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Posted: 12/26/2013 4:17:29 PM EDT
Kalashikov was a fraud,
but don't let history get in your way. Facts burst a lot of balloons. Take care of your balloons. After all, if you can't hold onto your propaganda, then all you have left is the ugly truth, and the truth always gets in the way. Truth, is such a pain in the a_ _.
Kalashnikov:  Another “Hero” invented by the USSR, the failed communist “paradise”.
Kalashnikov was simply one of millions of necessary propaganda deceits by the USSR.
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Kalashnikov consistently denied, for over 50 years, that the AK47 was derived from the Wehrmacht's Stg44.
Of course, that is a lie, Kalashnikov having finally admitted in 2009 that the captured German weapons designer, Hug Schmeisser "helped" design the famous AK47 which strongly resembles Schmeisser's brilliantly designed Stg44, also borrowing the rotating bolt from the U.S. M1 Carbine and Garand.

Hugo Schmeisser, the German designer of the Stg44, was actually with Kalashnikov when Kalashnokov "invented" the AK.  Schmeisser was a brilliant engineer, designing many rifles, with different actions, over many decades.  Schmeisser and other captured German weapons engineers were shipped east to work with Kalashnikov.  The "Hero" Kalashnokov, who lacked a high school education, "invented" only one action, copying “his” action to other derivative rifles.
Facts get in the way for Mikhail Kalashnikov.  The AK was Schmeisser’s.  USSR communist propaganda has taken many hits since the failure of the soviet state. History and facts are not kind to propaganda.  Kalashnikov lived for over 50 years as a propaganda creation.  Hugo Schmeisser died in 1953, behind the Iron Curtain in the Soviet occupied sector, in Suhl, East Germany..
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Kalashnikov consistently denied that the 7.62x39 cartridge was derived from the 8mm kurz of the tg44.
Of course, that is a lie.  The AK round was derived directly from the intermediate combat cartridge (7.92x33) of the Stg44.
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Kalashnikov consistently denied that the 5.56 was a superior cartridge to the 7.62x39.
Of course, it was, the commies switching to a very similar round in the AK74 which replace the AK47 in the Warsaw pact armed forces in 1974.
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Commie history books also have commies inventing the airplane, steam engine, micro-processor, telephone, telegraph, etc. You name it, and the commies claimed credit for inventing it.
  Source:
Kalahanikov’s 2009 admission was documented in two significant Post-Commie journals.  The original article published in the Russian magazine Life; the same article published in Ziua, the second largest daily newspaper in Romania.
Link Posted: 12/26/2013 4:30:07 PM EDT
[#1]
At this point... I fail to understand why this matters!

This is the 3rd or 4th topic I have read on this. Each coming across like this is a relevant major controversy!

Link Posted: 12/26/2013 4:44:34 PM EDT
[#2]
13er
Link Posted: 12/26/2013 4:55:18 PM EDT
[#3]
There's three different spellings of Kalashnikov in that excerpt
Link Posted: 12/26/2013 4:56:38 PM EDT
[#4]
The AK-47 may have been inspired by the STG-44, but in no way was it a copy, clone or even a close copy.

So that part does not make Kalashnikov a fraud.  

Copying other parts of other designs?  Well, that safety lever sure does look like it was designed by JMB.

Even that doesn't make me think that Kalashnikov was a fraud.

You will have to try again.  Perhaps Schmeisser did do all of the important work.  This certainly hasn't been proven, though.  If he supplied some of the input into the design, that still doesn't make Kalashnikov a fraud in my book.  Plenty of designs out there that were group projects.
Link Posted: 12/26/2013 4:56:44 PM EDT
[#5]
Can we get this to be a dupe and locked?
Link Posted: 12/26/2013 5:03:54 PM EDT
[#6]
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The AK-47 may have been inspired by the STG-44, but in no way was it a copy, clone or even a close copy.

So that part does not make Kalashnikov a fraud.  

Copying other parts of other designs?  Well, that safety lever sure does look like it was designed by JMB.

Even that doesn't make me think that Kalashnikov was a fraud.

You will have to try again.  Perhaps Schmeisser did do all of the important work.  This certainly hasn't been proven, though.  If he supplied some of the input into the design, that still doesn't make Kalashnikov a fraud in my book.  Plenty of designs out there that were group projects.
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Don't feed the trolls.
Link Posted: 12/26/2013 5:05:54 PM EDT
[#7]
Great 2nd post retard. Good thing your article is so full of facts. Oh yeah, it isnt
Link Posted: 12/26/2013 5:28:00 PM EDT
[#8]


Exploded diagram of a type 1 AK-47



Field Stripped Stg-44.

Totally different system of operation; totally different breakdown. Not even close. THe AK may have adopted a few things, like the short radius sights, but for the most part, it's has much more in common with the G3 than anything else.
Link Posted: 12/26/2013 5:42:15 PM EDT
[#9]
Wrong Forum and a post that is just wrong on so many levels.
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