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Posted: 5/5/2008 4:20:10 AM
[Last Edit: 5/6/2008 6:26:05 PM by Groundshaker]
In the early 80's i had a Norinco type56 It was excellent worked flawless and went through 14 cases of steel core before someone wanted it more than i did (wish i had it now). Back then,the Maadi was the bottom line AK. The Ban wasr's are the bottom line now (i know i had a 2003 wasr (paid 259 for it and sold it for 400 last month LOL).
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Posted: 7/24/2008 10:11:59 PM
I have WASR, 12 G-kits(built), an SLR96, and a Type III kit(built). I have shot thousands of rounds through them and I like them all. Even my supposedly crappy WASR has never given me a problem and shoots as straight and as well as any of the rest.
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Posted: 8/1/2008 11:15:11 PM
Hi all
New here. These pages are great info. Now it would be cool to put it in one of those "vote for you favorite AK and least favorite" That would be so much more helpful to see how we all compare them on one page. or is it all ready been done and I missed it? |
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Posted: 10/1/2008 8:30:25 PM
My Favorite AK is the one I bought last. Today I bought a Arsenal SSR-56-2. Beatiful blonde (wood), great body on her too (receiver).
I know she will shoot straight. LOL |
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Posted: 10/10/2008 4:18:05 AM
I'm considering getting an AK and noticed on the first few pages many people were not satisfied with Romanian models. Forgive me for not reading through all 8 pages but could someone tell me about the quality of the one I'm looking at? Here's the specifics:
* 7.62x39mm semiautomatic rifles * Romanian "G" AKM parts demilitarized from new or like new rifles * chrome lined barrels and chambers * NDS-3 US fully heat treated receiver * TAPCO G2 fire control group fitted for proper engagement * TAPCO US gas piston * TAPCO US slant brake * magazine well tested with Romanian, Chinese, Bulgarian waffle, Polish, and Hungarian magazines * magazine catch height adjusted for proper engagement * headspace passes with original arsenal gauges * barrel straightness passes with original arsenal gauges * chamber dimension passes with original arsenal gauges * extractor adjustment passes with original arsenal gauges * crown erosion passes with original arsenal gauges * firing pin protrusion passes with original arsenal gauges. * sights aligned with original military boresight collimeter * rifles are test-fired for function and zeroed * METACOL III satin black finish over manganese phosphate Parkerizing * wood refinished with minimum 5 coats of laquer * includes one 30 round magazine The price for this is $600 and about the most I'd want to spend. I know generally the more money the better quality but for the price what can I expect here? Thanks. |
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Posted: 10/17/2008 3:16:40 PM
WASR FTW
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Posted: 10/17/2008 10:50:27 PM
It sounds as though you're describing one of the builds from Arizona Response Systems. If so, they're a great company and I think you'll be satisfied with it. |
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Posted: 11/26/2008 6:44:36 PM
Are the Orange-G Romys different from WASR-type Romanians? Because my Orange-G kit is quite nice (not that I have fired other variants to compare it to). There were two small problems that had nothing to do with the Romanian parts: the NDS-3 and Tapco G2 have well-known hammer-follow problems, and the rivet hole spacing on the NDS-3 is too far so the dust cover will not stay on. But once I bent the back end of the dust cover out to make it longer and removed metal from the hammer so the disconnector could grab it (while I was at it I polished the trigger hook - hammer interface to eliminate all grittiness in the trigger pull) I don't really have any complaints. The thing was basically unfired when it came out of the bag and the Romanian parts all look and work great.
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spartacus2002
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Posted: 2/4/2009 8:41:10 AM
Originally Posted By Rayman1:
* 7.62x39mm semiautomatic rifles
* Romanian "G" AKM parts demilitarized from new or like new rifles * chrome lined barrels and chambers * NDS-3 US fully heat treated receiver * TAPCO G2 fire control group fitted for proper engagement * TAPCO US gas piston * TAPCO US slant brake * magazine well tested with Romanian, Chinese, Bulgarian waffle, Polish, and Hungarian magazines * magazine catch height adjusted for proper engagement * headspace passes with original arsenal gauges * barrel straightness passes with original arsenal gauges * chamber dimension passes with original arsenal gauges * extractor adjustment passes with original arsenal gauges * crown erosion passes with original arsenal gauges * firing pin protrusion passes with original arsenal gauges. * sights aligned with original military boresight collimeter * rifles are test-fired for function and zeroed * METACOL III satin black finish over manganese phosphate Parkerizing * wood refinished with minimum 5 coats of laquer * includes one 30 round magazine It sounds as though you're describing one of the builds from Arizona Response Systems. If so, they're a great company and I think you'll be satisfied with it. I have an ARS Romanian G, and I am in awe of it. |
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Posted: 2/16/2009 5:44:54 PM
I just bought an AMERICAN MADE IO AK-47c and it is the biggest piece of shit I've ever touched I wish I could return it I wanted a cheap AK for my wife so she wouldn't have to clean it and I wouldn't have to worry about it "working" boy I hope I'm wrong we'll let you know next week after we shoot it- I have a better built bb gun I am TERRIFIED this thing will blow up in my face -the parts are so lose you can literally shake it apart I made a huge mistake I thought MADE IN THE USA meant something and bought it without a pmcs wish me luck it is so light because it is held together with plastic! the barrel is aluminum that will surely melt after 100 straight rounds I hope I am wrong I have run over and ak in Iraq IN MY HUMMVEE and the chinese made ak fired after a dust off! if I drop this AMERICAN MADE IO version it might break
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Posted: 3/9/2009 12:06:26 AM
The single biggest AK purchasing mistake is buying a WASR over the internet or otherwise not examining it before you buy it.
I handpicked my WASR from 3 different rifles and I'm pretty happy with it. My mag wobbles a bit, but that doesn't matter anyways because I hold the magazine when I'm shooting. I put a set of Meprolight Night Sights on it and it shoots consistent, honest to god 3 inch groups at 100 yards with Wolf MC FMJ. Well, from a rest anyway 
I'm a big fan of the GP 10/63 rifles, but I have no experience with the plain WASR 10s. So for all I know, they probably ARE as shitty as everyone says they are. But my GP WASR 10/63 runs runs like a champ. The my Romy opened me up to the AK world and if my $400 rifle is this good, than a $950 Arsenal SGL20 must be fucking fantastic, which is why I plan on buying one in the summer, provided they are still available. And, yes, I would trust my life to my little cheapie GP WASR 10/63. Seriously though, don't EVER fucking buy a WASR without the option to handpick it first. Provided you know what you're doing when you're looking at them, you will have no trouble getting a rugged and reliable (though poorly finished) rifle. Big +1 for the GP WASR 10/63 
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Posted: 3/29/2009 12:05:04 PM
What... no Valmets in the list
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Posted: 4/9/2009 10:58:32 PM
My first two AKs were Polytech Legends. The fixed stock model ran flawless. The Under folder however was not. After polishing the feed ramps and beveling the breech edges, It ran fine. I now do this mod to all my builds. I don't think the single angle chamfer the factories do is enough.
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Posted: 4/23/2009 5:57:08 AM
[Last Edit: 4/23/2009 7:31:22 AM by femgungirl]
Shouldn't a thread like this have a poll?
Also, I'm not sure why people bother listing Yugo or Polish since those are kits with U.S. receivers. most of which vary. Many of the M70s built on DCI receivers are top notch but other century builds have a bad reputation, at least from what I've read in several forums all over the web. The tantal is the same, alot of complaints along with alot of praise, since it depends on the builder and the U.S. receiver. Myself, I think it's more about particular models during particular years, e.g. the SAR 1 for 1999 and 2000 didn't have a great reputation but the 2001-2003 seem okay. I like the Polytech Legend, the GLADs, pre-ban Hungarians, SLRs, and Valmets. Lately, I've been looking into the VEPRs and may'be getting another Saiga SLG. I think it's the some of the WASRs that have given the Romanian models a bad name but I've had fun on the range with a Romy G last summer. I haven't tried any Arsenal SGLs, Norincos or a Maadis/MISRs yet. Usually people freak out when they see a girl getting into shooting AKs on the range, even more than my shotguns for some reason. Oh, one way to look at which are the good AKs pre-2001 is to compare which ones California banned between 1989 and 2000.  |
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Posted: 5/11/2009 12:02:11 PM
Originally Posted By KMFDM:
The Poles I talked to in A-stan carried M4s (Canadian mfr. I believe)-they told me the M4 was more reliable than their Tantals not the other AKs mind you-they told me just the Tantal. The Lituanian soldiers used the G-36 because the said it worked more reliably than the *&^%&() Polish stuff they were issued-I deleted the expletives that were used. That is not good reviews for an AK IMHO. poles with tantals in A-stan carrying M4.. man stop taking weed. M4 are only in GROM use, i seen thousands pics of poles in A-stan, Iraq and i didnt seen any soldier who carrying something different than beryl. no one ever offered tantals/beryls to lithuania, and they propably never touchd them |
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Posted: 6/10/2009 3:01:44 PM
How have Arsenal Inc rifles been recently? I know their milled rifles have a good reputation.
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Posted: 7/19/2009 1:11:39 PM
[Last Edit: 7/19/2009 1:12:16 PM by Newaza]
I just bought an Arsenal/Saiga SGL20, and when I inspected it at the dealer's, it was top notch in every regard. The fitting of all parts was excellent, and the sights lined up perfectly (no canting whatsoever). I have an Arsenal SAM7 carbine that I bought about 5 years ago, and so I am somewhat spoiled. Suffice it to say that this SGL20 exceeded my expectations.
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Posted: 8/26/2009 8:34:59 PM
The Israelis can take a common Russian AK and strip, polish, etc, and turn it into the nicest AK ever was.And, the thing is smooth as silk as far as recoil and operation.Of course, most if not all were milled AK's to start with.
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Posted: 10/14/2009 9:58:54 AM
Wow lots of imformation !!!
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Posted: 11/4/2009 10:51:52 PM
Chinese.
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Posted: 12/8/2009 10:22:18 PM
best AK47s are th eones with milled recievers, they are built with better qaulity , also are more expensive.
i am thinking about buying an AK47 with a milled reciever, but they cost alot i might get one with a 1mm stamped reciever for my first Ak. wonder if the chrome lined barrels are good i was told they affect accuracy. |
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Posted: 12/9/2009 1:02:13 PM
[Last Edit: 12/9/2009 1:04:34 PM by hardbargin]
darn man,
right on you are the only one so far that hit the nail !!! all i own is chinese and i had a stryer maddi 1984 and it was great also. i never did like the akm stock. love the chinese !!!!! i cannot spell steyer? i loved the trigger on the maddi and it was very accurate w/handloads |
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Posted: 12/10/2009 9:41:26 AM
[Last Edit: 12/10/2009 9:41:46 AM by sjglenn09]
Go with that ARS G kit. You won't be disappointed.
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Posted: 3/25/2010 4:11:43 PM
I am sorry but my attention span only carries me to page 4. I know that Yugo's are not crome lined, but when Century imports them and they are sold as GP1975 do they rebarrel them with a chrome lined barrel? |
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Posted: 3/25/2010 5:01:27 PM
Originally Posted By 19kilocav:
I just bought an AMERICAN MADE IO AK-47c and it is the biggest piece of shit I've ever touched I wish I could return it I wanted a cheap AK for my wife so she wouldn't have to clean it and I wouldn't have to worry about it "working" boy I hope I'm wrong we'll let you know next week after we shoot it- I have a better built bb gun I am TERRIFIED this thing will blow up in my face -the parts are so lose you can literally shake it apart I made a huge mistake I thought MADE IN THE USA meant something and bought it without a pmcs wish me luck it is so light because it is held together with plastic! the barrel is aluminum that will surely melt after 100 straight rounds I hope I am wrong I have run over and ak in Iraq IN MY HUMMVEE and the chinese made ak fired after a dust off! if I drop this AMERICAN MADE IO version it might break DAMN! Here are some periods for you..................................................................... don't be afraid to use them. |
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