoke with centerfire, and they said they had over 400 backorders!


Man, that's a lot of back orders....
Link Posted: 2/23/2010 11:29:43 AM EDT
Not surprised at the number of backorders. These guns have suddenly become very popular for a couple of reasons. Myself, I am not interested in using it to convert to an SBR or AOW, just to appreciate it for the fun "pistol" it is. I'll dress it up with a custom rear swivel, sling, Hogue pistol grip and may change the color of the wood but other than that I just want to enjoy it and have fun. Might add a drum just for kicks. Not really very practical but they sure are neat looking on a Draco. Got all my accessories on hand, just waiting for the pistol. No telling how long but I hope it is here within the next couple of weeks.
Link Posted: 2/23/2010 3:14:41 PM EDT
I sure wish they would bring some 5.56 chambered ones in...............
Link Posted: 2/23/2010 3:46:25 PM EDT
I hope that they have the canted sight (front&rear) problem solved. I ordered on 2/3/2010 , and i can't wait to do a little shooting with it.
Link Posted: 2/23/2010 9:12:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/23/2010 9:18:19 PM EDT by SnoProG]

I just got on the list with centerfire. I did not ask them how long it would take to get to me. Anyone have a clue about that. Isn't if funny how having to wait for something you really want is so hard to do. Sure, I could go on GB and pay over $400. I'll wait and use the savings on 20 rd mags.

I was also thinking that it would be cool of someone came out with a lower forend that had finger grips to help holding onto the thing. Something just a little bit fatter and grooved.



Link Posted: 2/25/2010 3:36:29 PM EDT
Wow. I just noticed that J&G's shipping is ridiculous. $50 for the first, then an additional $30 for every other one? I haven't checked all the others shipping, but that seems out of line.

buk
Link Posted: 2/25/2010 4:46:12 PM EDT
I hear ya, $50 is out of line. I believe the 2 I bought from Classicarms seperatly were about $33 and they came with 2 mags.
Link Posted: 2/27/2010 10:43:03 PM EDT
Peach State Guns shows in stock at this time, $389.99. I am going to wait for Centerfire but considering what some are asking $390 isn't too bad.
Link Posted: 3/1/2010 11:43:06 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/4/2010 12:44:01 PM EDT by DBoone]
Centerfire shipped my Draco this week, been on backorder for 3 weeks or so. Picked it up today! 3/4/10. Great condition, straight sites, straight gas piston! Woohoo!
Link Posted: 3/1/2010 12:56:06 PM EDT
Originally Posted By elundgren:
Peach State Guns shows in stock at this time, $389.99. I am going to wait for Centerfire but considering what some are asking $390 isn't too bad.


Added
Link Posted: 3/1/2010 1:19:14 PM EDT
DBoone,
Great news!! Should be getting notice for mine. Order date was 1/26/10.
Link Posted: 3/1/2010 8:10:31 PM EDT
Sweet!
I'll be waiting to hear soon I hope!
Link Posted: 3/6/2010 7:45:38 PM EDT
Back in stock at classic!!! $350


buk
Link Posted: 3/8/2010 10:54:38 AM EDT
Originally Posted By bukowski548:
Back in stock at classic!!! $350


buk


Still in stock, just ordered one, Best Price I could find, and they said they would check the sites for free, without the $10.00 hand pick fee.
Link Posted: 3/8/2010 11:28:04 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Bandit68:
Originally Posted By bukowski548:
Back in stock at classic!!! $350


buk


Still in stock, just ordered one, Best Price I could find, and they said they would check the sites for free, without the $10.00 hand pick fee.


This is exactly why I don't see a need for the handpick option.
Link Posted: 3/8/2010 7:34:30 PM EDT
I paid the $10.00 Hand Select about 4 minutes ago ... and I bought the $9.95 T shirt. ha
Link Posted: 3/8/2010 10:47:54 PM EDT
Originally Posted By ThePsychologist:
I paid the $10.00 Hand Select about 4 minutes ago ... and I bought the $9.95 T shirt. ha


Was your hand select on a Draco
Link Posted: 3/9/2010 7:45:52 AM EDT
Yes Hand Select on the Draco. Although I have been lucky with my on-line purchases, after reading dozens of complaints posted about "cantedness" I decided the $10 may be cheap insurance.
Link Posted: 3/9/2010 2:56:16 PM EDT
Helpful lady at Centerfire just told me they got in a shipment, it's getting received/entered into inventory. (Never thought about the work of doing the bound FFL book in those quantities, ouch, hope they got a computer variance from the ATF!) and they should be filling a batch of back-orders this week.

She did say that there were not enough to fill ALL the back-orders there though. Hopefully mine and anyone here got theirs in early enough. She could not say how far up/down the list one needed to be, because they wouldn't know who of all the back-orders that would not want them, or got them elsewhere in the meantime.
Link Posted: 3/9/2010 4:57:08 PM EDT
AJ
Thanks for the info. When did you place your order? Mine went in on 1/26. I haven't called them. Just followed the few updates posted here. Hope we make the cut!!
Link Posted: 3/9/2010 8:31:33 PM EDT
Originally Posted By oliverb:
AJ
Thanks for the info. When did you place your order? Mine went in on 1/26. I haven't called them. Just followed the few updates posted here. Hope we make the cut!!


I ordered on 2/4, just about a week after you. Hope I made the cut.
Link Posted: 3/9/2010 10:16:09 PM EDT
AJ,
Thanks! I'll post here when/if I hear from Centerfire.
Link Posted: 3/12/2010 7:54:22 AM EDT
Any word from Centerfire, fellas? I got on the list in early Feb and was told I was about 200 back at the time. I'd appreciate hearing from anyone who's heard (as well as when they got on the backorder list). Thanks!

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