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Posted: 11/1/2011 9:33:03 AM
looks great
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Posted: 11/1/2011 3:15:31 PM
An UF in 5.45 for under $700 would be awesome......
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Posted: 11/2/2011 10:27:56 PM
A 1200 ak is highway robbery
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Posted: 11/3/2011 6:34:09 AM

Originally Posted By irierider:
A 1200 ak is highway robbery

Tell it to Arsenal/K-Var.
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Posted: 11/3/2011 10:09:15 AM
Well there are differences in expense between the construction of a milled receiver AK and a stamped receiver AK. Trust me, highway robbers have much higher margins than we do.
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Posted: 11/11/2011 8:33:56 PM
Originally Posted By firststrike51:
An UF in 5.45 for under $700 would be awesome......


$400 for a WASR is robbery. $1,200 for a rare Yugo Mill is fantastic.
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Posted: 11/11/2011 8:51:55 PM
Originally Posted By Corbic:
Originally Posted By firststrike51:
An UF in 5.45 for under $700 would be awesome......


$400 for a WASR is robbery. $1,200 for a rare Yugo Mill is fantastic.


but the trajedy is they function the same...
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Posted: 11/11/2011 11:35:57 PM
Originally Posted By MAKAK47:
Originally Posted By Corbic:
Originally Posted By firststrike51:
An UF in 5.45 for under $700 would be awesome......


$400 for a WASR is robbery. $1,200 for a rare Yugo Mill is fantastic.


but the trajedy is they function the same...


...as in they both shoot bullets by striking them with a firing pin? Most rifles work that way these days.
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Posted: 11/12/2011 7:28:44 AM
Originally Posted By Corbic:
Originally Posted By MAKAK47:
Originally Posted By Corbic:
Originally Posted By firststrike51:
An UF in 5.45 for under $700 would be awesome......


$400 for a WASR is robbery. $1,200 for a rare Yugo Mill is fantastic.


but the trajedy is they function the same...


...as in they both shoot bullets by striking them with a firing pin? Most rifles work that way these days.


in terms of reliability too
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Posted: 11/12/2011 9:28:32 AM
Originally Posted By MAKAK47:
Originally Posted By Corbic:
Originally Posted By MAKAK47:
Originally Posted By Corbic:
Originally Posted By firststrike51:
An UF in 5.45 for under $700 would be awesome......


$400 for a WASR is robbery. $1,200 for a rare Yugo Mill is fantastic.


but the trajedy is they function the same...


...as in they both shoot bullets by striking them with a firing pin? Most rifles work that way these days.


in terms of reliability too


But not in terms of out of the box quality, fit and appearance, coating or source of manufacture.

Is a Mil-Spec 1911 (~$550) and a Kimber Tactical Pro II is $1,250; do you criticizes that? They are both 1911s and "function the same".

At the end of the day, if you want a Milled-Receiver Yugo, good luck finding it for less. If you want to convert a factory new Russian Saiga into a Mil-Spec looking rifle, its going to cost you the $650-800 that an Arsenal would.
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Posted: 11/12/2011 9:36:02 AM
reliability is the same though
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Posted: 11/13/2011 6:17:37 AM
Kimbers are ridiculous. What a worthless line of handguns.
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Posted: 11/14/2011 8:51:57 PM
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A Kyber pass AKM with triangle folder would sell much better. Henderson Defense used to make them and they command a premium. Heck, I would want one of a reasonable price.


+1

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Posted: 11/29/2011 10:33:19 AM

Originally Posted By sdrake100:
Kimbers are ridiculous. What a worthless line of handguns.


Uh...no.
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Posted: 12/5/2011 8:16:11 AM
Originally Posted By agillig:

Originally Posted By sdrake100:
Kimbers are ridiculous. What a worthless line of handguns.


Uh...no.


My Gold combat stopped working between 11 and 12 K rounds, the hammer sear and disconnecter began to round off and the grip safety stopped doing it's job. They would not fix it because a $1600 pistol only comes with a 1year warante. Some people may think they walk on water but as far as I'm concerned they can keep their MIM junk. YMMV

As for a milled AK machine time isn't cheap, I would rather have a stamped rifle because of weight and economy but the milled guns are more expensive to produce for sure. This is why the Soviets went to the stamped AKM in the first place.
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Posted: 12/10/2011 7:21:29 AM
Originally Posted By philspel:
I have a ton of 5.45 ammo. I am in the market for an inexpensive underfolder, and a 5.45 would be sweet.


I'm in the same boat. Underfders are cool, but I have a pile of 5.45 ammo and mags and would rather not get into another caliber.
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Posted: 12/21/2011 7:09:40 AM
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Side-folder, with military buttstock - either triangular skeleton, or 100-series!!


this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted: 12/21/2011 7:10:18 AM
Originally Posted By nictra:
I already built mine. Wish you guys would have thought about this a year ago or 2 ago.

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b232/NICTRA/74%20UF/P1010153.jpg


sorry man
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Posted: 1/7/2012 12:30:36 AM
I think it should also have a front sight gas block also. I've always wanted a sbr underfolder krink/draco in 5.45 but i'm fairly cheap too.
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Posted: 5/6/2012 10:39:55 PM
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Heck yes! I have been eyeing those krink kits but have way too many projects already
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Posted: 5/17/2012 5:30:50 PM
Nice looking milled AK, but too pricey. One of the main advantages of AK type rifles is that they are affordable. If they are $1200, you might as well get an upper echalon AR. On the other hand, an AK 5.45 underfolder would be great if not overpriced. Triangle stock is better no doubt, but they are also much more expensive. Used underfolder in war, and it held up pretty good....The only thing that ruins the underfolder is when you shoot mines out of it.
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Posted: 6/2/2012 8:47:06 AM
Originally Posted By brunnels:
The AK community is made up largely of two groups, you have the traditionalists, and you have the tacital guys, and then there is a small portion that just wants a comfortable practical rifle. The traditionalist arent going to want the underfolder because they like to have their rifles as close as possible to it original form and since there was never a 5.45 underfolder they probably are going to steer clear of it. The tacticool guys arent going to want an underfolder, because lets face it underfolder stocks arent tacticool, and they dont make your rifle look like an AR so they will steer clear of them. The small group of guys who just want a comfortable rifle to shoot probably wont touch them because underfolders arent exactly the lazy boy of gun stocks. There will be a small market of people who will buy them because they are different, but i would count on the market being small.


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Posted: 6/10/2012 7:12:10 PM
I'm just glad this product intro isn't about a 5.45 triangular side-folder- I'm having a tough enough time saving money for food- ; )
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Posted: 6/10/2012 8:28:51 PM
Don't care for underfolders, triangle or 100 would be great though!
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Posted: 6/20/2012 10:53:19 PM
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Originally Posted By brunnels:
The AK community is made up largely of two groups, you have the traditionalists, and you have the tacital guys, and then there is a small portion that just wants a comfortable practical rifle. The traditionalist arent going to want the underfolder because they like to have their rifles as close as possible to it original form and since there was never a 5.45 underfolder they probably are going to steer clear of it. The tacticool guys arent going to want an underfolder, because lets face it underfolder stocks arent tacticool, and they dont make your rifle look like an AR so they will steer clear of them. The small group of guys who just want a comfortable rifle to shoot probably wont touch them because underfolders arent exactly the lazy boy of gun stocks. There will be a small market of people who will buy them because they are different an elite and sophisticated group of commandos, but i would count on the market being small.


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