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 SGCUSA
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Posted: 12/7/2011 3:34:20 PM
THE IMAGE ABOVE IS A PAID ADVERTISEMENT 
AK Enhanced Safety |
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eternal24k
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Posted: 12/7/2011 5:48:31 PM
no bolt hold open notch?
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GTLandser
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Posted: 12/7/2011 6:25:52 PM
[Last Edit: 12/7/2011 6:26:49 PM by GTLandser]
fantastic. and what does this revolutionary tactical efficiency device cost?
ETA: ah, the link of course. 
New Question: Are you guys freaking nuts?!  |
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Posted: 12/7/2011 9:09:58 PM
[Last Edit: 12/7/2011 9:14:01 PM by Red733]
Very cool, my machining skills are limited and I wanted something just like this. Ready for shipping soon? How much?
Edit: they're 59.99, nevermind I like my stock safety lever. Price 'em reasonably and I think you'll see much more business, most guys want a BHO notch and that's more work they'd have to do to it. |
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RescueGunner
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Posted: 12/8/2011 2:21:07 AM
I guess Kreb's will continue to get my business.
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Posted: 12/8/2011 2:27:37 AM
[Last Edit: 12/9/2011 10:16:38 AM by BSWilson]
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Beltfedleadhead
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Posted: 12/8/2011 2:27:12 PM
A bho notch would be easy to add to this. I don't think $60 is outrageous, though. It's a huge step up in capability for the AK. Krebs sells for the same price, iirc.
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Posted: 12/8/2011 4:08:41 PM
I forget where but you can buy the piece that rivets on and it comes with the rivets for like 4 or 5 bucks and it's an easy install
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Posted: 12/9/2011 10:06:28 PM
[Last Edit: 12/9/2011 10:06:52 PM by syclone0252]
Originally Posted By RescueGunner:
I guess Kreb's will continue to get my business. what he said 
that cost way to freakin much |
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Posted: 12/10/2011 7:50:03 AM
The krebs looks better, is cheaper, and has the BHO notch.
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Posted: 12/10/2011 11:51:12 AM
I wish this was cheaper too, but why does everyone want the bolt hold open notch?
I know some ranges mandate the open bolt, but I see no use for it otherwise. BHO is just another place for debris to enter your rifle. |
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eternal24k
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Posted: 12/10/2011 12:14:41 PM
Originally Posted By rightwing87:
I wish this was cheaper too, but why does everyone want the bolt hold open notch? I know some ranges mandate the open bolt, but I see no use for it otherwise. BHO is just another place for debris to enter your rifle. there are a lot of reasons, visual check or malfunction drills. Please explain how a BHO notch on the selector makes another place for debris to enter your rifle |
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Posted: 12/10/2011 12:39:09 PM
Originally Posted By eternal24k:
Originally Posted By rightwing87:
I wish this was cheaper too, but why does everyone want the bolt hold open notch? I know some ranges mandate the open bolt, but I see no use for it otherwise. BHO is just another place for debris to enter your rifle. there are a lot of reasons, visual check or malfunction drills. Please explain how a BHO notch on the selector makes another place for debris to enter your rifle Being that it's not an auto BHO (like on an AR), I don't see how using it for visual checks or malfunction drills is very useful. When the AK goes "click" you rack the bolt to extract the dead round. If it still fails to fire, you pop off the top cover and look for the problem. When the safety is engaged, there is a gaping hole into your rifle's internals for debris. I don't plan on rolling in mud, but it's still a place for dust and rain water to enter the rifle. 
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TexasSheepdog
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Posted: 12/10/2011 1:34:02 PM
[Last Edit: 12/10/2011 1:34:37 PM by TexasSheepdog]
Originally Posted By rightwing87: My AK laughs at your dust and rain water. I've pulled the dust cover off after shooting in high winds and emptied grass clippings and leaves out. No FTF. Originally Posted By eternal24k: Originally Posted By rightwing87: I wish this was cheaper too, but why does everyone want the bolt hold open notch? I know some ranges mandate the open bolt, but I see no use for it otherwise. BHO is just another place for debris to enter your rifle. there are a lot of reasons, visual check or malfunction drills. Please explain how a BHO notch on the selector makes another place for debris to enter your rifle Being that it's not an auto BHO (like on an AR), I don't see how using it for visual checks or malfunction drills is very useful. When the AK goes "click" you rack the bolt to extract the dead round. If it still fails to fire, you pop off the top cover and look for the problem. When the safety is engaged, there is a gaping hole into your rifle's internals for debris. I don't plan on rolling in mud, but it's still a place for dust and rain water to enter the rifle. http://www.krebscustom.com/RawPhotos/7-13-09/MkVUnderfolderSafety-2.jpg I dremeled a BHO notch in my safety in a few minutes. It's handy at the range. Looks like the extended safety piece could be made with some sheetmetal and a rivet gun for a couple bucks. $65  |
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Posted: 12/10/2011 2:45:15 PM
Originally Posted By TexasSheepdog:
Originally Posted By rightwing87:
My AK laughs at your dust and rain water. I've pulled the dust cover off after shooting in high winds and emptied grass clippings and leaves out. No FTF. Originally Posted By eternal24k:
Originally Posted By rightwing87:
I wish this was cheaper too, but why does everyone want the bolt hold open notch? I know some ranges mandate the open bolt, but I see no use for it otherwise. BHO is just another place for debris to enter your rifle. there are a lot of reasons, visual check or malfunction drills. Please explain how a BHO notch on the selector makes another place for debris to enter your rifle Being that it's not an auto BHO (like on an AR), I don't see how using it for visual checks or malfunction drills is very useful. When the AK goes "click" you rack the bolt to extract the dead round. If it still fails to fire, you pop off the top cover and look for the problem. When the safety is engaged, there is a gaping hole into your rifle's internals for debris. I don't plan on rolling in mud, but it's still a place for dust and rain water to enter the rifle. http://www.krebscustom.com/RawPhotos/7-13-09/MkVUnderfolderSafety-2.jpg
I dremeled a BHO notch in my safety in a few minutes. It's handy at the range. Looks like the extended safety piece could be made with some sheetmetal and a rivet gun for a couple bucks. $65
I know it won't probably affect function, but I don't want to add water and dirt removal to my cleaning regiment. Can you not use a chamber flag at the range? No modification needed for that. |
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Posted: 12/21/2011 7:55:31 PM
Originally Posted By TexasSheepdog:
Originally Posted By rightwing87:
My AK laughs at your dust and rain water. I've pulled the dust cover off after shooting in high winds and emptied grass clippings and leaves out. No FTF. Originally Posted By eternal24k:
Originally Posted By rightwing87:
I wish this was cheaper too, but why does everyone want the bolt hold open notch? I know some ranges mandate the open bolt, but I see no use for it otherwise. BHO is just another place for debris to enter your rifle. there are a lot of reasons, visual check or malfunction drills. Please explain how a BHO notch on the selector makes another place for debris to enter your rifle Being that it's not an auto BHO (like on an AR), I don't see how using it for visual checks or malfunction drills is very useful. When the AK goes "click" you rack the bolt to extract the dead round. If it still fails to fire, you pop off the top cover and look for the problem. When the safety is engaged, there is a gaping hole into your rifle's internals for debris. I don't plan on rolling in mud, but it's still a place for dust and rain water to enter the rifle. http://www.krebscustom.com/RawPhotos/7-13-09/MkVUnderfolderSafety-2.jpg
I dremeled a BHO notch in my safety in a few minutes. It's handy at the range. Looks like the extended safety piece could be made with some sheetmetal and a rivet gun for a couple bucks. $65
Spot welder and sheet metal. Your set. |
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Posted: 12/25/2011 10:23:57 PM
You guys forget two things this is Scottsdale Gun Club and US Palm. Imagine if Beverly Hills had a gun shop or there was a gun club of Orange county. Ok well thats what we have here in AZ we have Scottsdale or Snobsdale as other AZ locals call it. Great people that work there but they have insane prices that I am sure allot of people on that side of town and that demographic have no problems paying. Add US Palm to that mix and its a match made in heaven.
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ObsoleteMan
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Posted: 1/19/2012 8:12:47 PM
[Last Edit: 1/19/2012 8:14:25 PM by ObsoleteMan]
Sorry SGC & US Palm, but everyone posting in here in agreement. It has no bolt hold open option and it is not reasonably priced. Fail. |
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Posted: 1/24/2012 10:13:19 PM
Id rather go with the Krebs it looks better, and it looks well made not riveted on. I'm a little surprised with US Palm putting this out.
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Posted: 1/26/2012 8:50:03 PM
Does anyone really think anything that comes out of the Scottsdale Gun Club will be reasonably priced? Hopefully US Palm will find more distributors and drop the price.
NPT |
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Posted: 1/28/2012 9:27:31 AM
I saw a kit with that same metal tab and two rivets for $12.
http://www.solartactical.com/AK-EXTENDED-SAFETY-SELECTOR-TAB-127.htm I guess the other $53 is for install and parkering. |
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Ptlm724
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Posted: 2/1/2012 10:30:04 PM
[Last Edit: 2/1/2012 10:31:23 PM by Ptlm724]
I am ASSUMING that the $65 is for the entire safety selector assembly as well as the riveted on tab thingy...? Brownells sells the factory replacement safety selector assembly retail for $44 and dealer cost is like $35 so even if they're getting the selector assembly for $30 a pop in bulk and then add the cost of the tab rivets and labor, they really aren't "crazy" per say with the price at $65; over priced yeah maybe, but not quite "crazy" IMO; they have to make a profit. If I was in the business of making them I'd probably try to make the price at least on par with other brands (like Power Custom and the others mentioned here) and try to make my profit in bulk sales rather than going for the whole load in a hundred peaces or so, but I'm not in that business so...ahhh yeah.... I guess that was a long winded way of saying I won't be buying one at that price.
Now if this is $65 for just that little tab, two rivets and some common sense instructions about how to drill a hole and set a rivet, yea that's pretty insane...  |
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Posted: 2/2/2012 9:56:36 PM
I doubt they are buying safeties @ $30 each.
https://www.apexgunparts.com/product_info.php/cPath/21_91/products_id/1527 |
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Ptlm724
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Posted: 2/2/2012 10:21:22 PM
Originally Posted By ratfink57:
I doubt they are buying safeties @ $30 each. https://www.apexgunparts.com/product_info.php/cPath/21_91/products_id/1527 Fair enough, I only looked at Brownells to get an idea what they cost. I guess Brownells is over priced too... |
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Posted: 3/5/2012 2:12:57 PM
Originally Posted By RescueGunner:
I guess Kreb's will continue to get my business. I with you. +1 for Krebs |
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Posted: 4/3/2012 8:49:24 PM
i don't get riviting it on why not stamp all out of one pice?
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