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Posted: 9/6/2011 11:38:01 AM
[Last Edit: 9/6/2011 12:55:01 PM by Cobra762]
Sinatra your Russian laminate looks amazing. That's the exact color I have been trying to get for some time now. You are the only person besides Z Recto who I have seen produce such an outstanding color. I've been experimenting with the ritt dye and alcohol method, along with some others, and I'm definitely going to try this pine tar and shellac process on some sets I'm working on now. I have some Russian sets and one new Ironwood set I want to do like this, all laminates. I have most of what I need, but I'm still not sure where to get the pine tar for this. If you don't mind, what kind do you suggest? Can't be that hard to come by here in the good ol Tarheel state!
Edit to add > NM, found yavlar's thread on another forum...  |
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Posted: 9/15/2011 4:22:17 PM
[Last Edit: 9/15/2011 4:23:00 PM by Sinatra]
Originally Posted By Cobra762:
Sinatra your Russian laminate looks amazing. That's the exact color I have been trying to get for some time now. You are the only person besides Z Recto who I have seen produce such an outstanding color. I've been experimenting with the ritt dye and alcohol method, along with some others, and I'm definitely going to try this pine tar and shellac process on some sets I'm working on now. I have some Russian sets and one new Ironwood set I want to do like this, all laminates. I have most of what I need, but I'm still not sure where to get the pine tar for this. If you don't mind, what kind do you suggest? Can't be that hard to come by here in the good ol Tarheel state!
Edit to add > NM, found yavlar's thread on another forum... Thanks Cobra! And for those of you who'd like to know where to purchase it. Here you go... Pine Tar |
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Posted: 10/5/2011 10:05:48 AM
[Last Edit: 10/5/2011 10:15:40 AM by Sinatra]
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Posted: 10/5/2011 10:15:22 AM
Wich red dye did you put in the shelace ryet-dye or some other red dye 
I use Transtint mahogany. 
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Posted: 12/10/2011 1:37:37 AM
Just got my first AK, an all matching WAS 10/63. The wood is damn ugly and this thread is greatly informative!
Sinatra, holy cow! You are amazing. I only hope I can get my stock to look half as good as yours!  |
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Posted: 12/14/2011 2:40:19 PM
Originally Posted By aermotor:
Just got my first AK, an all matching WAS 10/63. The wood is damn ugly and this thread is greatly informative! Sinatra, holy cow! You are amazing. I only hope I can get my stock to look half as good as yours! Why, thank you. Make sure to post pics when you finish. |
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Posted: 1/26/2012 10:45:50 PM
Has anyone tried using a polyurethane after the pine tar? Wondering if there would be any adhesion problems? The shelac looks a litlle tricky to get right / smooth. On my old mosin the shelac is pretty brittle and flakes off easily, possibly due to the age but does your top coat hold up? The end result looks amazing none the less!
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Posted: 1/27/2012 8:20:17 AM
Originally Posted By jat428:
Has anyone tried using a polyurethane after the pine tar? Wondering if there would be any adhesion problems? The shelac looks a litlle tricky to get right / smooth. On my old mosin the shelac is pretty brittle and flakes off easily, possibly due to the age but does your top coat hold up? The end result looks amazing none the less! So far, so good. |
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Posted: 2/22/2012 3:17:33 PM
Originally Posted By Seven_Six_Two:
Originally Posted By Sinatra:
Here is a set of AKS-74U hand guards that I used the pine tar method with. These ones weren't sanded a lot and I went for more of a dark red color. http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/9983/p1020622w.jpg http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/4708/p1020630v.jpg http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/6632/p1020624vg.jpg http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/5011/p1020610l.jpg http://img848.imageshack.us/img848/4519/p1020663e.jpg http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/7640/p1020670u.jpg http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/1528/p1020665b.jpg http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/6683/p1020649u.jpg http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/9933/p1020662x.jpg http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/4879/p1020640i.jpg now this is exactly what im looking for, what type of shellac did you use on that krinkov? ive got a romy paratrooper lower handguard that im trying to duplicate out of birch plywood and then match to a soviet set of the same color as that krink. very nice job sir by the way Thank you. I used Garnet shellac for those krink handguards. |
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Posted: 2/29/2012 5:19:09 PM
Originally Posted By Sinatra:
Wich red dye did you put in the shelace ryet-dye or some other red dye
I use Transtint mahogany.
lol sorry to copy your process but its damn amazing  did you use transtint brown mahogany or red mahogany? |
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Posted: 3/1/2012 8:25:28 AM
Originally Posted By Seven_Six_Two:
Originally Posted By Sinatra:
Wich red dye did you put in the shelace ryet-dye or some other red dye
I use Transtint mahogany.
lol sorry to copy your process but its damn amazing did you use transtint brown mahogany or red mahogany?I usually just use the red mahogany. I hope that helps. |
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Posted: 3/2/2012 3:19:16 PM
Originally Posted By Sinatra:
Originally Posted By Seven_Six_Two:
Originally Posted By Sinatra:
Wich red dye did you put in the shelace ryet-dye or some other red dye
I use Transtint mahogany.
lol sorry to copy your process but its damn amazing did you use transtint brown mahogany or red mahogany?I usually just use the red mahogany. I hope that helps. it definatly will thankyou sir, ill post pics once ive finished shaping the handguard and got it finished |
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Posted: 3/4/2012 10:20:05 PM
Originally Posted By Seven_Six_Two:
Originally Posted By Sinatra:
Originally Posted By Seven_Six_Two:
Originally Posted By Sinatra:
Wich red dye did you put in the shelace ryet-dye or some other red dye
I use Transtint mahogany.
lol sorry to copy your process but its damn amazing did you use transtint brown mahogany or red mahogany?I usually just use the red mahogany. I hope that helps. it definatly will thankyou sir, ill post pics once ive finished shaping the handguard and got it finished Cool. I'm lookin' forward to it. |
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Posted: 2/8/2013 11:01:31 AM
Sorry to resurrect an old thread, but been looking around and this method is definitely the most authentic finish! It makes sense too! The Russians used their own amber shellac and that's it. Some were diluted down a bit, some were less diluted. Their amber was much darker then our current options. Props and taggity.
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