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Posted: 3/26/2010 12:11:18 AM
Here are some periods for you..................................................................... don't be afraid to use them.
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Posted: 4/8/2010 8:21:19 PM
[Last Edit: 4/8/2010 8:21:55 PM by lcplblazer]
"AK's in order of quality" ???
Might as well start a thread labeled "Beer in order of quality"  |
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Posted: 4/8/2010 8:24:51 PM
Originally Posted By selfishselfless:
100% Agree. I would also choose Maadi over Chinese any day! Sammy <table]<tr]<td] Originally Posted By Fargo: How can you rank chinese over hungarian and polish? I would have to say that polish and hungarian are a tie for quality and they are higher than chinese. Some Maadis are on par with russian guns also. +1 |
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Posted: 4/8/2010 8:26:32 PM
Originally Posted By Fargo:
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Originally Posted By RABID: By quality do you guys mean fit and finish? Sheesh, my romies are as tough as my friends polytechs, maadis, etc, who gives a darn about finish, it's not a custom elephant rifle 
As long as it oges BANG every time, cosmetics are a mute point that can be fixed later if desired. _________________________________________________ Dirty deeds....done dirt cheap  Romanian factory hi-cap guns like the Sar series have perfect receivers. Barrels are fine but barrel parts (like the quality of the front sights) leave much to be desired. Nothing wrong with the romanians also. So many of them around they arent the "golden egg". I really like the Romanian G. I have to home built Romanian G's. |
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Posted: 5/6/2010 7:25:15 AM
I like WASR Romanian rifles.Yea ,they are inexpensive so people think they are no good.They have sheet metal receivers instead of the pretty no rivet guns but they always work.The barrels are crome lined and the receivers flex that little bit wich makes them more accurate than most anything else.
As a ''look what I have'' they are no good.As a gun to take into war they are great. |
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Posted: 5/16/2010 12:45:00 PM
I bought my first AK in 2000, a SAR 1 for $299. It looked like a total piece of crap but that rifle ran like a raped ape.
Fast forward ten years, I've owned and sold alot of different AK's. Here's a list of what I've actually owned, shot and sold in no particular order- 1. Romanian SAR 1 2. Arsenal SLR-106FR 3. Saiga AK103 clone built by AK-USA 4. Arsenal SA M7 fixed stock Classic 5. Saiga LEO 12C 6. Arsenal SAS M7 7. Arsenal SA M7 Carbine 8. Arsenal SA M7 A1R 9. Arsenal SLR 106U 10. Arsenal SLR 105 A1 11. Polish PMKM kit build built by Brick 12. Polish Tantal kit build built by Magnum Gunsmithing 13. Vector Polish underfolder 14. Bulgarian AKS-74 kit build by InRange 15. Saiga 308 "Red Dragon" conversion by Red Jacket 16. Bulgarian RPK-74 kit build by Magnum Gunsmithing 17. Vector RPK-74 18. Arsenal SLR 107UR 19. Polytech fixed stock Legend 20. Polytech fixed stock AKS-762 Spiker Here is what I learned- Every single one of them worked just as well as that $299 SAR 1. I prefer a solid WARSAW length fixed stock. I don't like underfolders. They "look cool" but that's about it. Sidefolders are OK with the best being the polymer sidefolder IMO. The stability of a fixed stock with the versatility of a folder. Some are more appealing to the eye than others but the bottom line was they all put bullets downrange effectively. I prefer a factory built AK over a kit build. A factory build holds it's value better. I prefer a milled receiver over a stamped one because they feel so much smoother. It's hard to explain unless you've owned and shot both. I sold them all but only kept one, my Chinese Polytech Legend. |
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Posted: 6/1/2010 11:23:42 PM
[Last Edit: 6/2/2010 12:35:38 AM by Ermac]
The SAR-1 is actually one of the better Romanian AK's out there. Had you bought one of the lower quality Romanian AK's like a bad WASR, it might not be number 1 on your list then. Consistency is also part of quality and the Romanian AK's aren't as good in that area as Russian and Chinese AK's.
Originally Posted By bigjunk1:
I like WASR Romanian rifles.Yea ,they are inexpensive so people think they are no good.They have sheet metal receivers instead of the pretty no rivet guns but they always work.The barrels are crome lined and the receivers flex that little bit wich makes them more accurate than most anything else. As a ''look what I have'' they are no good.As a gun to take into war they are great. How does the reciever flexing make them more accurate? |
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Posted: 7/26/2010 5:18:47 PM
[quote]Originally Posted By bigjunk1:
and the receivers flex that little bit wich makes them more accurate than most anything else. quote] Where did you ever pick up this bit of wisdom? Whoever told you this- please be sure to never listen to whatever they may have to say in the future ever again- for the information is dead wrong. |
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Posted: 8/9/2010 3:54:34 PM
Has anyone ever bought an AK from these guys? I was interested in this Polish AK, and wanted to know if anyone had any experience with them. Polish Ak by SOG |
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Posted: 9/11/2010 1:30:35 AM
How is Armory? |
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Posted: 11/10/2010 11:30:25 PM
Originally Posted By Rayman1:
* 7.62x39mm semiautomatic rifles
* Romanian "G" AKM parts demilitarized from new or like new rifles * chrome lined barrels and chambers * NDS-3 US fully heat treated receiver * TAPCO G2 fire control group fitted for proper engagement * TAPCO US gas piston * TAPCO US slant brake * magazine well tested with Romanian, Chinese, Bulgarian waffle, Polish, and Hungarian magazines * magazine catch height adjusted for proper engagement * headspace passes with original arsenal gauges * barrel straightness passes with original arsenal gauges * chamber dimension passes with original arsenal gauges * extractor adjustment passes with original arsenal gauges * crown erosion passes with original arsenal gauges * firing pin protrusion passes with original arsenal gauges. * sights aligned with original military boresight collimeter * rifles are test-fired for function and zeroed * METACOL III satin black finish over manganese phosphate Parkerizing * wood refinished with minimum 5 coats of laquer * includes one 30 round magazine It sounds as though you're describing one of the builds from Arizona Response Systems. If so, they're a great company and I think you'll be satisfied with it. I love mine !!!! |
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Posted: 1/10/2011 6:28:44 PM
Originally Posted By AKSU:
I bought my first AK in 2000, a SAR 1 for $299. It looked like a total piece of crap but that rifle ran like a raped ape. Fast forward ten years, I've owned and sold alot of different AK's. Here's a list of what I've actually owned, shot and sold in no particular order- 1. Romanian SAR 1 2. Arsenal SLR-106FR 3. Saiga AK103 clone built by AK-USA 4. Arsenal SA M7 fixed stock Classic 5. Saiga LEO 12C 6. Arsenal SAS M7 7. Arsenal SA M7 Carbine 8. Arsenal SA M7 A1R 9. Arsenal SLR 106U 10. Arsenal SLR 105 A1 11. Polish PMKM kit build built by Brick 12. Polish Tantal kit build built by Magnum Gunsmithing 13. Vector Polish underfolder 14. Bulgarian AKS-74 kit build by InRange 15. Saiga 308 "Red Dragon" conversion by Red Jacket 16. Bulgarian RPK-74 kit build by Magnum Gunsmithing 17. Vector RPK-74 18. Arsenal SLR 107UR 19. Polytech fixed stock Legend 20. Polytech fixed stock AKS-762 Spiker Here is what I learned- Every single one of them worked just as well as that $299 SAR 1. I prefer a solid WARSAW length fixed stock. I don't like underfolders. They "look cool" but that's about it. Sidefolders are OK with the best being the polymer sidefolder IMO. The stability of a fixed stock with the versatility of a folder. Some are more appealing to the eye than others but the bottom line was they all put bullets downrange effectively. I prefer a factory built AK over a kit build. A factory build holds it's value better. I prefer a milled receiver over a stamped one because they feel so much smoother. It's hard to explain unless you've owned and shot both. I sold them all but only kept one, my Chinese Polytech Legend. +1.. just came back from the range with mine and it is a fantastic rifle!!! |
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Posted: 1/27/2011 6:08:31 AM
Nothing beats a Polytech Legend, unless it's an Arsenal Classic.
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Posted: 1/30/2011 3:01:42 PM
The one that goes bang when I need it to.
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Posted: 1/30/2011 3:57:31 PM
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Posted: 2/2/2011 12:18:50 AM
[Last Edit: 2/2/2011 12:21:28 AM by gsd2053]
Overwhelming numbers show the Romanian's as the bottom of the crop. I still have my first AK a Bulgarian SA-93, and a Arsenal SLR 106UR. Very nice Rifles. However I would not hesitate to grab the "Romanian" Draco as a SHTF pick. It is a Fine Romanian Factory built AK. I have seen many ugly AK's. My Romanian Draco is not one of them. Oh and "It Works
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Posted: 2/17/2011 10:36:03 PM
Originally Posted By gsd2053:
Overwhelming numbers show the Romanian's as the bottom of the crop. As in 100,000,000,000 flies can't be wrong?
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Posted: 3/14/2011 7:36:20 PM
I never saw a Polytech on the battle field in Nam. But I saw a lot of Chinese AK battle field pickups.. They were shot to hell but still worked. I have had just about every AK cobbled up parts kit crap from every Eupo country over the past 40 years. I settled into a preban Noricno which is made by the same people who made the type 56. If I were younger I'd take this into battle anyday. How about you pups out there?
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Posted: 6/7/2011 7:49:31 AM
For some reason my little nifty JKF always gets shit on. And ya know what I'm ok with that. Easily 2k rounds through it and it just keeps shooting and shooting and shooting, which if I'm not mistaken is really the point. Crap ammo...good ammo it munches it up and spits it out. Also pretty freakin accurate too.
Just my 2 pennies 
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Posted: 7/9/2011 4:33:06 AM
I know this is for the civilian American market, and I'm out of that loop, but on my humble opinion the best AKs are the East Germans, by far. The worst the Romanians.
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Posted: 7/16/2011 1:23:11 PM
I have never had but one AK fail to function and that was a Hesse that I purchased from SOG after being told it was specifically not a "Hesse". It was one of their modified Saigas, and they even screwed that one up. From Polytechs to the ugly duckling Romanians they all work, just some better than others. In the past the deciding factor for me has been mag and ammo availibilty. An AK is no good unless you have ample ammo and mags. I've never owned a SAR 1, 2, or 3, but I've heard good things about them. I've owned just about everything else. I may have missed one or two in this list but this pretty much prioritizes them from my experience. To me the only real game changer is optic capability since my eyes don't like open sights anymore.
Galil Valmet (stamped or milled) Polytechs milled Arsenal/Bulgarian (milled) Hadar (reconfigured by me) Yugo Gordon Technologies Norinco (milled) Polytech (stamped) Hungarian (stamped) Arsenal (stamped) Bulgarian (stamped using Armory 1.6mm receiver built by me and finished Red Jacket) Polish (stamped using Armory USA 1.6mm receiver built by me and finished Red Jacket) Saiga .308 (reconfigured by me) Saiga (all other calibers) (reconfigured by me) Romanian Cugir (sp?) (reconfigured by me) Norinco (stamped, reconfigured by me) Maddi (MISR) Romanian (current) (never buy without checking front sight first) Hesse (any model or cailber) akp |
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Posted: 10/19/2011 10:43:15 PM
wtb poll for this thread
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Posted: 12/12/2011 9:37:56 PM
can I get some clarification on the "Russian" AK-47
I checked gunbroker to see what price they were going for, and I cant really find an old school Russian AK-47 looks like any Russin AK is a Saiga or Arsenal, is this what is being refered to as Russian? thanks in advance sorry I am new to the world of AK's am am thinking about finding a Russian or Bulgarian AK |
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Posted: 6/9/2012 1:09:16 AM
[Last Edit: 6/9/2012 1:12:24 AM by Rollbar]
Good Post.
I have read all 9 pages and still not 100% sure which MFG to buy. Never owned/shot a AK. I want a milled AK. Usage is for protection/two gun shoot and plinking. I would also like a drum fed 75 round mag (or whatever they make) as well as the 30 round mag. I can spend up to 1k (would rather stay around 800 bucks out the door) and would like a nice AK, smooth actions/trigger etc. I would like one whereas the parts are interchangeable, mag's etc etc in case that is needed. Thanks, Jim |
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Posted: 7/4/2012 7:19:02 PM
Rollbar, for that money the Arsenal SA93 might be of interest to you. I picked one up and and find it to be an awesome shooter and it's built like a tank! My buddy shot it at the range the other day, and he's now looking for one.
For a milled AK and without spending $1800+ on a Polytech Legend, you can have a darn fine AK to call your own. If you can find one for around $800, don't think you'll be disappointed. |
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