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Posted: 7/1/2008 10:49:34 PM
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THE IMAGE ABOVE IS A PAID ADVERTISEMENT I just got my folding stock trunion adapter from Primary Weapons Systems and it seems to be a very nice peice. I ordered a side folding M4 style adjustable stock from ACE and it should be here in a few days. I'm also going to add a set of the Ultimak upper and lower rails so all of you wood lovers out there please turn your heads now. I plan to do an illustrated , step by step article here on how to install the stock/rails and where to buy the goods from. please note that absolutely no wood will be harmed during this project, and NO, I dont want to sell the wood either   Here we go....  First step is to remove the two flathead screws from the stock  Then remove the 1/2 size bolt from the stock. The stock will come off after this .   This is what the rear truniun looks like after the stock has been removed. Its alot more sturdy that I thought it would be. Those Yugoslavians know what there doing.  And here is the Primary Weapons Systems trunion adaptor. A very nice piece that is designed to be a press fit. So it will take some pressure to get it in. heres a link to buy this piece.... http://www.primaryweapons.com/store/pc/viewPrd.asp?idcategory=4&idproduct=20  I installed the insert last night.  With a few taps of a mallet the insert seated tightly.  Then I find that the hexhead bolt that came with the insert is way too short  This is what it looked like just pushed in, not one thread holding it.  See update below....... |
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Posted: 7/1/2008 10:59:44 PM
Going to put a red-dot on the Ultimak? I have a SPOT red-dot on an Ultimak on one of my Romys and it is the cat's ass.
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Posted: 7/2/2008 11:03:31 AM
A red dot is in the plans. I just dont know which one. I've had a few Eotechs so I like them alot but it seems a bit heavy to be mounted out that far on the weapon.
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Posted: 7/2/2008 1:04:27 PM
Tease
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Posted: 7/2/2008 5:33:27 PM
Eo's cant handle the heat.......
I've done the PMS/ACE modification.......you will have to fold left. It's a nice set up, works well. I used the locking folder. Ultimak is next on my list, but I'm going to use a Burris FastFire. I dont like forward assists.....I hold the mag....but I want a light and did'nt want to screw with the hard to replace wood guards. So I got the century poly guards and I"m going to install a rail on one side to mount a light. No pics right now........gotta do it when the wife's not around......if you know what I mean. John |
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Posted: 7/3/2008 2:30:52 AM
nice thread, I'm looking forward for the updates
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Posted: 7/3/2008 2:39:44 AM
Hhould be pretty cool. I have an M70AB2 and the only modification I have is a good tactical light on a barrel mount
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Posted: 7/4/2008 4:05:15 PM
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So I found a button head 1 inch stainless steel bolt that fit.
I had to cut off a little over an 1/8th inch to get it flush. Add a lock washer and a little thread lock and the adapter is finally at home.   Now I'm getting impatient waiting on the Ace folding stock to arrive. I really hope it comes in the mail tomorrow. See update below..... |
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Posted: 7/6/2008 12:45:56 PM
Nice guide. I am looking forward to the next stages.
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Posted: 7/8/2008 7:23:15 PM
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I got the Ace stock and folding adapter today.
If you want to buy one then heres a link that will take you directly to this stock kit... http://riflestocks.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=69&products_id=303 Heres how it came.  First off is to bolt the AR type tube adapter to the folding mechanism  Then bolt the folder to the M70 trunion. This was not a perfect fit. One slot had to be reamed just a tiny bit for the bolt to thread in straight...no problem. Yes I said slot, This thing is adjustable vertically.  A pict of it folded. The AR type tube adapter is also adjustable vertically.  The AR type tube is threaded in and is firmly held by a lockdown ring and a small setscrew.  The cheek weld on this this is so much more comfortable than the old wood stock. Its adjustable so its perfect for my personal sight picture.  The stock can be folded either way by flipping the mount. To the left allows easy firing while folded.  Looking better already.  Now I cant wait to replace that ugly pistol grip with an ergo type and the Ultimak upper and lower rails were ordered yesterday. See udate and completion below...... |
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Posted: 7/8/2008 8:09:30 PM
I suppose one could put a triangle Krink stock on there too using the same mount??
Hhhmmm.... |
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Posted: 7/8/2008 8:18:07 PM
I dont know about the Krink stock but the same company (ACE) makes these...  |
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Posted: 7/15/2008 3:25:18 PM
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Here it is..Its done!
I have also installed a CAA grip and a Phantom type flash suppressor. The Ultimak system is great. It came with detailed instructions complete with lots of pictures. Heres a link to buy them... http://www.ultimak.com/BuyAK.htm  The weapon is completely stripped and ready for the rails.  The gas tube/rail is installed just like the original but with two barrel clamps to insure accuracy when using an optic.  The lower handguard/rail uses a clever tension setscrew and lever to seat tightly against the front trunion. Up front it uses two barrel clamps and this thing sets very snug, no movement at all.   The grenade sight must be trimmed down in order to use a larger optic.      I couldnt be happier. The Eotech will be replaced with something lighter. I'm taking the Eotech to Iraq with me to use on my M4. |
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Posted: 7/15/2008 6:35:44 PM
It looks like an AMD-65. Yuck.
I'm glad you like it. Thats whats great about these things...to each his own. You used all first class parts. Functionality is the name of the game. B |
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Posted: 7/16/2008 2:05:45 PM
I really dont see a similarity between the two. But then again some people cant tell the difference between a new VW bug and the old ones. AMD-65  My M70B1 They both have some sort of folder and vertical forgrip but thats about it. |
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Posted: 7/16/2008 2:27:24 PM
Looks good. Will your Eotech co-witness on the Ultimak?
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Posted: 7/16/2008 3:30:42 PM
Is that one of those evil black rifles? Where's the thing on nthe gun that goes up?
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Posted: 7/16/2008 3:47:11 PM
Nope. You can barely see the tip of the front sight through it. |
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Posted: 7/16/2008 4:59:58 PM
How did you get the front handguards off, i am trying to add a new set but have never taken handguards off an AK before? |
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Posted: 7/16/2008 5:22:21 PM
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Heres step by step instructions complete with pictures. http://www.ultimak.com/AKStockR&R.htm |
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Posted: 7/16/2008 7:54:48 PM
What was your total cost? Only thing I don't like is the muzzle device. I would have put a J-Tac on it.
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Posted: 7/16/2008 8:29:11 PM
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Originally Posted By beemerman:
What was your total cost? Only thing I don't like is the muzzle device. I would have put a J-Tac on it. $1100 total. Alot cheaper than my last AR build.I have $500 in the new M70, $360 in the rails, $150 in the stock, $50 for the adapter, $20 for the grip and $25 for the Phantom. The Eotech doesnt count because I didnt ever intend on it being on there and its not staying there. And to be honest , I'm not happy with how the muzzle looks either. Any suggestions and links to find a better one would be appreciated. |
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Posted: 7/17/2008 4:50:54 PM
What length rail is that?
It appears to be a compact but the Yugo AK might be slightly different with regards to proportion. |
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Posted: 7/17/2008 4:51:40 PM
Would you like to sell your wood furniture minus the stock?
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Posted: 7/17/2008 5:40:00 PM
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Originally Posted By CK1:
What length rail is that? It appears to be a compact but the Yugo AK might be slightly different with regards to proportion. Top is 7 1/2" and the lower is 8 5/8". I know that the lower is the same one that fits a milled receiver. |
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Posted: 7/23/2008 5:59:12 AM
if you want to put a shorter holo sight on there you shouldn't have to trim the grenade block do you? something like a burris fastfire is what I am talking about, very small. RG
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