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Posted: 5/8/2005 1:51:52 PM EDT
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Valmet barrels aren't chromed either. 
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Posted: 5/8/2005 1:54:48 PM EDT
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You know what I meant..........  
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Posted: 5/8/2005 2:06:29 PM EDT
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PA, USA
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Posted: 5/10/2005 8:10:55 AM EDT
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Thanks for all the info! I am brand new to the AK seen and will attempt my first build on an AMD-65. As I understand it, I will be starting with a good quality kit. After I get back to work ( recovering from back operation), now I'll know what kind of AK to buy allready built.
 Great input from a great site!!!
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Posted: 5/13/2005 3:31:46 PM EDT
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VEPR .308 early model wood. I love that gun. Excellent construction, clean, and beau-T-ful! And get this, I can actually hit what I'm aiming at, unlike a 7.62X39 AK!
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UT, USA
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Posted: 5/13/2005 6:33:29 PM EDT
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I have had a few AK's in my gun safe in the past. I have a Vepr K and love it. It is heavy. The Krebs KTR is my end-all-be-all AK.
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MN, USA
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Posted: 5/29/2005 11:54:20 AM EDT
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I had a Norinco AK and like an idiot I got rid of it. I sure wish I had it back.
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Posted: 6/1/2005 11:00:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: xcibes]
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People around this forum seem to despise Romanian AKs and while the current crop may be absolute CRAP, I have an Intrac MkII that is absolutely fantastic, true, the finish was not all that great, but the wood was nice, and it shot very well. It was a solid gun. I had it converted to an AK74 by Chris at AK-USA and it looks even better, the enamel used by Chris is fantrastic and I will have him use it for all my future AKs from him. Also, one more thing that most people don't mentin is that the early Romanian AKs used military receivers, they had the indentation for the third pin AND they had both bumps under the triger pin as the altest Russian AKs. The dimples look nice, and finally these are the only AK receivers I know of that have absolutely NO import marks. All the marks are on the rear sight base and the trunnion. This makes a huge difference, at least for me. In fact,I like it so much that I just bought a new one from a fellow board member. Also, I just saw the SLR105 at Templar's gun store and these, although they have a real receiver have only ONE hump and no third pin indentation....I'm still buying on though...
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FL, USA
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Posted: 6/4/2005 3:24:09 PM EDT
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I have owned a Bulgarian SA93 for years. It was imported by KBI I think. I think its the best AK I have ever shot.
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UT, USA
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Posted: 6/4/2005 8:43:00 PM EDT
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I just picked up a MAADI, it looks like it was imported by Intrec, i was told it was pre importation but I'm not sure, it does have a side folder and a slanted flash hider. So far it shoots great, I have had no problems and its pretty dead on. If anybody has any info on this AK it would be greatly appriciated.
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 6/4/2005 10:16:39 PM EDT
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I have a Mak90 and a Maadi MISR. The Mak90 was way better in fit and finish than the Maadi before I refinished it, replaced the stock and fixed the front sight. I still like the Mak90 better. They are very well built and extremely reliable and they used to be dirt cheap. I just saw a used Mak90 at a gun store today, they want $300 for it. I just might buy it.
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MT, USA
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Posted: 6/5/2005 12:56:40 AM EDT
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99.999% of the Intracs were caught on the docks and "demilitarized". If the bayonet lug is shaved off it's not "pre-ban"... I actually had three(consecutively serial numbered) at the start of the ban, that still had their full lugs and no muzzle nut tacked on. The intracs have a really crappy finish but for about $100 bucks you can get it refinished. For less than that I built my sandblaster, bought an airbrush and now I'm just waiting to get my Gun Kote to finish up one I saved from the scrapheap ... |
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Posted: 6/9/2005 12:17:03 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/9/2005 3:07:03 PM EDT
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Heavy RPK receivers...they kick ass! |
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Posted: 6/9/2005 4:58:39 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/9/2005 5:16:20 PM EDT
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Actually the SAIGA's use standard 1mm thick AKM style receivers, the VEPR's use the 1.5mm RPK style receiver. The SAIGA is an excellent receiver. |
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Posted: 6/16/2005 1:58:36 AM EDT
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So where do Vectors rate? Or are they considered polish?
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Posted: 6/22/2005 4:38:42 PM EDT
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Hasn't there been some QC problems with the Arsenal M7 lately? I remember some bruhaha on another board a few months ago, maybe gunco.
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Posted: 6/22/2005 5:38:08 PM EDT
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Nope, the bruhaha was over a pretty big miscommunication between Arsenal and the shop I work for. No worries with the M7 series. 
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Posted: 6/29/2005 1:44:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ttman]
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i have to agree on the chinese AKs. heavy, quality AKs w/nice strong springs, thicker reciever & barrel. my fav is the 1 w/the big folding spike bayonet, milled or stamped.
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Posted: 7/16/2005 9:24:25 PM EDT
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Hey guys I am new to AKs so I am checking out what is right for me.
I am looking for a quality rifle. I am between a Arsenal SAM 7 and a SAR1. Difference in price is 50 bucks. I figure go with the SAM 7 even though it doesnt have a threaded barrel or bay lug but very few rounds. What do you experts think ? Thanks for your opinions John |
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Posted: 7/16/2005 10:38:54 PM EDT
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No question about it, for $50.00 definitely jump on the SA-M7. Even with the "sharkgill" brake, it's an effective flash suppressor as well as a muzzle brake. |
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Posted: 7/16/2005 10:41:11 PM EDT
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Easiest question in the world to answer..
ARSENAL |
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Posted: 7/16/2005 10:44:32 PM EDT
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Well, I can only compare between my Polytech Legend and my Norinco MAK-90.
The Polytech is a Ferrari compared to the Norinco Volkswagen. I absolutely LOVE my Polytech! 
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USA
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Posted: 7/17/2005 9:46:31 AM EDT
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Hmmmm, here is my perspective from a select fire view point
1 Tie: Russian/Bulgarian 2 North Korean (accurate as sin) 3 Hungarian 4 Romanian 5 Yugoslavian 6 East German 7 Iraqi 8 Tie Chinese/Egyptian-both have problems that I don't like from time to time. 9 Polish |
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Posted: 7/22/2005 9:21:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Jeepcreep]
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Hey long time no see! ....got any more sweet pics to post? The last ones you posted were out of this world! I am confused a tad by your list 5 & 7 are the same guns. The Tabuk is the same as the M70 series Yugo. The only difference I noted was the Republican guard logo where the Zastava logo was. Somewhere in my archives I have a pic of a Tabuk I examined, I will try to look for it. |
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Posted: 7/23/2005 6:39:57 AM EDT
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I thought the Iraqis' made their own copy of the Yugo, perhaps I am mistaken. The Iraqi ones I had seen did not seem to work as well as the Yugo ones-perhaps contracts weren't quite a good as mil. prod Zastava.
As for pics. all of my discs w/pics are stateside at the moment I will post some in the future when I get back. Might be awhile though. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/23/2005 3:21:44 PM EDT
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How'd you find out that a North Korean AK is accurate? Where can one find a NK (except NK itself) AK outside of North korea? Ben |
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Posted: 7/23/2005 9:25:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: garr]
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+1. I was thinking the same thing, But then I remembered seeing a couple of NK AK Kits for sale not to long ago! So somehow they got out, Probably confiscated (Their Previous owners are now busy with their 72 virgins) from the PLO, Demilled & sold as parts. |
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Posted: 7/23/2005 11:13:41 PM EDT
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Simple.... KMFDM is somewhere "out in the world". The weapons he has his hands on ...well lets just say their former owners no longer have a need for them.
Also....I have seen a demilled Korean kit, as well as a Tabuk kit sold here in the US of A ....lemme see if I still have the pics. |
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USA
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Posted: 7/24/2005 5:31:58 PM EDT
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Remember, I said "selective fire"
They were not kits they were the real deal, I run into many things in my travels. Also NK PPSh 41s are pretty darned accurate also. |
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MA, USA
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Posted: 7/25/2005 10:47:00 PM EDT
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As far as accuracy is concerned, for the 7,62 variants, my vote goes to the Yugo/Serb (Zastava) M-70/B1; the only variant which I have seen a considerable difference in accuracy... Polish, Russian, Bulgarian, DDR & Hungarian - differences being almost non-existant in regards to accuracy. I've never seen a Romanian or Chinese 7.62 variant that out shot any of the prior mentioned. Egyptian = the worst. I've never fired a NK variant so I can't comment there; but, from what I've handled - wasn't too impressed w/ the quality.
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MN, USA
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Posted: 7/26/2005 7:34:53 PM EDT
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Going my materials and construction a Yugo AK would probably be the most accurate. No chrome lining=more accurate. The heavy duty construction would also help accuracy.
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Posted: 7/27/2005 1:59:55 AM EDT
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Actually, they are exported to quite a few places. |
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SC, USA
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Posted: 7/28/2005 12:30:57 AM EDT
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USA
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Posted: 7/28/2005 2:33:13 AM EDT
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The NK is as ugly as sin but I could not get the few I've run into to stop working. Chinese are peculiar never know for sure when you get a good one and their springs suck they "set" too quickly, I've never heard a good thing about a Tantal from anyone who had one inflicted upon them. Egyptians have a lot of FTFeed probs in my experience. East German ok. Hungarian a bit of experience with them and I like them alot. Romanian Military production are pretty solid. Russian is what everybody wants for good reason. The Bulgies' are very nice indeed and a pretty close tie for the Russian.
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CO, USA
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Posted: 7/29/2005 3:55:30 AM EDT
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I have shot several kinds of AK and I like the Hungarian SA85M the best. Fit and finish was top rate an the wood was BEAUTIFUL!!!! The only AK that I have seen that was better made then the Hungarian was an Arsenel but at more then twice the price.
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Posted: 8/7/2005 5:22:01 PM EDT
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I just ordered a Polish underfolder parts kit from Bob Williams that will hopefully fall somewhere in the mid-80's date-wise. I suppose no matter how well I do on the build using a Global 1.0mm receiver I'll be at the bottom of the list, or was this a good time for polish kits and since this will be rebuilt on a nice receiver, maybe the outlook is good?
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Posted: 8/7/2005 6:50:40 PM EDT
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The Poles are right up there at the top of the heap when it comes to military AK's.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 8/7/2005 9:22:48 PM EDT
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How are the Ohio Rapid Fire AKs? Are they considered Bulgarian?
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Posted: 8/7/2005 9:26:13 PM EDT
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That absolutely depends on what part kit they use to build the rifle, and what receiver. You might be talking about the WASR-10's that they sell after they "clean them up" some. They are Romanian......and the WASR's are generally considered bottom of the barrel, but can be decent guns with some TLC. If they've been given Ohio Rapid Fire TLC they should be ok. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 8/7/2005 9:56:27 PM EDT
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It was one that I saw in a Joeken advertisement, but I just found their site and it is indeed made with Bulgarian parts, with the receiver, gas piston, and other parts made in the US.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 8/8/2005 12:20:51 AM EDT
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...not the best of reputations, I just see.
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USA
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Posted: 8/14/2005 4:33:14 AM EDT
[Last Edit: KMFDM]
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The Poles I talked to in A-stan carried M4s (Canadian mfr. I believe)-they told me the M4 was more reliable than their Tantals not the other AKs mind you-they told me just the Tantal.
The Lituanian soldiers used the G-36 because the said it worked more reliably than the *&^%&() Polish stuff they were issued-I deleted the expletives that were used. That is not good reviews for an AK IMHO. |
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AL, USA
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Posted: 8/29/2005 11:17:13 AM EDT
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Thanks for this thread you guys. I'm learning what I need to know here too.
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NC, USA
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Posted: 8/30/2005 11:08:49 AM EDT
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Bah my cheapo romanian wasr-10 has ate about 2k rounds and is still in flawless condition, well flawless mechanically at least. ahhahaha the damn reciever and barrel have been invaded by rust. But who cares its a freaking ak47 not a show gun. As long as the thing pumps ammo and functions properly im happy.
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GA, USA
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Posted: 10/15/2005 10:07:19 PM EDT
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Keep letting it rust, it will do more than just ruin it'slooks. I am happy you're not letting a nicer rifle rust away.......... 
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 10/23/2005 1:09:12 AM EDT
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OK. Your opinions on the Gordon Technologies SLR-100 with milled Bulgarian receiver?
Thanks. Bud |
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UT, USA
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Posted: 11/3/2005 10:00:13 AM EDT
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I don't agree with the Romanian being below Egypt at all. I have more experience with the Egyptian AKs then any other (+ I own two Romanian) and I have never seen or used a Maadi that I thought was anything other than the lowest AK. Granted I haven't ever used a WASR and the only Maadi I fired that had Steyr parts had a crooked gas tube and didn't like to eject. I don't believe that the Maadis are all total crap; I just dispute that the average Romanian rifles should be listed beneath them.
I'd rate most Bulgarian rifles above any other I've fired (the action even feels smoother) but I dislike one cosmetic thing about the Arsenal rifles: the finish barely lasts longer than a Century CETME. |
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