Nice work, thank you.

thank........

1st time I have seen this. Most excellent post! Good job Brian!

this thread should never ever be deleted!

what's more accurate? stamped or milled reciever?

lols, seriously I'm researching dat issue.  unfortunately the pubic searches here only go back 30 days.  can u of u do the search for me & post the links?  thanks.

Originally Posted By 1Gunner: this thread should never ever be deleted!

Somebody say A-men! I just bought my first AK (Chinese Norinco SILE pre-922r underfolder) and the info therein is INVALUABLE! Thanks again!

I salute you!

Tagged for later reference

Originally Posted By RS39: code10.kalashnikov.guns.ru/mlist.html Pics of AK parts markings, matched to country of origin. Thanks to Miami02TJ

Should be moved to the original post for noobs like me :P

trying to help a guy out but the parts count link is not working try this out

archive.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=4&f=93&t=55169


cut and paste from old post


OK, this is probably one of THE most asked questions: What are the parts that need to be replaced to be 922r compliant?

(1) Frames, receivers, receiver castings, forgings or
stampings
(2) Barrels
(3) Mounting blocks (trunions)
(4)*Muzzle attachments
(5) Bolts
(6) Bolt carriers
(7) Gas pistons
(8) Triggers
(9) Hammers
(10) Disconnectors
(11) Buttstocks
(12) Pistol grips
(13) Forearm handguards
(14) Magazine body
(15) Followers
(16) Floorplates

An gun can contain no more that 10 "imported" parts.

The floorplate and follower count as one part each. Both handguards count as 1 part, the pistol grip counts as 1, as well as the stock is 1. By replacing the FCG with an American made version this counts as 3 parts replacement.

really good info thanks.

Good info to know, thank you.
Donk

New to the Darkside, found this info very helpful, thanks,
RRAMAN

I don't profess any particular knowledge of 922r (frequent users of the board probably have a better overall understanding, in fact), but I was curious, so I did a little research.  Just for reference, the list of parts necessary to comply with 18 USC 922r may be found at 22 CFR 178, conveniently set forth at:

http://www.atf.treas.gov/regulations/27cfr178.html

Scroll down to Section 178.39.  

Nice stuff...Thank you...

fred

Some of the old links don't work anymore due to AR15.com threads being archived.

Other than that, this thread is very handy!

Took my Vector arms AK out yesterday....first time....

180 rounds , no hiccups...FUN GUN !!

fred

***EDIT***
i found it by accident here - thanks brian for volunteering to search - i think this is pretty important to maybe this link in the OP.

http://ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=4&f=78&t=80299



can someone point me to the thread that had the write up on the "illegal" receivers - before i purchase, i want to make sure i don't get duped.

someone did an excellent writeup that had info on the serial number range and manufacturer for reference - i just don't remember which forum it was in, and it was at least a month ago that i read it (which means my public search won't pull it)!

thanks!

Great job.

I can't see the older links posted in this thread.
So, what's the deal with Joeken?
How about Ohio Rapid Fire?

What was that place that had all the Russian furnature and the deactivated AKs and everything? I think it was in England or something. I wanted to get some Russian furnature from them but I cant remember what the site was..anyone know what I'm talking about?

They had a bunch of deactivated AKs like AK74s, PKMs, GP30s, etc. It was a foreign shop because it said they couldnt be imported to the US because of the ATF. Anyone know?

Originally Posted By Mbsk01: Originally Posted By Blanco_Diablo: What was that place that had all the Russian furnature and the deactivated AKs and everything? I think it was in England or something. I wanted to get some Russian furnature from them but I cant remember what the site was..anyone know what I'm talking about? They had a bunch of deactivated AKs like AK74s, PKMs, GP30s, etc. It was a foreign shop because it said they couldnt be imported to the US because of the ATF. Anyone know? www.rusmilitary.com

THANK YOU!

Is it legal to have them ship furnature/slings/30 round mags to the US? I'd like to pick up some Russian pistol grips, one of their Russian slings, and maybe a bakelite 7.62x39 or slabside mag...

Originally Posted By Mbsk01: Originally Posted By Blanco_Diablo: Originally Posted By Mbsk01: Originally Posted By Blanco_Diablo: What was that place that had all the Russian furnature and the deactivated AKs and everything? I think it was in England or something. I wanted to get some Russian furnature from them but I cant remember what the site was..anyone know what I'm talking about? They had a bunch of deactivated AKs like AK74s, PKMs, GP30s, etc. It was a foreign shop because it said they couldnt be imported to the US because of the ATF. Anyone know? www.rusmilitary.com THANK YOU! Is it legal to have them ship furnature/slings/30 round mags to the US? I'd like to pick up some Russian pistol grips, one of their Russian slings, and maybe a bakelite 7.62x39 or slabside mag... Yes, as long as the declared value is <$100.

So I've gotta order over $100 of stuff or they cant ship? And THEN get hit with shipping? Dang

Can anyone update the links to reflect the archived pages?  Looks like a lot of good information, and don't want to post a bunch of dumb questions in the main forum if the info is archived some place else.

Thanks from a "newbie", very informative Post.

p.s. what is a "spud"?

Originally Posted By ttman: what's more accurate? stamped or milled reciever?

Milled. Good luck finding one.

Originally Posted By LawyerX: I don't profess any particular knowledge of 922r (frequent users of the board probably have a better overall understanding, in fact), but I was curious, so I did a little research.  Just for reference, the list of parts necessary to comply with 18 USC 922r may be found at 22 CFR 178, conveniently set forth at: http://www.atf.treas.gov/regulations/27cfr178.html Scroll down to Section 178.39.

Why the difference in parts lists?

1: From TITLE 27--ALCOHOL, TOBACCO PRODUCTS AND FIREARMS

(c) For purposes of this section, the term imported parts are:

(1) Frames, receivers, receiver castings, forgings or stampings
(2) Barrels
(3) Barrel extensions
(4) Mounting blocks (trunions)
(5) Muzzle attachments
(6) Bolts
(7) Bolt carriers
(8) Operating rods
(9) Gas pistons
(10) Trigger housings
(11) Triggers
(12) Hammers
(13) Sears
(14) Disconnectors
(15) Buttstocks
(16) Pistol grips
(17) Forearms, handguards
(18) Magazine bodies
(19) Followers
(20) Floorplates

2: Arfcom archives, Jeepcreep  [Site Staff]: parts that need to be replaced to be 922r compliant

OK, this is probably one of THE most asked questions: What are the parts that need to be replaced to be 922r compliant?

(1) Frames, receivers, receiver castings, forgings or
stampings
(2) Barrels
(3) Mounting blocks (trunions)
(4)*Muzzle attachments
(5) Bolts
(6) Bolt carriers
(7) Gas pistons
(8) Triggers
(9) Hammers
(10) Disconnectors
(11) Buttstocks
(12) Pistol grips
(13) Forearm handguards
(14) Magazine body
(15) Followers
(16) Floorplates

An gun can contain no more that 10 "imported" parts.

The floorplate and follower count as one part each. Both handguards count as 1 part, the pistol grip counts as 1, as well as the stock is 1. By replacing the FCG with an American made version this counts as 3 parts replacement.

3: AK47 Parts Breakdown and Review

Found another one:

AK U.S. Parts Count for 922r Compliance, theakforum.net, Moderator Kalashnikox

Kalashnikox
Moderator

Joined: 21 Jan 2006
Posts: 134
Location: Midwest

PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 4:45 am

Post subject: AK U.S. Parts Count for 922r Compliance

The 16 countable parts of an AK rifle. No more than 10 of these parts may be imported.

(1) Receiver*
(2) Barrel
(3) Trunnion
(4) Muzzle attachments(flash hiders, brakes, barrel extensions, barrel nuts)*
(5) Bolt
(6) Bolt carrier
(7) Gas piston*
(8) Trigger*
(9) Hammer*
(10) Disconnecter*
(11) Buttstock*
(12) Pistol grip*
(13) Forearm handguards*
(14) Magazine body
(15) Follower
(16) Floorplate

The parts with the * are the most commonly available U.S. manufactured parts.

On a typical stamped receiver rifle you need to replace 5 parts with no muzzle attachment and 6 parts with a muzzle attachment.

On a typical milled recevier rifle you need to replace 4 parts with no muzzle attachment and 5 parts with a muzzle attachment, because there isn't a barrel trunion, it is part of the receiver.

When building an AK pistol, these regulations do not apply. You can not have a stock or forward pistol grip on a pistol.

The "Link" for the FAQ "How do I remove the Upper or forward hand guards doesn't work...
So, I'll re-phrase...

1.)  How does one remove remove the Forward Yugo "Krink" hand guards?

2.)  Who makes a 4 piece "Shot-Glass" flash suppressor for the "Yugo" Krinks?
(7.62x39) (Threads are slightly larger than the Standard "Krinks"...)  

Thanks all,

E!  

What's the story on Joeken?

Many folks had bad experiences with them when ordering (wrong item, misplaced orders, etc.).  And priceis a bit high.  Their ordering service often leaves a lot to be desired.  But if you're in AZ and visit them at the shows, there's never a problem and they have a lot of rare parts.

Another FAQ is "What does the P/П  stand for on the rear leaf/sight

P/П as seen on some models of AK is literally translated from Russian as "Straight Shot" and corresponds to a range of 350m.  

прямой выстрел - Straight Shot


Source
Прицельное приспособление АК состоит из прицела и мушки.
Прицел — секторного типа, с расположением прицельной колодки в средней части оружия. Прицел проградуирован до 800 м (начиная с АКМ — до 1000 м) с шагом 100 м, кроме того на нём имеется деление, обозначенное буквой «П», обозначающее прямой выстрел и соответствующее дальности 350 м. Целик расположен на гривке прицела и имеет прорезь прямоугольной формы.[4]
Мушка расположена у дульной части ствола, на массивном треугольном основании, «крыльями» которого она укрыта с боков. Во время приведения автомата к нормальному бою мушку можно ввинчивать/вывинчивать для повышения/понижения средней точки попадания, а также передвигать влево/вправо для отклонения средней точки попадания по горизонтали.[4]
На некоторые модификации АК при необходимости возможна установка оптического или ночного прицела на боковом кронштейне

Translated
AK sighting device consists of a sight and foresight.
Sight - sector type, with the location of the sighting block in the middle of the weapons.The sight is scaled up to 800 m (from AKM - up to 1000 m) with a spacing of 100 m, in addition to it there is division, marked by the letter "P" denotes a straight shot and a corresponding range of 350 m lies entirely on Grivko sight and has a rectangular slotform [4].
The front sight is located at the muzzle of the barrel, on a massive triangular base,"wings" of which it is nestled on the sides. At the time of bringing the machine to a normal battle you can fly to screw / unscrew to increase / decrease of the mean point of impact, and move left / right to reject the mean point of impact horizontally. [4]
On some modifications of the AK, if necessary or possible to install an optical night sight on the side arm

thanks...I hate being a neewb

I browsed the FAQ list and I didn't see anything about stamped vs. milled. This is probably a dumb question but I got my AKS in 1987 after graduating from Basic and I just shot the heck out of it for all of these years in its stock condition. It is a Norinco side folder just like this:

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_4_93/147781_Norinco_Type_56S_2_side_folder.html

and I want to change out the stock but I need to know if it is stamped or milled in order to get the right one and to be honest with you I have zero idea how to tell the difference.

Thanks for your help!