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 Schroedum
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Posted: 2/29/2012 2:24:50 PM
THE IMAGE ABOVE IS A PAID ADVERTISEMENT Imagine this weapon All new American made parts Aluminum reciever High quality 16"-18"-21" chrome lined barrel optional to thread 1-14 for AK muzzle devices Polished steel bolt and carrier Polymer stock with cleaning kit trap door Bayonet Optional, Spiker or Blade And your choice of Caliber 5.45x39 that accepts AK74 mags, 5.56x45 that accepts Galil mags, 7.62x39 that accepts AK47 mags or 7.62x51 that accept M14 Mags. Or a standard SKS configuration of the internal box mag BUT it would still be for the different calibers listed above. Just think of zipping a stripper clip of 5.56 into your brand new light weight American made SKS! How much would you pay? $450-$500....More? What would you do differently if you could build a new SKS from the ground up? Would it even be worth it to buy a new one? |
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Posted: 2/29/2012 2:28:14 PM
Nope
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Posted: 2/29/2012 2:35:57 PM
The reciever is a stressed part, should be steel.
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Posted: 2/29/2012 2:36:44 PM
There is no way you could build an American made SKS at a competitive price point.
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Schroedum
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Posted: 2/29/2012 2:39:51 PM
Originally Posted By 230JHP:
The reciever is a stressed part, should be steel. Actually the hardened steel pin driven into the reciever is the stress point, I could make that work. Originally Posted By Dace:
There is no way you could build an American made SKS at a competitive price point. What would be the price point I would have to build it for in your eyes to be competitive? |
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Posted: 2/29/2012 8:16:03 PM
If you could build one in 7.62x39, 5.56, 5.45, or even in .22lr in stainless steel with laminate wood stock, and detachable mags for under $500 I would buy a few.
The changes that need made are a better optics mounting platform, something like a solid dustcover/receiver combo with a rail on top. A simpler fire control group would be nice to, it should work with slighlty modded AR or AK group. |
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Posted: 2/29/2012 9:14:40 PM
No fucking way. Tula all the way.
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Posted: 2/29/2012 9:50:59 PM
Sorry but no history, no soul, not for me.
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mks99
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Posted: 2/29/2012 10:06:08 PM
The only advantage of surplus is the price. You can't get there.
Anything in the $500 range would move me right to an AR in that caliber. |
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Posted: 3/1/2012 8:44:05 AM
I voted for $450... either in 5.56 or 7.62x51 (favoring the latter, since I have an AR already). Standard magazine, being I live in New Jersey.
However, I doubt it could be done in that price range. |
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haLfLiFe
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Posted: 3/1/2012 10:46:18 AM
Originally Posted By AFSOC_COP:
Sorry but no history, no soul, not for me. +1 |
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myitinaw
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Posted: 3/1/2012 11:19:27 AM
No thanks. |
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Posted: 3/1/2012 11:43:14 AM
Originally Posted By Schroedum:
Actually the hardened steel pin driven into the reciever is the stress point, I could make that work. You might want to understand the design better before you attempt to manufacture it. The bolt locks against the shoulder in the receiver. The barrel is secured to the receiver. When the cartridge is fired the pressure tries to drive the bolt to the rear AND tries to drive the barrel forward. If what you have between those two points is a piece of aluminum, the best you can hope for is that it will stretch. Over time that stretching will result in excessive headspace. If you are not aware of what excessive headspace can cause, I suggest you do some research. The worse case scenario is that the aluminum fails catastrophically. |
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FightingHellfish
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Posted: 3/1/2012 12:30:37 PM
Aluminum FAL receivers didn't workout so good.
A US made premium SKS is a niche item. I bet you couldn't bring it to market from a small start-up maker for less than $1800. Don't let that discourage you from offering $500 pre-orders though, its the gun maker way. |
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Posted: 3/1/2012 12:30:50 PM
I'd buy it, but not aluminum, and not with a plastic stock.
SKS is a fine platform, i'd like to see what can be done with it. |
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Posted: 3/1/2012 10:42:37 PM
Try making an AK if possible.
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Posted: 3/2/2012 2:34:51 AM
Originally Posted By DieselNut:
Try making an AK if possible. Try making an AK with Al at the trunnions and the frame. A barrel extension made of steel would be required to allow the bolt to lock to it instead of the trunnion. |
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Posted: 3/2/2012 3:39:38 AM
You would be better off trying to make a sized down M14. One sized to shoot 6.8spc/6.5Grendel, with offerings in 5.56, 7.62x39, and 5.45x39.
It would be in between the full size gun and the Mini 14, but actually use the M-14 bolt style, receiver etc. No need to make it large enough for the .308, since that exists. That would be perfect for all those people that love the M 14, but hate the weight. Using a modern optic friendly design on the receiver would be great too. |
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Posted: 3/3/2012 1:19:45 AM
Originally Posted By pavlovwolf:
You would be better off trying to make a sized down M14. One sized to shoot 6.8spc/6.5Grendel, with offerings in 5.56, 7.62x39, and 5.45x39. It would be in between the full size gun and the Mini 14, but actually use the M-14 bolt style, receiver etc. No need to make it large enough for the .308, since that exists. That would be perfect for all those people that love the M 14, but hate the weight. Using a modern optic friendly design on the receiver would be great too. Like the Ruger mini-14? |
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Posted: 3/11/2012 3:51:25 AM
$400.
why pay 550-600 when you can get an AK or almost 2 for that price? |
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Posted: 3/11/2012 10:59:50 PM
Originally Posted By 230JHP:
The reciever is a stressed part, should be steel. This. The FAL was attempted with an aluminum receiver. Better off getting set up for stamping it out. |
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TheRealBluedog
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Posted: 3/14/2012 10:47:51 PM
If you really want to make money with a good design that should be much easier to make, try resurrecting the HAC-7. I'll buy one in every caliber.
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Posted: 3/19/2012 2:42:55 PM
I would play up the 5.45 option. I would definitely buy one in 5.45 at a decent price.
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Posted: 3/19/2012 5:06:00 PM
Originally Posted By TheRealBluedog:
If you really want to make money with a good design that should be much easier to make, try resurrecting the HAC-7. I'll buy one in every caliber. The HAC-7 was an awesome gun that never really caught on. I'm down for a HAC-7!  |
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Posted: 3/20/2012 8:00:04 AM
id be all over it i love the SKS easily one of the best rifle designs ever
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Posted: 3/21/2012 11:07:22 PM
Heck yes....Entirely different rifle yet ammo on clips can be used on two guns. I vote $500ish maybe more.
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