 popsickles 
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Posted: 6/18/2012 5:08:18 PM
THE IMAGE ABOVE IS A PAID ADVERTISEMENT Question is, are there any reliability mods I can do to this thing? It stovepipes and sticks constantly, and yesterday is set a round back in the case when it jammed, glad I checked it before firing again. Should I just hang this thing on a wall or what? 
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Posted: 6/18/2012 6:19:51 PM
[Last Edit: 6/18/2012 6:22:59 PM by yagermeister]
check/clean the gas bock some times they get blocked up with cosmoline or rust
as far as stuff hitting your face ,is the top cover fitting well ?gaps ? how long have you had the rifle ? can you excange it for a different one? |
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Posted: 6/18/2012 6:45:35 PM
What does the ejected brass look like? My Yugo ejected brass pretty cleanly and didn't leave any weird dings or marks. Never had crap blown in my face either?!?!
Any metal shavings collecting in the receiver? What ammo are you using? Do all the #'s match as far as the receiver, carrier and bolt go? |
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Posted: 6/18/2012 6:56:35 PM
Yugo ammo was all corosive so lots of these had bad gas systems..
Someone was making a couple of replacment parts for it. Mine was super reliable.. only seen a couple that would not run. What condition is your gas block and valve? |
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Posted: 6/18/2012 8:48:56 PM
[Last Edit: 6/18/2012 8:49:38 PM by LUVONEGOD]
Mine works nicely, will be even better when I finish the trigger job this weekend. Just need a little more polishing on the sear and change the trigger spring (new sear spring already in). If cleaning your rifle "Thoroughly" doesn't get it right, take ti to a gun smith so he can check the timing on it. You really don't want anything blowing up in your face, it can ruin your whole life! Tapco makes a new gas tube and piston. Just make sure you get the tube specifically for the Yugo as they make another one for the Rusky/Chinese/Bulgarian/and Romulan versions (just kidding on the Romulan)....
Yugo SKS gas tube w/handguard SKS Gas Piston |
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Posted: 6/19/2012 9:14:39 AM
[Last Edit: 6/19/2012 9:20:04 AM by popsickles]
Ive cleaned all the cosmoline out of it, the gas tube seems tight, and everything cycles right by hand.
It has sentimental value to me so I wont get rid of it but surely I can make it work better... what about one of those stainless oversized gas valves, anyone have luck with those? What about polishing the chamber? oh and the brass (steel) looks fine, when it ejects they all fall in the same spot and there are no dents or gouges. ETA the top cover does have gaps, this rifle looks like it was pieced together in a hurry...but someone sure is good with a carving knife... |
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Posted: 6/22/2012 3:40:20 PM
In the meantime while you are trying to get it fixed, turn the gas control valve and use it like a single shot bolt rifle.
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Posted: 6/23/2012 10:44:58 AM
I would like to see pictures of the rifle.
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Posted: 6/23/2012 4:52:30 PM
[Last Edit: 6/23/2012 4:53:38 PM by BP03]
I had the same problem and got a new stainless steel gas valve..........Fixxed it right away. Also sometimes lacquered ammo will stick to a dirty chamber if it's hot, i try to take good care when cleaning it and haven't had any problems
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bloodsport2885
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Posted: 6/23/2012 7:28:11 PM
[Last Edit: 6/23/2012 7:30:21 PM by bloodsport2885]
Replace the gas valve with one from Murray's Guns. 99% of jamming Yugos are due to that little part.
All your problems (failure to extract/eject, failures to feed) sound like short stroking due to gas starvation. |
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Posted: 7/14/2012 12:17:14 AM
I will look into the gas valve. Thanks guys.
I will post a picture too sometime this weekend I guess. It aint a looker though, you can tell its old as dirt. Maybe someone could tell me where the stock carvings came from or what they mean... |
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Posted: 7/29/2012 9:24:10 AM
I had an SKS that would stovepipe a lot. I changed the magazine with one from one of my other SKS's and it worked fine. Looking at the original magazine I traced the problem to the feed lips. They were bent slightly down. With the magazine in place, look at the feed lips. There is a projection on the receiver that as an upward angle to it. The feed lips of the magazine should fit right up to it. If the front of he lips are bent down, it will cause stovepipes.
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Posted: 8/2/2012 8:19:27 PM
Originally Posted By gaweidert:
I had an SKS that would stovepipe a lot. I changed the magazine with one from one of my other SKS's and it worked fine. Looking at the original magazine I traced the problem to the feed lips. They were bent slightly down. With the magazine in place, look at the feed lips. There is a projection on the receiver that as an upward angle to it. The feed lips of the magazine should fit right up to it. If the front of he lips are bent down, it will cause stovepipes. I got it running, soldered together a peice of wire after sizing it on a ring die or whatever its called. heat treated that and put it in front of the gas valve. Then I polished the chamber with some jewelers polish stuff. The gun cycles so good now I had a chance to see where I was shooting, I noticed the barrel is bent at the end. 4 inches left at 10 yards .
Anyone know if a gunsmith could straighten it? |
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Posted: 8/2/2012 9:14:31 PM
Originally Posted By popsickles: Originally Posted By gaweidert: I had an SKS that would stovepipe a lot. I changed the magazine with one from one of my other SKS's and it worked fine. Looking at the original magazine I traced the problem to the feed lips. They were bent slightly down. With the magazine in place, look at the feed lips. There is a projection on the receiver that as an upward angle to it. The feed lips of the magazine should fit right up to it. If the front of he lips are bent down, it will cause stovepipes. I got it running, soldered together a peice of wire after sizing it on a ring die or whatever its called. heat treated that and put it in front of the gas valve. Then I polished the chamber with some jewelers polish stuff. The gun cycles so good now I had a chance to see where I was shooting, I noticed the barrel is bent at the end. 4 inches left at 10 yards .Anyone know if a gunsmith could straighten it? i just came for the pikshures |
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Posted: 8/3/2012 12:33:44 AM
[Last Edit: 8/3/2012 3:34:15 AM by popsickles]
ETA it does look exited, dont it?
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Posted: 8/3/2012 10:33:43 AM
[Last Edit: 8/3/2012 10:34:39 AM by scarymike23]
Originally Posted By popsickles:
Originally Posted By gaweidert:
I had an SKS that would stovepipe a lot. I changed the magazine with one from one of my other SKS's and it worked fine. Looking at the original magazine I traced the problem to the feed lips. They were bent slightly down. With the magazine in place, look at the feed lips. There is a projection on the receiver that as an upward angle to it. The feed lips of the magazine should fit right up to it. If the front of he lips are bent down, it will cause stovepipes. I got it running, soldered together a peice of wire after sizing it on a ring die or whatever its called. heat treated that and put it in front of the gas valve. Then I polished the chamber with some jewelers polish stuff. The gun cycles so good now I had a chance to see where I was shooting, I noticed the barrel is bent at the end. 4 inches left at 10 yards .
Anyone know if a gunsmith could straighten it? I dunno about straightening - never had to have it done. If it turns out to be impossible or would cost more than the rifle you can always just cut and recrown it. I've seen some nice looking jobs done where the barrel was cut closer to the gas valve and one of Prince50s FSBs was added. Glad you're taking the time to work with your rifle. So long as you're looking for a rugged, classy, historic, and nearly indestructible rifle and not some tacticool plastic plinker a reasonably well maintained SKS will put a smile on your face! Let us know how your work is going. |
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Posted: 8/3/2012 11:05:14 AM
Originally Posted By scarymike23:
Originally Posted By popsickles:
Originally Posted By gaweidert:
I had an SKS that would stovepipe a lot. I changed the magazine with one from one of my other SKS's and it worked fine. Looking at the original magazine I traced the problem to the feed lips. They were bent slightly down. With the magazine in place, look at the feed lips. There is a projection on the receiver that as an upward angle to it. The feed lips of the magazine should fit right up to it. If the front of he lips are bent down, it will cause stovepipes. I got it running, soldered together a peice of wire after sizing it on a ring die or whatever its called. heat treated that and put it in front of the gas valve. Then I polished the chamber with some jewelers polish stuff. The gun cycles so good now I had a chance to see where I was shooting, I noticed the barrel is bent at the end. 4 inches left at 10 yards .
Anyone know if a gunsmith could straighten it? I dunno about straightening - never had to have it done. If it turns out to be impossible or would cost more than the rifle you can always just cut and recrown it. I've seen some nice looking jobs done where the barrel was cut closer to the gas valve and one of Prince50s FSBs was added. Glad you're taking the time to work with your rifle. So long as you're looking for a rugged, classy, historic, and nearly indestructible rifle and not some tacticool plastic plinker a reasonably well maintained SKS will put a smile on your face! Let us know how your work is going. I want to keep it original, but I might cut it if I have to, to get it to shoot straight. Also as you can tell, I am not a huge fan of plastic plinkers. I do have a few but I prefer old school. I just restored a 1956 belgium made browning sa-22, just waiting for a stock bolt, and an old derringer that was originally gold plated and who knows how old it is.
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Posted: 8/23/2012 4:49:05 AM
BTW if anyone is a gunsmith in the houston area that can straighten a barrel, send me a pm.
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Posted: 8/23/2012 6:42:33 AM
[Last Edit: 8/23/2012 6:45:01 AM by nhsport]
I can't believe I am saying this but....
How much do you have into this gun? It sounds like you have had it for a while so I am thinking you don't have much into it. My point is it really isn't worth dumping a ton of money into so my sugestion is to try and straighten it yourself. I am thinking that if it is bent some idiot stuck it in some hole or tight place and used it as a crowbar. Identify the exact place it is bent and try to pry it the other way. Are you actually sure the barrel itself is what is bent and its not a front sight /flash hider that is mashed up? What do you have to loose? Tweak it a bit and then test shoot it I don't believe that Derringer is more than 20 years old |
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Posted: 8/25/2012 11:40:28 PM
[Last Edit: 8/26/2012 2:28:08 PM by popsickles]
Originally Posted By nhsport:
I can't believe I am saying this but.... How much do you have into this gun? It sounds like you have had it for a while so I am thinking you don't have much into it. My point is it really isn't worth dumping a ton of money into so my sugestion is to try and straighten it yourself. I am thinking that if it is bent some idiot stuck it in some hole or tight place and used it as a crowbar. Identify the exact place it is bent and try to pry it the other way. Are you actually sure the barrel itself is what is bent and its not a front sight /flash hider that is mashed up? What do you have to loose? Tweak it a bit and then test shoot it I don't believe that Derringer is more than 20 years old The barrel is bent right at the front sight, and my grandfather gave that derrenger to my mom when she was in her 20s, shes almost sixty now. He had it awhile before he gave it to her. I'll call and ask him when he got it. ETA: American Firearms, San Antonio, and he gave it to my mom in 1977. So its definatly more than 20 years old.  |
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