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Posted: 3/24/2011 1:16:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: MakoDefense]
The VFR-AK Combat Rail System for the AKM and AK-74 style rifles has been upgraded. The new design (third generation) looks very similar to the second generation externally, while the first design was quite different, with a rear top rail that was separate from the top handguard, attached to the bottom handguard (some other companies build copies of the first generation). The new design has two obvious differences: - There are now three additional screws that hold the two halves together, for a total of 9 screws. - The cleaning rod can now be installed on the rifle with the VFR-AK installed. Photos:     The VFR-AK is a very simple, sophisticated design that adjusts to the variations between rifles, mounts up very tight, and increases the rigidity of the weapon, which can increase accuracy on some weapons by reducing barrel and reciever flex. Once mounted, the weapon can still be field stripped for maintenance and cleaning without removing the rail system, and for more thorough cleaning, the top rail can be removed to allow the gas tube to be removed. The top rail returns to zero when reinstalled. It does not block access to the ejection port or deflect brass. The VFR-AK fits the majority of weapons despite variations between weapons with no fitting required. It also fits some weapons that have non-standard handguards, such as the Polish Tantal rifles. Rear sights can be used with the VFR-AK installed, and, if necessary, can be used even when an optic is installed (with every optic I have tried). They can be seen under the optic. BUIS can also be installed on the top rail for those who prefer to do so. The VFR-AK rail system is really a great system. I have tried a lot of others, some that are really good, but the VFR-AK really changes the feel of the rifle. The comment I hear most from people who pick up a rifle with the VFR-AK installed is that it really makes the rifle feel better. The VFR-AK is built for military use. It is machined from billet 6061 T6 aluminum and has a MIL-SPEC hard coat black anodizing. It is designed to be light weight and provide excellent cooling. The VFR-AK is built in Israel and in use by several military forces around the world (the Israeli equivalent of the Navy SEALs use AKs). I am just finishing the editing of an installation video and will upload it once audio is complete. |
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Posted: 3/24/2011 1:38:49 PM EDT
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With the latest generation of the VFR-AK for AKM/AK-74, we also have a new VFR-RPK for RPK-style weapons.
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Posted: 3/31/2011 6:33:20 PM EDT
[#2]
I do not see a weight listed for the VFR-AK. Do you happen to know what it weighs?
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Posted: 3/31/2011 6:40:11 PM EDT
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I will get an exact weight and post it here and on our website.
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Posted: 5/4/2011 5:23:02 PM EDT
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Very nice makes me want an ak but y fiancee would slaughter me if iget another gun
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Posted: 5/13/2011 11:09:57 AM EDT
[#5]
I think your fiancée needs a gift to show your love and devotion. Perhaps a new AK?
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Posted: 5/13/2011 11:12:03 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Liquidmetal: I do not see a weight listed for the VFR-AK. Do you happen to know what it weighs? Sorry, I forgot to post this. Weight is 18.875 oz. |
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Posted: 6/1/2011 12:39:46 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By MakoDefense:
I think your fiancée needs a gift to show your love and devotion. Perhaps a new AK? grrrrrr curse you guys, guess after i get my SBR finished up ill be getting a cheap AK-47 and your amazing handguards |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 6/1/2011 10:29:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: VA-gunnut]
[#8]
Edited...VA-gunnut
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Posted: 6/1/2011 10:51:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: VA-gunnut]
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Originally Posted By BCOWANWHEELS: Edited...VA-gunnut All day long. Always..... |
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Posted: 6/2/2011 1:43:44 AM EDT
[Last Edit: VA-gunnut]
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Originally Posted By BCOWANWHEELS: Edited...VA-gunnut A bit of perspective: First, AKs do not need to be expensive to be reliable. In fact, they are designed to be cheap and reliable. People around the world trust their lives to cheap AKs every day. I saw plenty in action in combat, and though they ranged from the handmade ones that are hammered out one at a time in sheds in Pakistan through all different quality levels including Russian made, most are very reliable and I definitely respect them. A quality AK can be purchased in much of the world for $40 US. The AK is a cheap weapon. Not my weapon of choice, but I would trust my life to a cheap one without reservation. Second, not everyone buys every weapon on order to protect their lives. Some people like to shoot, some collect, some do both. Many like variety. I have a M1913 Patton Saber. Would it be my choice to protect my life? Not really, but in a pinch it could work. Sometimes we need to take a step back and realize that not everyone buys every weapon they own with the purpose of using it as a fighting weapon. If this were the case, I have a lot of cool old weapons that I would never have purchased. |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 6/2/2011 4:46:25 PM EDT
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NO DISSRESPECT INTENDED but i feel alot better with my arsenal sgl21 than i did with a wasr. but this is just me. same for a 1911 i prefer colt but the others will go off when asked but are full of mim parts. i have to know in my heart my guns will do there job if asked on. being a old man makes thing look different i recon and for the difference in price its worth it to me.
colt 1911 glock 20 ( only because its very hi-cap and light weight ) ! but mission specific ! colt ar15 arsenal sgl21 springfield arm super match M1A |
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Posted: 6/4/2011 3:20:43 PM EDT
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As far as function, the WASR will do just fine. I have to say, though, that the Arsenal rifles sure have some of the nicest finishes, and are clean and smooth and built with attention to detail. I know that an AK can be rough and ugly and still function perfectly, but the first time I picked up an Arsenal there was just something about it that felt smoother, cleaner, tighter, better . . .
The price is higher but to many people, it is worth the price. For others, the cleaner fit and finish are secondary to function, and the rougher finishes and manufacturing techniques are not a problem. I just put a finish on a new WASR for someone that had the hole in the top cover cut slightly out of place. This was factory fixed by denting it with a punch so it fit. No problem with function, and typical of the manufacture of many AKs, but something that will greatly annoy many US shooters.
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Posted: 6/20/2011 5:34:34 AM EDT
[Last Edit: MakoDefense]
[#13]
Ok, Here is an independent review, and also detailed installation instructions as promised:
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Posted: 7/19/2011 7:31:28 PM EDT
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These rails of yours are very interesting, particularly because they don't clamp down on the barrel. I'll probably save up to buy a set in a couple of months.
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OH, USA
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Posted: 9/1/2011 12:35:58 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 7n6]
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Noted.
This system does not work with 100 series/AKS-74 sidefolding style stocks or underfolding stocks. This system does not allow quick release of the gas tube for cleaning. Is at least the gas tube "free floated", i.e. not attached to the lower so as not to degrade accuracy? |
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Posted: 9/3/2011 11:52:45 PM EDT
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So what EOTech style red dot sight is that in the pictures?
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Posted: 9/4/2011 12:10:30 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By RomeTwoOne: Meprolight M5. That is a prototype model, the only one in the US now. There have been several revisions through extensive testing with the IDF, and the latest version is now finishing testing with Israeli Defense Force testers. It should be available around the end of the year. It is MIL-SPEC, night vision compatible, AA powered red dot sight. It is expected to retail under $400.So what EOTech style red dot sight is that in the pictures? |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 9/28/2011 5:27:36 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7n6]
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Posted: 9/28/2011 6:14:39 PM EDT
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Just realized I missed your question. This rail system does not attach at all to the gas tube. The gas tube can be cleaned with it in place, or the top rail can be removed to pull the tube for cleaning.
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OH, USA
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Posted: 12/9/2011 2:02:02 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By MakoDefense:
Just realized I missed your question. This rail system does not attach at all to the gas tube. The gas tube can be cleaned with it in place, or the top rail can be removed to pull the tube for cleaning. First, the gas tube rail isn't important, it needs to be quick detach type to allow for easy access to the gas block itself- not a bunch of machine screws. Perhaps a throw lever style attachment to keep the gas tube rail locked down but allow for quick detach. Second, not all AK's are fixed stock type or Romanian/Polish/East German/AMD style folders. You should have really designed this to be usable with left hand side folding 74 type rifles and underfolders. Far more of these style folders than the other type of right hand side folders. Third, lose the machine screws- they will back out when firing. You could use a cantilever ratcheting lock down to tighten the lower rail against the lower handguard retainer ring. This would also make it useable for longer handguard type Yugoslavian type rifles. |
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Posted: 12/9/2011 5:03:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Casimir_Pulaski]
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Originally Posted By 7n6: Originally Posted By MakoDefense: Just realized I missed your question. This rail system does not attach at all to the gas tube. The gas tube can be cleaned with it in place, or the top rail can be removed to pull the tube for cleaning. First, the gas tube rail isn't important, it needs to be quick detach type to allow for easy access to the gas block itself- not a bunch of machine screws. Perhaps a throw lever style attachment to keep the gas tube rail locked down but allow for quick detach. Second, not all AK's are fixed stock type or Romanian/Polish/East German/AMD style folders. You should have really designed this to be usable with left hand side folding 74 type rifles and underfolders. Far more of these style folders than the other type of right hand side folders. Third, lose the machine screws- they will back out when firing. You could use a cantilever ratcheting lock down to tighten the lower rail against the lower handguard retainer ring. This would also make it useable for longer handguard type Yugoslavian type rifles. Since you are so much smarter than the people at TWS, Parabellum Armament, and now Mako, why don't you just start your own company 7n6? Btw, that's a good looking rail Mako
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Posted: 12/10/2011 4:55:24 AM EDT
[Last Edit: MakoDefense]
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Originally Posted By 7n6: First, the gas tube rail isn't important, it needs to be quick detach type to allow for easy access to the gas block itself- not a bunch of machine screws. Perhaps a throw lever style attachment to keep the gas tube rail locked down but allow for quick detach. If the top rail is not important to you, then definitely go with a different rail system. This one is too expensive to use of you are not going to use a top rail. Second, not all AK's are fixed stock type or Romanian/Polish/East German/AMD style folders. You should have really designed this to be usable with left hand side folding 74 type rifles and underfolders. Far more of these style folders than the other type of right hand side folders. This rail system was designed to work with specific stocks. It was not designed to work with all folding stocks. It makes little sense to use it with an underfolder, since the point is rock-solid mounting of optics, and underfolders give no decent cheekweld for the optics. Third, lose the machine screws- they will back out when firing. You could use a cantilever ratcheting lock down to tighten the lower rail against the lower handguard retainer ring. This would also make it useable for longer handguard type Yugoslavian type rifles. The reason this rail system was designed the way it was is for reliability and strength over everything else. It was built to be the toughest system out there. It was tested to provide a stable mount for optics that retains zero even when the weapon is heavily abused. It was designed for maritime and amphibious operations, where the weapon is likely to be slammed into the corners and hatches of steel ships and banged over rocks when swimming ashore. The weapon can be cleaned with the rail system in place, and to make it a quick-release system not only reduces the strength, it would also drastically increase the cost, especially if it was designed to adapt to non-standard length weapons. Keep in mind that this system is not designed for the civilian US market, where people have many kinds of AK rifles from many manufacturers/assemblers, but it was designed to fulfill a specific role for a specific military unit. If you want the toughest military rail system for mounting optics on the AK, this is it. It was designed to be used as part of a total package on the AK, which includes specific stocks designed to compliment it, and other accessories and optics. If you do not need the strength, and absolute 100% reliability under the worst conditions, a polymer rail system works great and is far less expensive. If you don't need a top rail, there are other options that can be used without the top rail. Krebs makes a really good rail system, for example. ETA: Can't get the stupid quotes to work right. Answers in blue. |
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Posted: 12/10/2011 2:49:06 PM EDT
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Ignore 7n6 mako.
So im finalky getting my first AK. What stocks does this work with? My local guy has a 7.62 AK that has the AK-74 style brake and polymer side folding stock, would it work with that? |
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Posted: 12/10/2011 9:46:14 PM EDT
[#24]
Depends on the stock. If the stock has to latch folded, it may not work as well. If it is held by spring pressure and a camming action of the hinge, it usually will work well. I prefer a right folding stock, since AKs are being used with optics more and more. The right style of folding stock will work well with the VRF AK. All of our stocks work with it. Anny stock that folds to the right will work. Most that fold left will work, unless they have a latch that is blocked. Send me an email and we will figure it out.
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OH, USA
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Posted: 12/11/2011 1:37:08 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 7n6]
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Originally Posted By sinlessorrow:
Ignore 7n6 mako. So im finalky getting my first AK. What stocks does this work with? My local guy has a 7.62 AK that has the AK-74 style brake and polymer side folding stock, would it work with that? No Sinless, the rail won't work with modern 100 series or 74 type sidefolders. Originally Posted By MakoDefense:
Originally Posted By 7n6: First, the gas tube rail isn't important, it needs to be quick detach type to allow for easy access to the gas block itself- not a bunch of machine screws. Perhaps a throw lever style attachment to keep the gas tube rail locked down but allow for quick detach. If the top rail is not important to you, then definitely go with a different rail system. This one is too expensive to use of you are not going to use a top rail.
Second, not all AK's are fixed stock type or Romanian/Polish/East German/AMD style folders. You should have really designed this to be usable with left hand side folding 74 type rifles and underfolders. Far more of these style folders than the other type of right hand side folders. This rail system was designed to work with specific stocks. It was not designed to work with all folding stocks. It makes little sense to use it with an underfolder, since the point is rock-solid mounting of optics, and underfolders give no decent cheekweld for the optics. Third, lose the machine screws- they will back out when firing. You could use a cantilever ratcheting lock down to tighten the lower rail against the lower handguard retainer ring. This would also make it useable for longer handguard type Yugoslavian type rifles.
The reason this rail system was designed the way it was is for reliability and strength over everything else. It was built to be the toughest system out there. It was tested to provide a stable mount for optics that retains zero even when the weapon is heavily abused. It was designed for maritime and amphibious operations, where the weapon is likely to be slammed into the corners and hatches of steel ships and banged over rocks when swimming ashore. The weapon can be cleaned with the rail system in place, and to make it a quick-release system not only reduces the strength, it would also drastically increase the cost, especially if it was designed to adapt to non-standard length weapons. Keep in mind that this system is not designed for the civilian US market, where people have many kinds of AK rifles from many manufacturers/assemblers, but it was designed to fulfill a specific role for a specific military unit. If you want the toughest military rail system for mounting optics on the AK, this is it. It was designed to be used as part of a total package on the AK, which includes specific stocks designed to compliment it, and other accessories and optics. If you do not need the strength, and absolute 100% reliability under the worst conditions, a polymer rail system works great and is far less expensive. If you don't need a top rail, there are other options that can be used without the top rail. Krebs makes a really good rail system, for example. ETA: Can't get the stupid quotes to work right. Answers in blue. Fair enough on costs to manufacturer a QD upper rail. Let me make my point simple. If I have say a right hand folding style stock, then chances are I have a rail mount on the left side of the receiver- which would not interfere with the stock even with optics mounted. The market for this type of handguard is if you have a left hand sidefolding stock, which is the majority of production today for modern Kalashnikov rifles. |
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Posted: 12/11/2011 2:08:32 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By 7n6: No Sinless, the rail won't work with modern 100 series or 74 type sidefolders. Depends on the stock - it will fit the rifle itself. So what you mean is that the rail works great, but the original stock doesn't work.  Fair enough on costs to manufacturer a QD upper rail. Let me make my point simple. If I have say a right hand folding style stock, then chances are I have a rail mount on the left side of the receiver- which would not interfere with the stock even with optics mounted. The market for this type of handguard is if you have a left hand sidefolding stock, which is the majority of production today for modern Kalashnikov rifles. Doesn't matter. Again, this system isn't designed for the average third-world soldier using a stock AK. It is designed for specialized troops who are using the AK as a base on which a modern weapon system is built. It is built to fit their need exactly. They are not using russian issue stocks. They could care less about the current majority production of AK rifles. As a byproduct, we are able to offer this system to guys like you, who can install it on your AK and reconfigure your stock to work with it if you happen to have one that does not. All of our AK stocks work with the VFR, whether they fold left or right. It is part of a complete high-end weapon system. In the AK world, no product fits every AK variant. This is a simple fact of life.
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OH, USA
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Posted: 12/11/2011 11:49:58 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By MakoDefense:
Originally Posted By 7n6:
No Sinless, the rail won't work with modern 100 series or 74 type sidefolders. Depends on the stock - it will fit the rifle itself. So what you mean is that the rail works great, but the original stock doesn't work.
Fair enough on costs to manufacturer a QD upper rail. Let me make my point simple. If I have say a right hand folding style stock, then chances are I have a rail mount on the left side of the receiver- which would not interfere with the stock even with optics mounted. The market for this type of handguard is if you have a left hand sidefolding stock, which is the majority of production today for modern Kalashnikov rifles. Doesn't matter. Again, this system isn't designed for the average third-world soldier using a stock AK. It is designed for specialized troops who are using the AK as a base on which a modern weapon system is built. It is built to fit their need exactly. They are not using russian issue stocks. They could care less about the current majority production of AK rifles. As a byproduct, we are able to offer this system to guys like you, who can install it on your AK and reconfigure your stock to work with it if you happen to have one that does not. All of our AK stocks work with the VFR, whether they fold left or right. It is part of a complete high-end weapon system. In the AK world, no product fits every AK variant. This is a simple fact of life. Except the AKM, fixed stock 74's, AMD sidefolders, Polish 74's, EG sidefolders, and just about every major rifle that this rail could be used on- is no longer in production. All current production factory produced Kalashnikovs are along the lines of the 100 series or 74M type. That is my point. |
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Posted: 12/11/2011 12:07:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: MakoDefense]
[#28]
Then build your own rail system. I told you the purpose for this one.
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OH, USA
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Posted: 12/11/2011 12:21:34 PM EDT
[#29]
Originally Posted By MakoDefense:
Then build your own rail system. I told you the purpose for this one. OK. Been giving out my ideas for a while- maybe this is exactly what I should do.
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Posted: 12/11/2011 12:37:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: MakoDefense]
[#30]
Originally Posted By 7n6: All current production factory produced Kalashnikovs are along the lines of the 100 series or 74M type. That is my point. Another point - how are you going to mount an optic on those and have a working factory side folder? Side rail mount? I don't think so. The factory folding stocks on those need to be re-thought if they want to have a side-folder that functions with a rifle that has optics mounted. A guy who works with the AK industry in Russia was telling me about how the Russian soldiers were cobbling stuff together to try to make something work - we are talking with him about coming up with some solutions. ETA: Also, the factory stocks don't give a cheekweld with an optic, so you need to do something with the stock anyway if you are running optics.
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Posted: 12/11/2011 11:04:02 PM EDT
[#31]
do yall offer a arfcom discount?
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OH, USA
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Posted: 12/12/2011 2:27:24 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 7n6]
[#32]
Originally Posted By MakoDefense:
Originally Posted By 7n6: All current production factory produced Kalashnikovs are along the lines of the 100 series or 74M type. That is my point.
Another point - how are you going to mount an optic on those and have a working factory side folder? Side rail mount? I don't think so. The factory folding stocks on those need to be re-thought if they want to have a side-folder that functions with a rifle that has optics mounted. A guy who works with the AK industry in Russia was telling me about how the Russian soldiers were cobbling stuff together to try to make something work - we are talking with him about coming up with some solutions. ETA: Also, the factory stocks don't give a cheekweld with an optic, so you need to do something with the stock anyway if you are running optics. Your plan is to tell the Russians to re-design their AK's to work- with your rails. 
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Posted: 12/12/2011 2:34:19 AM EDT
[Last Edit: MakoDefense]
[#33]
Originally Posted By sinlessorrow: do yall offer a arfcom discount? Yes, we do. See the thread here: Click Here |
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Posted: 12/12/2011 2:59:59 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By 7n6: Your plan is to tell the Russians to re-design their AK's to work- with your rails. Not at all. Our plan is to help this guy with a solution for their configuration with side mount optics. Our rail system doesn't even come into play. I'm pretty amazed by your lightning editing skills - every time you post, you change the post to something totally different before I can respond!
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PA, USA
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Posted: 12/12/2011 11:29:41 AM EDT
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Question,
I have a few underfolders would this work? keep in mind I really ever fold them although maybe if thier was a relief cut where the underfolder folds that would be a upgrade on the next gen rail system you may not be able to do side folder but maybe acomodate the underfolder crowd? Anyway I think its a great product and when I save up for one I will get one! |
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Posted: 12/12/2011 1:07:43 PM EDT
[#36]
Originally Posted By MakoDefense:
Originally Posted By 7n6:
Your plan is to tell the Russians to re-design their AK's to work- with your rails.
Not at all. Our plan is to help this guy with a solution for their configuration with side mount optics. Our rail system doesn't even come into play. I'm pretty amazed by your lightning editing skills - every time you post, you change the post to something totally different before I can respond! one thing i have noticed is that it seems the design of the AK folding stocks, is that it seems when they designed them they had no intention of having any type of optics on their rifles, since even russuan optic mounts interfere with the stocks |
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Posted: 12/12/2011 1:43:28 PM EDT
[#37]
How much does it weigh? I didn't want to read 2 pages of someone arguing with you mako
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Posted: 12/12/2011 1:45:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: MakoDefense]
[#38]
Originally Posted By Swoosh101: How much does it weigh? I didn't want to read 2 pages of someone arguing with you mako Weight is 18.875 oz. Other details are on the first page as well, for others who don't want to read through all the comments.
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Posted: 12/12/2011 1:52:48 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AIRCREW1: Some guys leave their stock folded almost all the way, which can work, but not ideal. A better solution is a slot cut in the bottom rail as you said. This may be a possibility for us if there is enough demand, I don't know. It would have to be a variation, because we don't want to do this to the ones that will be used on non-underfolding rifles. At any rate, it is an easy mod to make, and can be done even with a dremmel or grinder.Question, I have a few underfolders would this work? keep in mind I really ever fold them although maybe if thier was a relief cut where the underfolder folds that would be a upgrade on the next gen rail system you may not be able to do side folder but maybe acomodate the underfolder crowd? Anyway I think its a great product and when I save up for one I will get one! |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 12/13/2011 10:25:29 AM EDT
[#40]
Actually yes they did intend to put optics on underfolders it was an after thought. I mean when they released the underfolder they quickly realized they had a problem but was quickly fixed with a shorter side mount rail. They also milled the left side of they underfolder so it would clearly fold with no problems. Every now and again some of these underfolders make it to the US thru Poland which was the other country to make these. This version was called the AKMSU and had a special flash hider that came with them and a guy name Brick at they other boards sells these exact replica flash hiders. So since the side rails are hard to get as with the correct underfolding stock these are not a bad option to use I figure mill out a little from the bottom and the folder locks in place!
I also think even if you just make a new gen rail h-guard just ad the notch in them I figure fixed stock guns can still use them its good to have options and also these would look killer on a folder! |
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Posted: 12/31/2011 3:08:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Liquidmetal]
[#41]
I very recently picked up a VFR-AK. This is the single most expensive accessory (not counting optics) I have ever purchased for an AK, so expectations were pretty high to say the least. I managed to get it for $317, best price I have seen.
The VFR-AK has met all my lofty expectations and justified it's high price tag in my eyes. Quality and design are exceptional. Install was a breeze and the rail is incredibly solid on the rifle. The rail does not clamp to the barrel, a design feature that I really like. I feel like I could chuck my rifle off a cliff and the rail would not budge, it is that solid. The VFR-AK is expensive, but it's very well thought out and will mount every accessory imaginable in one shot. Money very well spent IMO. Obligatory pics:     |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 12/31/2011 4:02:04 PM EDT
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I have to say that looks Killer! I most likely will be getting one for my Underfolder I have access to machinery so no sweat!
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CT, USA
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Posted: 1/19/2012 4:38:24 PM EDT
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just FYI this fits the Romanian SAR1 (century arms) perfect. I will be posting a video review once I get the rest of the goodies mounted!
Also the customer service at Mako is first class! |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 1/27/2012 2:10:50 PM EDT
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Do you think this rail would fit an AMD 65, Also does any of these rails have quick releases as mentioned on the first page?
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Posted: 1/28/2012 2:38:30 PM EDT
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Don't know how well it will work for the AMD 65, I have not tried. I have been told by someone that he installed it on one, but it is second-hand info and I don't know how much work was done to the rifle to make it work.
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OH, USA
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Posted: 2/13/2012 1:38:22 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 7n6]
[#46]
Originally Posted By AIRCREW1:
Question, I have a few underfolders would this work? keep in mind I really ever fold them although maybe if thier was a relief cut where the underfolder folds that would be a upgrade on the next gen rail system you may not be able to do side folder but maybe acomodate the underfolder crowd? Anyway I think its a great product and when I save up for one I will get one! No, this does not work with underfolders or 74 type left hand sidefolders. It only works with fixed stock AKM's/74's or right hand sidefolding models. They could simply modify the lower to accept the underfolder similar to a Samson rail and modify the left side for the hook for a 74 sidefolder. This would then be compatible with nearly 100% of stamped AK type weapons. |
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Posted: 3/16/2012 10:14:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: MOS11C]
[#47]
Originally Posted By MakoDefense:
Doesn't matter. Again, this system isn't designed for the average third-world soldier using a stock AK. It is designed for specialized troops who are using the AK as a base on which a modern weapon system is built. It is built to fit their need exactly. They are not using russian issue stocks. They could care less about the current majority production of AK rifles. Originally Posted By MakoDefense:
Don't know how well it will work for the AMD 65, I have not tried. I have been told by someone that he installed it on one, but it is second-hand info and I don't know how much work was done to the rifle to make it work. You are correct, some of us specialized troops could care less about traditional BS or what the majority of the ak world looks like.....westill would like to know if it fits the AMD. 
My AMD is screaming for a face-lift.
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Posted: 3/18/2012 9:03:03 AM EDT
[#48]
Will this work on my tantal?
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Posted: 3/18/2012 12:24:40 PM EDT
[#49]
Originally Posted By branch_davidian: Will this work on my tantal? Yes, it will work on a Tantal. |
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Posted: 4/4/2012 11:13:22 PM EDT
[#50]
Work on the Yugo M70?
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