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Posted: 1/17/2014 10:09:23 AM EDT
I'm probably going to buy one of the Archers now that they look more correct. I'd still like to swap a few parts depending on what I can find. Anyway, if and when I do get the gun I'll probably shoot it awhile first to make sure it works okay etc before investing time and money.
Can anyone post some Archer builds to inspire me?  Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 1/17/2014 10:24:47 AM EDT
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Crap, between ARs and AKs (+variants) there is always "just one more".
I need one as a tribute to the Poles I worked with in 'stan. |
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Posted: 1/17/2014 10:50:39 AM EDT
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Tag for pics. I have some mags. Buying an archer next month.
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Posted: 1/19/2014 6:29:55 PM EDT
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Well, it looks like my thread's off to a good start...
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Posted: 1/20/2014 12:06:07 AM EDT
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I'll try & post some of my Polish goodness!
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Posted: 1/20/2014 1:01:12 AM EDT
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I'll try & post some of my Polish goodness! Somebody IM Montrala. 
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Posted: 1/20/2014 6:22:48 AM EDT
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I'll try & post some of my Polish goodness! Somebody IM Montrala. But my Mini is bastARdized. I do not thinks this is what you look for ;) ETA picture: 
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Posted: 1/20/2014 8:13:55 AM EDT
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But my Mini is bastARdized. I do not thinks this is what you look for ;) ETA picture: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v286/montrala/Camera%20Awesome%20Photos/preview_image_1_28730062x_zps73e2d83f.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'll try & post some of my Polish goodness! Somebody IM Montrala. But my Mini is bastARdized. I do not thinks this is what you look for ;) ETA picture: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v286/montrala/Camera%20Awesome%20Photos/preview_image_1_28730062x_zps73e2d83f.jpg Aimpoint and vortex? 
I like the surefire magazine and adapter. How does it work? 
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Posted: 1/20/2014 9:37:37 AM EDT
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Aimpoint was there, because it was there, Vortex was added as removable option. They do not co-witness 100%, but it works. Actually now it is only Vortex, as Micro went on my HK for time being. And pistol grip is Magpul one now, that mysteriously come into my possession ;)
Adapter is still no-go for serious use (it was a prototype anyway and my task was to find weak spots - I know that production unit will have lot of changes) and magazine... for me no-go as well. FTF when shooting with mag as support on most rifles I tried (actually it worked flawless only on... Mini). Good for competition use in 3Gun, IPSC Rifle or for range use, but I would not take it with me if my life would depend on that. |
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Posted: 1/21/2014 12:15:32 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/21/2014 8:13:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryRomanian dong grip? |
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Posted: 1/22/2014 2:30:17 AM EDT
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Romanian dong grip? Perhaps in-theater the polymer grip broke and he sourced a replacement from a confiscated rifle? Just an idea. |
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Posted: 1/22/2014 5:27:14 AM EDT
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Perhaps in-theater the polymer grip broke and he sourced a replacement from a confiscated rifle? Just an idea. Or he newer had one. Original wz.96 did not have front pistol grip or easy way to mount it. Soldiers in Iraq and A-Stan did their own mods. This lead to design of new handguard with integrated pistol grip (wz.2004), later replaced by alu railed handguard with removable VFG, but it took some time for modernized rifles to make their way to front troops. You can learn on history and versions of Beryl from this article (written by two guys who actually do know this history): http://sadefensejournal.com/wp/?p=295 |
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Posted: 1/23/2014 8:03:33 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/23/2014 8:05:39 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/29/2014 6:37:38 AM EDT
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So I/O had the latest variant on display at SHOT. Does anyone know if these new models are shipping?
http://www.policeone.com/police-products/firearms/articles/6771294-SHOT-Show-2014-The-Archer-AK-47-clone-in-5-56-NATO/ |
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Posted: 1/29/2014 4:41:55 PM EDT
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So I/O had the latest variant on display at SHOT. Does anyone know if these new models are shipping? http://www.policeone.com/police-products/firearms/articles/6771294-SHOT-Show-2014-The-Archer-AK-47-clone-in-5-56-NATO/ Idk. Maybe call IO? I might. Gonna order mine next week. 
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Posted: 1/29/2014 4:42:59 PM EDT
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So I/O had the latest variant on display at SHOT. Does anyone know if these new models are shipping? http://www.policeone.com/police-products/firearms/articles/6771294-SHOT-Show-2014-The-Archer-AK-47-clone-in-5-56-NATO/ Idk. Maybe call IO? I might. Gonna order mine next week. I tried to call them today since my dealer has an outstanding order for one. |
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Posted: 1/30/2014 12:48:27 AM EDT
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So I/O had the latest variant on display at SHOT. Does anyone know if these new models are shipping? http://www.policeone.com/police-products/firearms/articles/6771294-SHOT-Show-2014-The-Archer-AK-47-clone-in-5-56-NATO/ Idk. Maybe call IO? I might. Gonna order mine next week. I tried to call them today since my dealer has an outstanding order for one. I've been looking at this all evening. What did IO fix on these versus the initial ones? Read on an ak forum that there is another guy trying to import some with the ambi selectors and correct rear trunnion, but that he doesn't have capital and it won't happen. Also read on a Canadian forum that if we see MSBS, it will be next year. |
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Posted: 1/30/2014 7:35:34 AM EDT
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I've been looking at this all evening. What did IO fix on these versus the initial ones? Read on an ak forum that there is another guy trying to import some with the ambi selectors and correct rear trunnion, but that he doesn't have capital and it won't happen. Also read on a Canadian forum that if we see MSBS, it will be next year. Versus first import batch, this one has correct brake and stock plus scope mount, but does not use original magazine (as delivered). Rear trunion is correct, only 3rd rivet (required for barrel launched grenades) is not installed - easily corrected by adding rivet. Unfortunately hack-job BHO cut in safety lever is still there. Beryl does not have ambi selectors - safety is on right side only; on left side there is semi-auto selector only. Regarding MSBS, next year we should know if Polish Army adopts it. If yes, then civilian version (in Poland) will follow year or two later, if no, then MSBS is dead anyway. |
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Posted: 1/30/2014 4:52:58 PM EDT
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 I've always liked the folding front sight. If I were to build a Beryl clone, I'd want it to have the front end like in the pic above. |
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Posted: 1/31/2014 5:03:43 AM EDT
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I've always liked the folding front sight. If I were to build a Beryl clone, I'd want it to have the front end like in the pic above. Folding front sight was introduced in short lived civilian version of Beryl called initialy "Radom Sporter" and later "Beryl IPSC". When it died killed by Polish Police (who is in BATFE shoes regarding F and E, A and T are served by Customs Administration) who soon started to refuse register rifles for civilian owners and refused to issue export permits for foreign sales, some of sights made were used in mil deliveries. This version was also fitted with POPC Gen2 - cantilever Picatinny rail mounted on modified front sight base. 
Spirit of this rifle lives in our local 3Gun competitions named "Liga Sportera", that originated from series of matches supported by factory to promote "Radom Sporter" rifle. Current civilian Beryl versions in Poland differ only by lack of fun switch and corresponding trigger parts. Those are actually made in same production batches as military rifles and are named "Radom Sport" and "Mini-Radom Sport". ' |
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Posted: 2/3/2014 12:54:30 PM EDT
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Here's the current model from I/O. Interesting that it is shown with a Beryl mag rather than the Pro Mag.
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Posted: 2/4/2014 6:26:54 AM EDT
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Here's the current model from I/O. Interesting that it is shown with a Beryl mag rather than the Pro Mag. I would not take anything I.O. tells or shows seriously. They do not even can provide correct info on barrel twist* :( * - barrel twist on Archer is same as on Beryl - 228mm. That means 1/9". I asked at the source. |
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Posted: 2/16/2014 10:50:41 PM EDT
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Here is my Archer and I love it.
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