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cartoonguy2002
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Posted: 1/5/2006 4:40:18 AM
those L- shaped mags suck ass. unless it was built to take an AK mag, screw it. just put a shorty scope on it to pop in stripper clips. You're not really going to take that thing into combat anyway.
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Posted: 1/5/2006 6:46:13 PM
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I dont plan to change the magizine to a detachable one ive hered alot of complaints about them and also there not that easy to get in Cali. I just bought that stock becuse you can ajust the length of the gun.


Will i still get in trouble if i just put that stock on i really dont feel like gettin arrested and go to prizion plus loose my gun.

Thanks
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Posted: 1/28/2006 6:52:27 PM

Originally Posted By straykiller:
Will i still get in trouble if i just put that stock on i really dont feel like gettin arrested and go to prizion plus loose my gun.

Thanks



You dont need to Loose the gun.

Thay are made loose on purpose.

One that is too tight wont function 100%
It's LOSE L-O-S-E Not LOOSE for crying out loud!

looser? looser than what? a nut, a bolt, a 3 dollar whore? my mom?(dont worry, she's a bitch)...........TheRedHorseman
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Posted: 1/28/2006 7:04:43 PM

Originally Posted By straykiller:
Will i still get in trouble if i just put that stock on i really dont feel like gettin arrested and go to prizion plus loose my gun.

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The stock should not be a problem, as long as you continue to use the fixed 10 round magazine. If your gun is not capable of accecpting a detachable box magazine then you are not effected.
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Posted: 1/31/2006 5:22:12 PM
So this would not fix the count or would?

www.tapco.com/product_information.asp?number=ZSTK66166B&back=yes

Of course this would put it over the 250 mark so I guess it would be best to get an AK if your not after a good SKS
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Posted: 2/12/2006 12:09:21 AM

Originally Posted By straykiller:
I dont plan to change the magizine to a detachable one ive hered alot of complaints about them and also there not that easy to get in Cali. I just bought that stock becuse you can ajust the length of the gun.


Will i still get in trouble if i just put that stock on i really dont feel like gettin arrested and go to prizion plus loose my gun.

Thanks

Even God can't be sure what's legal in the People's Republic of Kalifornica. Get out of that hell hole before the bubble bursts and the looneys run amok!
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Posted: 3/17/2006 6:56:25 PM
Fister -- good reference to the TAPCO company !

To try to limit the amount of mis information being put out by some............ I thought this might help.
When someone comments on the law or legal matters it would help, if they supplied the written material to back up their claims.........

So I will attempt to do this concerning the question " Can the Yugo SKS Mdl 59/66 be converted to a USA built firearm as determined by the rules of US code 922r" This would allow you to use folding stocks and some other goodies.

Be advised if you change "anything" on this rifle you run the risk of loosing the C&R rating this rifle is imported under. Once it looses the C&R rating............many of the parts of this rifle become illegal instantly.

TAPCO maintains that if you buy their Tactical Package......... it supplies the weapon with enough USA parts to satisfy or make 922r no longer applicable. Pay attention to the USA Magazine --- it is a 5 ROUND Mag. for a reason, since BATF apparently won't allow high capacity mags that are "Detachable"
There is a reason a company makes a 5 round mag [ besides for hunting ]

So lets us see.........

First the list of the "Evil Parts".......... under 922r

(1) Frames, receivers, receiver castings, forgings or stampings
(2) Barrels
(3) Barrel extensions
(4) Mounting blocks (trunions)
(5) Muzzle attachments
(6) Bolts
(7) Bolt carriers
(8) Operating rods
(9) Gas pistons
(10) Trigger housings
(11) Triggers
(12) Hammers
(13) Sears
(14) Disconnectors
(15) Butt stocks
(16) Pistol grips
(17) Forearms, hand guards
(18) Magazine bodies
(19) Magazine Followers
(20) Magazine Floor plates

Now lets us subtract the parts that the Tactical package replaces:

(8) Operating rods
(9) Gas pistons
(15) Butt stocks
(16) Pistol grips
(17) Forearms, hand guards
(18) Magazine bodies
(19) Magazine Followers
(20) Magazine Floor plates

To my knowledge the SKS 59/66 doesn't have the following parts:

(3) Barrel extensions
(4) Mounting blocks (trunions)

Now let us add up what parts are left on this gun that are foreign & part of the Evil parts list:

(1) Frames, receivers, receiver castings, forgings or stampings
(2) Barrels

(5) Muzzle attachments
(6) Bolts
(7) Bolt carriers

(10) Trigger housings
(11) Triggers
(12) Hammers
(13) Sears
(14) Disconnectors

That adds up to 10 parts................. the only question I would have is.......... the disconnectors in the trigger group. Does this count as one or someone said the SKS has TWO disconnectors ???? Actually the rifle has a "disconnector" and a "rebound" disconnector........... so I am not sure how the 922r treats these two seperate parts ?? TAPCO apparently believes their Tactical package is "legal"

Would anyone care to comment on anything above OR fill in anything I have left out ??

JF.



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Posted: 3/18/2006 10:46:08 AM
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Just discovered that TAPCO sells a USA made muzzle brake for the SKS to replace the grenade lancher..........so iregardless of the disconnector issue I pointed out above............you can bring your SKS up to a total of 9 compliant parts.

That could bring the number of foreign parts to "10 or less" to satisfy US code 922r.

Does the mounting of the Bayonet count as a "mounting Block (trunion )" if so that will add one more part to the evil part list..........using the above USA muzzle brake will counter this addition.......but still is that issue than with the disconnectors ????


JF.
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Posted: 3/18/2006 9:30:51 PM

Originally Posted By Fister:
So this would not fix the count or would?

www.tapco.com/product_information.asp?number=ZSTK66166B&back=yes

Of course this would put it over the 250 mark so I guess it would be best to get an AK if your not after a good SKS



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Posted: 7/3/2006 6:30:24 AM
After reading this thread, I guess my question would be, why try to make an SKS into an AK when AK's are relatively cheap and plentiful?
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Posted: 7/4/2006 3:56:11 PM

Originally Posted By shootisttx:
After reading this thread, I guess my question would be, why try to make an SKS into an AK when AK's are relatively cheap and plentiful?


I am happy with my Yugo (SKS not the car) the way it came from AIM Surplus. I don't intend to modify it because it will lose it's collector value.

I saw a 30 round magazine made by ProMag which I tried in my Russian SKS but with variations in SKS rifles it needed tweaking so I returned the magazine and replaced the factory 10 rounder which I can load with stripper clips as fast as a magazine change. It's the only time that I didn't like a ProMag magazine.

What about 30 round fixed magazines for the SKS are those illegal too?
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Posted: 7/25/2006 8:17:18 AM
I have one of the Pro-Mag SKS mags and love it, it is the only one that functions 100% of the time. Try some PBlaster dry lubricant inside those mags and it might help (not the liquid lube, just the dry lube.), also I have noticed that some of the steel detachable mags have short springs in them. Try not to flog me guys this is just my personal experience.
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Posted: 11/6/2006 4:58:22 PM

Originally Posted By sniper350:
Just discovered that TAPCO sells a USA made muzzle brake for the SKS to replace the grenade lancher..........so iregardless of the disconnector issue I pointed out above............you can bring your SKS up to a total of 9 compliant parts.

That could bring the number of foreign parts to "10 or less" to satisfy US code 922r.

Does the mounting of the Bayonet count as a "mounting Block (trunion )" if so that will add one more part to the evil part list..........using the above USA muzzle brake will counter this addition.......but still is that issue than with the disconnectors ????


JF.
Try a look at these. This guy has some great brakes.

brakes.ricksmuzzlebrakesandgunstuff.com/index.htm
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Posted: 1/28/2007 7:43:18 PM
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please clarify this for my dumb ass.i have a yugo,if i altered the brake,moved the front sight back,mounted a folding stock,and the dreaded mag.have would that be a violation of the law?if so please advise ,i was under the impression that the ban was off?
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Posted: 4/15/2007 5:23:10 PM

Originally Posted By pdog1517:
please clarify this for my dumb ass.i have a yugo,if i altered the brake,moved the front sight back,mounted a folding stock,and the dreaded mag.have would that be a violation of the law?if so please advise ,i was under the impression that the ban was off?


The Yugo SKS was imported as a C&R firearm. If you were to modify it, those modifications would make it a non C&R firearm. It would therefore either have to me modified into an importable configuration, or have sufficient US parts count to qualify as an American made firearm.

This is about import rules and legalities, not the AWB.
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Posted: 5/21/2007 8:52:48 PM
just feel the need to say i have never had a missfeed with my duckbill mag after 700 plus rounds.
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Posted: 12/10/2007 11:10:43 PM
Buying a cheap AK or building your own from a kit is a better way to go but I think some of us AK owners got the bug by getting a cheap SKS first and modifying it. I say modify it legally (enough US parts) and if you still have the bug get an AK. Keep your original SKS parts (or only hacksaw replacement ones) so you can fully put it back original. I have seen posts mentioning that you cannot put it back to truely be C&R again once it's modified but who can say a gun has never been fully taken apart for cleaning/fixing in the first place?
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Posted: 1/11/2008 2:37:49 PM
D.C. Engineering mags (Early version 15 or 20 Rounders) !
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Originally Posted By Donkeyhaute:
D.C. Engineering mags (Early version 15 or 20 Rounders) !
Were they any good?
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Posted: 4/10/2008 10:13:30 AM
Hey fellas, new to the boards and a proud owner of a Yugo. My question is:

I bought it 3 months ago and it came with a detachable mag, so is it illegal? I don't know how it is because I have called around to gun stores and they all sell SKS detachable mags and a particular gun store salesman said he has one.

Another question is about the 922R thing. If mine is illegal, are you guys saying the way to make it legal is to buy 10 US made parts for my yugo?

Thanks for the help fellas, I am scared to take this baby out now heh.
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Posted: 4/15/2008 3:32:25 PM
The simplest and best way to "make it legal" would be to find a factory standard 10 rd mag and put it on. Then, no worries and no money blown on Crapco Craptical accessories. Spend the money on ammo.
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Posted: 10/5/2008 6:53:17 AM

Originally Posted By Will:
The simplest and best way to "make it legal" would be to find a factory standard 10 rd mag and put it on. Then, no worries and no money blown on Crapco Craptical accessories. Spend the money on ammo.


I agree with the; "find a factory standard 10 rd mag and put it on." But, refering to Tapco products as "Crapco Craptical accessories" is a little too Junior High. Tapco makes good stuff. Just not everyone has the same taste.
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Posted: 10/11/2008 2:42:59 PM

Originally Posted By Mouseomatic:
For anyone with an SKS with a folding stock and a detachable mag from before the ban you must have proof you bought the rifle, the stock and the mags and had it assembled that way before the 94 ban went into effect to be grandfathered. Do you have all the receipts dated before 9/94? and a picture of you holding the assembled rifle with a newpaper showing the date before the 94 ban?Or maybe you know a notary who could stamp something saying it was assembled that way before 9/94. I think that would be the only way around the 922r ban. And I still haven't gotten a definite conformation on that from the BATF, there might not be a grandfather clause for it at all. Just be smart, buy and install the US parts like I did.


They have to prove you broke the law not the other way around. Innocent until proven guilty.
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Why doesn't someone just build a decent fixed 20 rounder?
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