 Jeepcreep 
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Posted: 5/7/2003 9:21:03 AM
THE IMAGE ABOVE IS A PAID ADVERTISEMENT ALL others in this forum will be nuked!...you have been forewarned! No real names are to be posted here! Also No shit slinging! keep things on a factual basis, or we will all be homeless! |
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Posted: 5/7/2003 9:32:44 AM
Hey, RotDorn - where in TN are you located? I'm near Knoxville.
Well, my rifle was supposed to be done and shipped last week (April 30th). Still waiting. Was told it will be shipped on Monday or Tuesday of this week. Today is Wednesday and no word yet. I won't air my dirty laundry here, though some of you know of my severe financial situation. Was supposed to get the rifle 2 months ago to pay off some overdue bills. Now those bills are VERY overdue and my situation is getting desperate. Hope the rifle has shipped. |
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Posted: 5/7/2003 10:36:06 AM
Was told it will be shipped on Monday or Tuesday of this week. Today is Wednesday and no word yet.
hmmmm? keep us posted. i feel for ya! |
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Posted: 5/7/2003 10:38:59 AM
Agree, we only need one thread. Can someone post the KAG link and contact info here and whatever other relevant links might be useful.
I sent my request to the KAG two weeks ago and received a call several days later from Jerry Howland confirming he had received my request and documentation he said thing were moving along and I'd be notified when something happened. If you have parts or money with SAI I suggest you send copies of your receipts and e-mails to the KAG to cover your A** and insure your stuff is included in what ever action may be pending. |
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Posted: 5/7/2003 11:01:43 AM
Thanks, Campy - you more than anyone understands my current situation - I appreciate the support. BTW, I don't think I'll be able to make Bulletfest due to this. I'm very sorry - I really wanted to go this year.
I'll keep my fingers crossed that this rifle will be arriving this week. |
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Posted: 5/7/2003 11:07:17 AM
State of Kansas - Attorney General's Office Consumer Protection / Antitrust Division 120 SW 10th Ave. 2nd Floor Topeka, KS 66612-1597 attn: Special Agent Jerry Howland email: HOWLANDJ@ksag.org Phone: (785)296-3751 Fax: (785)291-3699 online KAG complaint form: http://www.accesskansas.org/ksag/contents/consumer/complaint.htm
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Posted: 5/7/2003 11:08:38 AM
Well, i took that "April's" offer for the refund minus shipping. As i expected, the reply letter stated, that "if the new completion date is at the end of june, that does not mean rifles were not touched." So i will not get all my money back. They can guarantee to ship everything back by the end of the month. I wonder why. So i guess i'll start preparing my paperwork for KAG and others, and if i wont get anything then, i am filing too. I wonder what kind of reply other people got, after they took this refund offer?
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Posted: 5/7/2003 11:40:27 AM
What was the refund offer? I got the blanket e-mail from April, but never bothered to reply. Thanks for any info.
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Posted: 5/7/2003 11:47:36 AM
i asked for an itemized list of the performed work and a price. dont know what will be a reply. but i have an idea. well...we all probably have the same feeling about this offer, but i will only post facts. ill let you all know. so far noone received anything as promised again by April, except one person, and the only thing was done were engravings and stamps on a rifle.
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hbarski
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Posted: 5/7/2003 1:48:43 PM
[Last Edit: 5/7/2003 1:51:33 PM by hbarski]
If anyone needs any specific information that was included in some of the "SAI-thrashed" threads, let us know and we will see if we can get it for you.
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Posted: 5/7/2003 5:32:20 PM
www1.ifccfbi.gov/index.asp is the link to the FBI's internet fraud complaint. If you were defrauded through the internet via Gary's website/email, or through one of the websites/forums that helped perpetrate that fraud, then the FBI link is the place to fill out a complaint. If you believe a website was complicit in the fraud make sure you mention that too. The whole thing is relatively simple to fill out too. |
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Posted: 5/7/2003 5:34:49 PM
Comrade, I too took April up on her offer. Here is the email that I received from SAI.
No problem. I'll get your things boxed up. But I'm telling everyone that I'm only guaranteeing that they ship by the end of the month. Mainly due to the fact that I'll be boxing these up at night after my son is in bed. I'll email you the tracking info as soon as it's ready to ship. Thanks, April Edog |
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Posted: 5/7/2003 5:44:33 PM
It will be interesting to see what happens, I suspect April May be Gary. In anycase those of you making the road trip to SAI please take some good photos/video of Gary if you can. Contrary to what "April" reported I still think the Bridal shop comes from Gary's "wife's" side of the family. And given the legalities of the marital situation, I would not put it past him to bail. So take good photos. In addition, if some one could give GPS cordinates for the homestead, that might prove usefull too.
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Posted: 5/7/2003 6:36:47 PM
Was the (April) offer for non KAG folks? I never got that email .WD
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Posted: 5/7/2003 7:25:44 PM
I got the April e-mail and I have filed. I even told them to keep the money I sent them because I knew it would be a challenge to get any cash back after a year and a half and asked her to just ship the stuff back. It will immediately be for sale when I get it back and I will wash my hands of the whole situation. Lessons learned should not be repeated.
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Posted: 5/7/2003 7:41:29 PM
From April's post:
If anybody receives anything back, please let us know here. |
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Posted: 5/7/2003 7:46:37 PM
I haven't filed with the KAG, and I never heard of the offer either. |
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Posted: 5/7/2003 8:28:29 PM
I posted on SAI's private customer forum asking about the status of my rifle, with many others doing the same. After we all waited days, April replied to each post separately giving shipping dates for each project. Mine was the only one that said, "Gary will contact you personally about your rifle." I wonder what that is all about? It has been a few days and I've heard nothing...
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Posted: 5/7/2003 9:01:16 PM
Received one verbatim to this one. End of the month......... |
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Posted: 5/7/2003 9:08:56 PM
I will drop over dead
 if any of you get anything from April. This type of stall is a common tactic for this smith. Duck and cover boys and prepare for the inevitable sad tale of woe. [>Q]Regards, Gary |
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krinkfreak
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Posted: 5/7/2003 10:26:11 PM
[Last Edit: 5/7/2003 10:43:08 PM by krinkfreak]
Didn't AK-47 Nutz come online and agree to finance the "Return" shipping costs? I seem to remember the thread......
www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=4&f=64&t=55588&w=searchPop or www.gunsnet.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=115741&highlight=informer So it appears SAI is finally returning parts...great news for all of you. What about all the deposits? Solstice_Sweetie stated that would have to be worked out separately.....payments I believe she said....
Good to see things are finally working out... KF |
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Posted: 5/7/2003 11:28:26 PM
well...my second email from "April" stated that work was already started on my stuff..hehe, giving a fact that i was told my rifles are complete a few times, no wonders...so that is a warning that i will not get a full refund if any. At this point i just want my parts back, preferrably not worked on by that team. The date to send my parts back was set by the end of the month, and i know few others with the same "return date". If ill have any news i'll post them
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Posted: 5/8/2003 12:03:57 AM
"FACT: Gary is not holding anyone's stuff hostage. If you want your precious guns back email me at AprilSAI@hotmail.com and I'll send the things right back to you. Good riddance."
The thing that I don't get is why does "I'll send then right back to you. Good riddance." Mean the end of the month? Edog |
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Posted: 5/8/2003 1:14:12 AM
We at russia have a good saying that roughly translates to " Happy people dont feel like time flies" :)
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Posted: 5/8/2003 6:17:18 AM
I received an email saying my rifle was finished but during test-firing was having a jamming problem. I was told to have patience, but not given any ETA on when the rifle would be pronounced fit to be shipped. Given my current situation and emotional state, I don't really know WHAT to do right now.
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Posted: 5/8/2003 7:04:05 AM
Greywolf, I was given that same story over a year ago ('finished, but it's jamming..I apologize, but I can't send it out in this shape'). It just doesn't add up...if you supposedly built over 100 rifles, then why are so many jamming? Even *I* built a rifle that worked fine on first attempt. Truth: it's not jamming, it's just not finished.
File with KAG. If Gary can't meet a gentlemen's agreement with KAG, then he misses an OFFICIAL date with KAG two months ago, then why would any of you expect his wife to suddenly give you a truthful date? take care, Tec |
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