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Posted: 8/3/2016 3:23:24 PM EDT
I have never owned an SKS and was wondering what good maker is and where I can find one.

Thanks!!
Link Posted: 8/3/2016 3:43:20 PM EDT
[#1]
I forget exactly what the quality hierarchy is, but it's something like this:

Russian
Chinese
Other European
Yugo

The russian ones are usually the "best" but are expensive and sometimes hard to find.

The Chinese ones were made after the Soviets sent all their machines, extra parts, and technical advisers to china as a show of communist friendship.  Result was pretty high quality rifles with the only issue being the stocks.  The chinese wood was a lot softer and more prone to dents and scratches than the nice laquered russian ones.  Also, the Chinese sent a lot of their rifles to Albania and other places where they were abused pretty bad.  Part of the reason why theyre all in such rough shape.

Other Europeans made SKSs out the whazoo with varying tolerances and varying quality.  Parts are not interchangeable.  Yugo ones are really common (distinguished by the grenade launcher muzzle) but towards the bottom.



I personally reccomend a chinese one because the guts are usually made better and refinishing the stock can be a fun project.  Additionally, they usually have the blade bayonet vs the spike and they have a lot more manufacturers' stamps that add to the character.
Link Posted: 8/3/2016 5:25:31 PM EDT
[#2]
Norinco with a threaded receiver.

Stay away from Yugo's.

Russian's are probably the nicest for fit, finish, and stock. But you'll pay.

There are also Chinese "M" models that use detachable AK magazines.

ETA: This is the "M" model...

Link Posted: 8/3/2016 5:52:58 PM EDT
[#3]
Okay, thanks for the info, guys.
Link Posted: 8/3/2016 7:14:09 PM EDT
[#4]
My buddy has a cherry Russian SKS he bought in 2000 for $200. Lucky bastard. How much are those worth now??
Link Posted: 8/3/2016 11:30:44 PM EDT
[#5]
Chi-Com is your best bet as far as "reasonable" price and the quality you get for a shooter. All are secondary market. Most common examples I see local are $350.00 - $425.00.

The Russian, Romanian, Albanian, Yugo M-59s, and even certain Chi-Coms are commanding collector prices now.

Yugo 59/66s are available from the distributors but they are way to heavy for what they do unless you plan on launching grenades, the grenade launching valve cut-off is a weak spot, and the barrels are not chrome-lined. I never liked them when they were $100.00.....Much less at $400.00 +.

Link Posted: 8/4/2016 12:53:48 AM EDT
[#6]
So, how much are we talking for a nice Russian SKS?
Link Posted: 8/4/2016 1:45:01 AM EDT
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Lots.

Especially in great condition with matching numbers.

$1,200.00 - $1,500.00?
Link Posted: 8/4/2016 2:17:26 AM EDT
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Lots.

Especially in great condition with matching numbers.

$1,200.00 - $1,500.00?
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Lots.

Especially in great condition with matching numbers.

$1,200.00 - $1,500.00?


Holy shit! I think my buddy's Russian SKS has matching numbers and, in my opinon, is in pretty good shape. He bought that damn thing for only $200.
Link Posted: 8/4/2016 2:22:56 AM EDT
[#9]
What do you guys think about this one:

Norinco SKS
Link Posted: 8/4/2016 2:53:04 AM EDT
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That looks like a nice rifle.

The seller gives little information and the stock looks refinished and it has no bayonet.

Back in the 90's when they were banned from importation by the Lesbian Liar's Husband, the period correct bayonets (pig stickers) were removed and were sold as "tent stakes."

Instead of cutting off the bayonet lug distributors drilled the mounting hole on the bayonet lug clean. Basically they reamed the holes so a bayonet couldn't be mounted.

PM the seller and ask him those questions.

Also, ask him if he still has the cleaning kit and oil bottle and if the rifle has matching numbers.

Hope this helps.



Link Posted: 8/4/2016 3:06:47 AM EDT
[#11]
Thanks!
Link Posted: 8/4/2016 3:55:09 AM EDT
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Anytime.

Link Posted: 8/4/2016 6:24:23 AM EDT
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Lots.

Especially in great condition with matching numbers.

$1,200.00 - $1,500.00?
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Lots.

Especially in great condition with matching numbers.

$1,200.00 - $1,500.00?


SERIOUSLY? Holy cow I have one sitting in my safe, bought it off some military guy on FB that was moving overseas for $300 not even 2 years ago
Link Posted: 8/4/2016 8:14:47 AM EDT
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SERIOUSLY? Holy cow I have one sitting in my safe, bought it off some military guy on FB that was moving overseas for $300 not even 2 years ago
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So, how much are we talking for a nice Russian SKS?


Lots.

Especially in great condition with matching numbers.

$1,200.00 - $1,500.00?


SERIOUSLY? Holy cow I have one sitting in my safe, bought it off some military guy on FB that was moving overseas for $300 not even 2 years ago



Yea, the SKS market is intensifying at a crazy pace.  One of the last inexpensive battle rifles
Link Posted: 8/4/2016 10:37:57 AM EDT
[#15]
Russian
Romanian
Yugo - M59 only
Chinese
Albanian
Albanian/ Chinese


I agree with above poster that the Chinese SKS's have seemed to slip a little in price recently while the others have gone up.
Link Posted: 8/4/2016 11:16:04 AM EDT
[#16]
Russian and Chinese SKS are both good choices, and bringing $350-$600 around here.
Link Posted: 8/4/2016 1:09:08 PM EDT
[#17]
Maybe I need to call around to some shops in your area?
Link Posted: 8/4/2016 1:21:53 PM EDT
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Holy shit! I think my buddy's Russian SKS has matching numbers and, in my opinon, is in pretty good shape. He bought that damn thing for only $200.
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Lots.

Especially in great condition with matching numbers.

$1,200.00 - $1,500.00?


Holy shit! I think my buddy's Russian SKS has matching numbers and, in my opinon, is in pretty good shape. He bought that damn thing for only $200.



a russian REFURB is worth about half of that on a good day. You can find refurbs even on gunbroker for about 450-600
Link Posted: 8/4/2016 2:10:19 PM EDT
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I bought mine for $189.  I traded it a few years ago for a golf cart.  They are worth a golf cart.
Link Posted: 8/4/2016 3:05:56 PM EDT
[#20]
Lmao!
Link Posted: 8/4/2016 3:53:29 PM EDT
[#21]
I prefer to shoot my SKS rifles, so I go Chinese.

They run like a top. Never any problems with them.

Link Posted: 8/10/2016 9:50:06 AM EDT
[#22]
I had and sold a Norinco
I have and still own a really cool looking Sino-Soviet Chinese
Link Posted: 8/10/2016 7:50:10 PM EDT
[#23]
Yugos are fine.



No chrome lined barrel.  




Not a problem with modern steel case non corrosive 7.62x39




buy based on condition and price, not country of origin.




SKS are fun, I own 3, but "tiers" of this gun is fantasy mumbo jumbo.




Price and condition.  Period.
Link Posted: 8/30/2016 11:14:13 AM EDT
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Yugos are fine.

No chrome lined barrel.  


Not a problem with modern steel case non corrosive 7.62x39


buy based on condition and price, not country of origin.


SKS are fun, I own 3, but "tiers" of this gun is fantasy mumbo jumbo.


Price and condition.  Period.
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Personally, I consdier the Yugos to be some of the BEST of the breed. I shot a case of surplus M67 ammo with no damage to the barrel. I just made sure I cleaned with warm water after every range trip. The Yugos are built solid from mostly milled parts. The 59/66 is a little front heavy with the Granade Launcher but that can be removed. Mine shoot GREAT as is.

Not sure why people say "stay away".
Link Posted: 9/1/2016 9:30:10 PM EDT
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Personally, I consdier the Yugos to be some of the BEST of the breed. I shot a case of surplus M67 ammo with no damage to the barrel. I just made sure I cleaned with warm water after every range trip. The Yugos are built solid from mostly milled parts. The 59/66 is a little front heavy with the Granade Launcher but that can be removed. Mine shoot GREAT as is.

Not sure why people say "stay away".
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Yugos are fine.

No chrome lined barrel.  


Not a problem with modern steel case non corrosive 7.62x39


buy based on condition and price, not country of origin.


SKS are fun, I own 3, but "tiers" of this gun is fantasy mumbo jumbo.


Price and condition.  Period.



Personally, I consdier the Yugos to be some of the BEST of the breed. I shot a case of surplus M67 ammo with no damage to the barrel. I just made sure I cleaned with warm water after every range trip. The Yugos are built solid from mostly milled parts. The 59/66 is a little front heavy with the Granade Launcher but that can be removed. Mine shoot GREAT as is.

Not sure why people say "stay away".


I mentioned to "stay away" because Big-5 sporting Goods in Las Vegas, was selling Yugo's for $199.00 and they had a lot of flaws.

Front sight hoods were mounted crooked, rear sights were more to one side than the other, no matching numbers, and there were a couple of more things that I can't remember at the moment.

That was then and now is now. I've seen people selling Yugo's for premium prices of late.

I was going from personal experience from my students and friends. That's why I mentioned to stay away.

After reading some comments in this thread it looks like there are good Yugo's out there.




Link Posted: 9/2/2016 11:09:50 PM EDT
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you can still find occasional bargains out there.  back in May I bought a nice 1954 Tula, all matching except for the force matched stock, with a sling and cleaning kit in the stock for $450.  

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Link Posted: 9/2/2016 11:26:59 PM EDT
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all my norincos have shot very very well

no experience with other countries.
Link Posted: 9/3/2016 12:25:48 AM EDT
[#28]
Only owned, shot unbranded CHICOMs, Norc-branded, and Keng's PolyTech branded SKS's. All were fine. The pointability of these guns are excellent.

A gigigillion CHICOM SKSs came in the USA in the early 80's, and sold for like $50.00 and up, often with a bandolier or even entire crate of CHICOM steel-core ammo tossed in with the deal.

I found two unfired CHICOMs, still swathed in CHICOM-chapstick, at a pawnshops about 4 years ago for under $200.00 each. They are out there and usually in much nicer physical condition than the Yugo or Romy SKS that I have seen.

Beware the really old, beat CHICOM or Russian SKS, as the earliest cheap 7.62x39 was corrosive, and with SKS being dirt cheap back in the day, they were treated as the Dodge Omni of the gun world and so likely were not well taken care of..
Link Posted: 9/13/2016 7:59:56 PM EDT
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Lots.



Especially in great condition with matching numbers.



$1,200.00 - $1,500.00?
Lmao, you need to have a talk with your FFL bro.

 
Link Posted: 9/13/2016 9:04:32 PM EDT
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Lots.

Especially in great condition with matching numbers.

$1,200.00 - $1,500.00?
Lmao, you need to have a talk with your FFL bro.  


LMAO. Me?

I never paid more than $80.00 for an SKS or $65.00 for 1,300 rounds of Norinco steel core in tuna cans.

You need to have a talk with the guy who will pay $1,500.00 for an SKS, Bro.

Link Posted: 9/14/2016 3:33:07 PM EDT
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I must be a chump.  I have  $400 and change Yugo and love it.
Link Posted: 9/14/2016 6:01:05 PM EDT
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Dans ammo, $369 for a yugo M59.



Not a bad deal.
Link Posted: 9/14/2016 8:13:59 PM EDT
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Bought a yugo from classic firearms; we actually boi
bought a crate of them at work. $420 shipped.  Looked to be in mint condition, barely or if ever fired.
Link Posted: 9/15/2016 4:20:16 PM EDT
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That's the one I purchased.
Link Posted: 9/15/2016 4:52:16 PM EDT
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Was unaware the Yugo was no good, I just picked one up in a trade, it is heavy particularly at the front, I have not fired it yet but if it shoots anything like my norinco I'll be happy!
Link Posted: 9/15/2016 4:57:35 PM EDT
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Yugo's are good , though there are some issues with the gas cut off on the 59/66 model rusting and causing some issues. The paperclip trick does work if you have this going on.

I just never cared for the extra weight of the grenade launching model.


Link Posted: 9/29/2016 4:48:18 PM EDT
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I got a Chinese example on a lucky buy from a co-worker for 200.  Its really nice.  I wanted it to fill a hole in my soviet era collection, I would have preferred a Russian but not at the prices they're going for
Link Posted: 9/30/2016 7:45:36 PM EDT
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Picked up a late model chinese factory 26 (24 million) at the last NDA. All matching
and I dare say unissued. Had the bakelite hand guard, spike bayonet, and short skirt barrel.

It was a fair price at 4 bills.

I REALLY want a sino soviet SKS like my very first one that I had
back in the day. Like an idiot, I sold it.
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