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Posted: 4/1/2012 11:34:03 AM
[Last Edit: 4/1/2012 3:33:48 PM by rgb03]
THE IMAGE ABOVE IS A PAID ADVERTISEMENT I want to buy a kit to send out and have built. it seems that most are being sold with a us made barrel but one place has them with a yugo barrel. which one is the best to use? |
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Posted: 4/1/2012 11:45:06 AM
I personally would go with the original Yugo barrel. From what I understand they are no longer being imported.
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Posted: 4/1/2012 7:03:24 PM
With that however, you have to break out your garlic and crosses, and do a little chant before trying to get the original yugo barrel. To get the yugo barrel you have to deal with blackthorne/ak-parts-kit or whatever the hell he calls himself. From what i've heard from alot of folks on the AKfiles and theakforum.net is you need to be freaking careful dealing with that site and its owners.
Besides, a hammer forged OEM barrel, vs a US made *Chrome Lined* barrel. I'll take the US in a freaking heartbeat, especially since i have a ton of corrosive Yugo surplus x39 ammo |
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Posted: 4/2/2012 10:26:19 PM
Originally Posted By Alderleet:
With that however, you have to break out your garlic and crosses, and do a little chant before trying to get the original yugo barrel. To get the yugo barrel you have to deal with blackthorne/ak-parts-kit or whatever the hell he calls himself. From what i've heard from alot of folks on the AKfiles and theakforum.net is you need to be freaking careful dealing with that site and its owners. Besides, a hammer forged OEM barrel, vs a US made *Chrome Lined* barrel. I'll take the US in a freaking heartbeat, especially since i have a ton of corrosive Yugo surplus x39 ammo I respectfully DISAGREE. I bought my kit there and got it in less than a week. No fuss, no trouble, no mess. Hammer forged MILITARY GRADE barrels are WAY better than any chrome-lined US made barrels. If you are planning to shoot corrosive ammo, just make sure you have a bore brush and some windex and WD-40 when you go out shooting. Run the brush through a couple of times and douse with some nice H2O followed by a dry patch, then some WD-40 to remove the excess water. |
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Posted: 4/2/2012 10:47:40 PM
Originally Posted By CGP2:
Originally Posted By Alderleet:
With that however, you have to break out your garlic and crosses, and do a little chant before trying to get the original yugo barrel. To get the yugo barrel you have to deal with blackthorne/ak-parts-kit or whatever the hell he calls himself. From what i've heard from alot of folks on the AKfiles and theakforum.net is you need to be freaking careful dealing with that site and its owners. Besides, a hammer forged OEM barrel, vs a US made *Chrome Lined* barrel. I'll take the US in a freaking heartbeat, especially since i have a ton of corrosive Yugo surplus x39 ammo If you are planning to shoot corrosive ammo, just make sure you have a bore brush and some windex and WD-40 when you go out shooting. Run the brush through a couple of times and douse with some nice H2O followed by a dry patch, then some WD-40 to remove the excess water. Or just some 50/50 ballistol.That is all you need. The H2O dissolves the salts and the ballistol lubricates. Windex is mostly H2O and that is what neutralizes the salt based priming compound. The ammonia does nothing but will react negatively with chromium. WD-40 is notorious for attracting water. It claims otherwise but not the best lube for guns. |
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Posted: 4/2/2012 11:19:57 PM
[Last Edit: 4/2/2012 11:21:31 PM by CGP2]
Originally Posted By ddnc:
Originally Posted By CGP2:
Originally Posted By Alderleet:
With that however, you have to break out your garlic and crosses, and do a little chant before trying to get the original yugo barrel. To get the yugo barrel you have to deal with blackthorne/ak-parts-kit or whatever the hell he calls himself. From what i've heard from alot of folks on the AKfiles and theakforum.net is you need to be freaking careful dealing with that site and its owners. Besides, a hammer forged OEM barrel, vs a US made *Chrome Lined* barrel. I'll take the US in a freaking heartbeat, especially since i have a ton of corrosive Yugo surplus x39 ammo If you are planning to shoot corrosive ammo, just make sure you have a bore brush and some windex and WD-40 when you go out shooting. Run the brush through a couple of times and douse with some nice H2O followed by a dry patch, then some WD-40 to remove the excess water. Or just some 50/50 ballistol.That is all you need. The H2O dissolves the salts and the ballistol lubricates. Windex is mostly H2O and that is what neutralizes the salt based priming compound. The ammonia does nothing but will react negatively with chromium. WD-40 is notorious for attracting water. It claims otherwise but not the best lube for guns. It's correct that good old H2O is responsible for removing corrosive salts. WD-40 is NOT lube. I use it to displace water and moisture from the nooks and crannies. I soak the shit out of the barrel, tube, bolt and carrier with WD-40 (after some H2O based spraydown). It helps block moisture and gives me time to clean my gun. Moisture and humidity WILL cause RUST. Windex is convenient and also helps with copper fouling. Try one using Windex (with Ammonia) and see that blue liquid turn to green. I use this method on a PSL, 2 AKS-74s, 2 Mosin Nagants. All of them look new with zero rust. All of them shoot highly corrosive ammo, LOL. |
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Posted: 4/3/2012 12:02:03 AM
I'm too lazy to do all that.
 So it's hot water followed by Ballistol and a good wipe down. |
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Posted: 4/3/2012 2:19:27 PM
So I am going to go out on a limb and say I did the right thing by ordering the kit with the yugo barrel. I ordered mine last night and got my shipping confirmation shortly after. I will post back when it gets here to let you guys know how I made out. Thanks.
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Posted: 4/3/2012 3:44:54 PM
Does anyone know who makes the barrels that Atlantic is selling and what the ROT might be? I got one for a new 92 build and they look like they are well made and appear to be 4140 chrome-moly.
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AEnemaBay
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Posted: 4/3/2012 10:37:47 PM
Originally Posted By ddnc:
Does anyone know who makes the barrels that Atlantic is selling and what the ROT might be? I got one for a new 92 build and they look like they are well made and appear to be 4140 chrome-moly. I was told Curtis at AK-Builder is the maker of the M92 barrels. |
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Posted: 4/3/2012 10:49:41 PM
Originally Posted By AEnemaBay:
Originally Posted By ddnc:
Does anyone know who makes the barrels that Atlantic is selling and what the ROT might be? I got one for a new 92 build and they look like they are well made and appear to be 4140 chrome-moly. I was told Curtis at AK-Builder is the maker of the M92 barrels. Thanks, Any further info like reputation? well made? etc? I talked with him some time back when he sold me an EG 5.45 barrel. Seemed like a nice, knowledgeable guy. |
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Posted: 4/3/2012 10:51:51 PM
Originally Posted By ddnc:
Originally Posted By AEnemaBay:
Originally Posted By ddnc:
Does anyone know who makes the barrels that Atlantic is selling and what the ROT might be? I got one for a new 92 build and they look like they are well made and appear to be 4140 chrome-moly. I was told Curtis at AK-Builder is the maker of the M92 barrels. Thanks, Any further info like reputation? well made? etc? I talked with him some time back when he sold me an EG 5.45 barrel. Seemed like a nice, knowledgeable guy. Everything Curtis makes gets good reviews. I just built up my M92 barrel and the install went perfectly, and the machining is well executed. Never heard any complaints about his US made barrels. |
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Posted: 4/3/2012 11:11:02 PM
Originally Posted By AEnemaBay:
Originally Posted By ddnc:
Originally Posted By AEnemaBay:
Originally Posted By ddnc:
Does anyone know who makes the barrels that Atlantic is selling and what the ROT might be? I got one for a new 92 build and they look like they are well made and appear to be 4140 chrome-moly. I was told Curtis at AK-Builder is the maker of the M92 barrels. Thanks, Any further info like reputation? well made? etc? I talked with him some time back when he sold me an EG 5.45 barrel. Seemed like a nice, knowledgeable guy. Everything Curtis makes gets good reviews. I just built up my M92 barrel and the install went perfectly, and the machining is well executed. Never heard any complaints about his US made barrels. Is yours a kit from Atlantic? I got one of those with the chrome lined barrel. Do you by any chance know the twist rate? I think it is 4 groove, 1:9 but I am not sure...It looks real good though. |
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Posted: 4/5/2012 8:44:34 AM
Originally Posted By Alderleet: With that however, you have to break out your garlic and crosses, and do a little chant before trying to get the original yugo barrel. To get the yugo barrel you have to deal with blackthorne/ak-parts-kit or whatever the hell he calls himself. From what i've heard from alot of folks on the AKfiles and theakforum.net is you need to be freaking careful dealing with that site and its owners. Besides, a hammer forged OEM barrel, vs a US made *Chrome Lined* barrel. I'll take the US in a freaking heartbeat, especially since i have a ton of corrosive Yugo surplus x39 ammo I ordered my kit on a Friday from Blackthorne and got it on the following Tuesday. The Yugo barrel is much better for numerous reason the least of which the journals aren't turned to small for the trunnions. There are numerous threads on the forums mentioned about their US barrels hand fitting into the trunnion thus requiring the barrel to be knurled which is bad vodoo. I believe the Yugos shot plenty of corrosive ammo out of the their non chromed lined Yugo barrels. 
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Posted: 4/5/2012 8:57:10 AM
Atlantic got back with me and confirmed the barrels are made by Curtis from ak-builder and then chromed by superior plating in MN. The barrel I received would not fit in the trunnion and only accept the FSGB about .25 inch. So it is larger than these tolerances in these areas. I don't think fitting will be an issue.
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Posted: 4/5/2012 8:44:55 PM
Originally Posted By NinerRider:
Originally Posted By Alderleet:
With that however, you have to break out your garlic and crosses, and do a little chant before trying to get the original yugo barrel. To get the yugo barrel you have to deal with blackthorne/ak-parts-kit or whatever the hell he calls himself. From what i've heard from alot of folks on the AKfiles and theakforum.net is you need to be freaking careful dealing with that site and its owners. Besides, a hammer forged OEM barrel, vs a US made *Chrome Lined* barrel. I'll take the US in a freaking heartbeat, especially since i have a ton of corrosive Yugo surplus x39 ammo I ordered my kit on a Friday from Blackthorne and got it on the following Tuesday. The Yugo barrel is much better for numerous reason the least of which the journals aren't turned to small for the trunnions. There are numerous threads on the forums mentioned about their US barrels hand fitting into the trunnion thus requiring the barrel to be knurled which is bad vodoo. I believe the Yugos shot plenty of corrosive ammo out of the their non chromed lined Yugo barrels. What are the other reasons? |
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Posted: 4/6/2012 3:26:54 PM
[Last Edit: 4/6/2012 3:30:57 PM by NinerRider]
Originally Posted By AEnemaBay: Accuracy, collect-abilty, hammer forged as opposed to button holing, piece of mind knowing your barrel journals won't be to small for the trunnion. I put a micrometer and calipers to all the journals on the barrel, they are all .0025 smaller than the parts that press on, that is the perfect press fit.Originally Posted By NinerRider: Originally Posted By Alderleet: With that however, you have to break out your garlic and crosses, and do a little chant before trying to get the original yugo barrel. To get the yugo barrel you have to deal with blackthorne/ak-parts-kit or whatever the hell he calls himself. From what i've heard from alot of folks on the AKfiles and theakforum.net is you need to be freaking careful dealing with that site and its owners. Besides, a hammer forged OEM barrel, vs a US made *Chrome Lined* barrel. I'll take the US in a freaking heartbeat, especially since i have a ton of corrosive Yugo surplus x39 ammo I ordered my kit on a Friday from Blackthorne and got it on the following Tuesday. The Yugo barrel is much better for numerous reason the least of which the journals aren't turned to small for the trunnions. There are numerous threads on the forums mentioned about their US barrels hand fitting into the trunnion thus requiring the barrel to be knurled which is bad vodoo. I believe the Yugos shot plenty of corrosive ammo out of the their non chromed lined Yugo barrels. What are the other reasons? |
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Posted: 4/6/2012 4:12:38 PM
received my kit today. ordered monday night and it was here when I got home today. pretty quick shipping I thought. I added a note to have it double boxed and to match the handgaurds. they did double box it and the gaurds match pretty good. I dont know if they took the time to match them or thats just how they come cause they were sealed in the bag with the other parts.
now the hard part is here waiting for my receiver and then the wait for the form 1 to be approved. |
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Posted: 4/6/2012 8:38:30 PM
Originally Posted By NinerRider:
Originally Posted By AEnemaBay:
Accuracy, collect-abilty, hammer forged as opposed to button holing, piece of mind knowing your barrel journals won't be to small for the trunnion. I put a micrometer and calipers to all the journals on the barrel, they are all .0025 smaller than the parts that press on, that is the perfect press fit.
Originally Posted By NinerRider:
Originally Posted By Alderleet:
With that however, you have to break out your garlic and crosses, and do a little chant before trying to get the original yugo barrel. To get the yugo barrel you have to deal with blackthorne/ak-parts-kit or whatever the hell he calls himself. From what i've heard from alot of folks on the AKfiles and theakforum.net is you need to be freaking careful dealing with that site and its owners. Besides, a hammer forged OEM barrel, vs a US made *Chrome Lined* barrel. I'll take the US in a freaking heartbeat, especially since i have a ton of corrosive Yugo surplus x39 ammo I ordered my kit on a Friday from Blackthorne and got it on the following Tuesday. The Yugo barrel is much better for numerous reason the least of which the journals aren't turned to small for the trunnions. There are numerous threads on the forums mentioned about their US barrels hand fitting into the trunnion thus requiring the barrel to be knurled which is bad vodoo. I believe the Yugos shot plenty of corrosive ammo out of the their non chromed lined Yugo barrels. What are the other reasons? Accuracy? You can guarantee that because it's a foreign barrel that it'll outshoot a US made barrel? You're right on collectability. No one would know the difference if you were to hand them a button rifled barrel and a hammer forged one. This whole US vs foreign barrel thing is getting really rediculous. |
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Posted: 4/6/2012 11:01:44 PM
Originally Posted By AEnemaBay: Originally Posted By NinerRider: Originally Posted By AEnemaBay: Accuracy, collect-abilty, hammer forged as opposed to button holing, piece of mind knowing your barrel journals won't be to small for the trunnion. I put a micrometer and calipers to all the journals on the barrel, they are all .0025 smaller than the parts that press on, that is the perfect press fit.Originally Posted By NinerRider: Originally Posted By Alderleet: With that however, you have to break out your garlic and crosses, and do a little chant before trying to get the original yugo barrel. To get the yugo barrel you have to deal with blackthorne/ak-parts-kit or whatever the hell he calls himself. From what i've heard from alot of folks on the AKfiles and theakforum.net is you need to be freaking careful dealing with that site and its owners. Besides, a hammer forged OEM barrel, vs a US made *Chrome Lined* barrel. I'll take the US in a freaking heartbeat, especially since i have a ton of corrosive Yugo surplus x39 ammo I ordered my kit on a Friday from Blackthorne and got it on the following Tuesday. The Yugo barrel is much better for numerous reason the least of which the journals aren't turned to small for the trunnions. There are numerous threads on the forums mentioned about their US barrels hand fitting into the trunnion thus requiring the barrel to be knurled which is bad vodoo. I believe the Yugos shot plenty of corrosive ammo out of the their non chromed lined Yugo barrels. What are the other reasons? Accuracy? You can guarantee that because it's a foreign barrel that it'll outshoot a US made barrel? You're right on collectability. No one would know the difference if you were to hand them a button rifled barrel and a hammer forged one. This whole US vs foreign barrel thing is getting really rediculous. Yeah I guarantee it, three times your money back! Don't know much about barrels do you? Hammer forged is the preferable way to make barrels, that is why American barrel manufactures are finally getting around to it. The problem is it is expensive and not attainable for small barrel manufactures thus a cheaper less desirable method is used. Think about it, the Yugos made barrels in the millions as opposed to some US company making a run of 100 or even a 1000. Lets not even get into the journal issues that some of these US barrels are coming with. I see the desire to us a US barrel, all the work is done for those who don't have the machinery to fit the barrel. |
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AEnemaBay
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Posted: 4/7/2012 9:51:24 AM
Originally Posted By NinerRider:
Originally Posted By AEnemaBay:
Originally Posted By NinerRider:
Originally Posted By AEnemaBay:
Accuracy, collect-abilty, hammer forged as opposed to button holing, piece of mind knowing your barrel journals won't be to small for the trunnion. I put a micrometer and calipers to all the journals on the barrel, they are all .0025 smaller than the parts that press on, that is the perfect press fit.
Originally Posted By NinerRider:
Originally Posted By Alderleet:
With that however, you have to break out your garlic and crosses, and do a little chant before trying to get the original yugo barrel. To get the yugo barrel you have to deal with blackthorne/ak-parts-kit or whatever the hell he calls himself. From what i've heard from alot of folks on the AKfiles and theakforum.net is you need to be freaking careful dealing with that site and its owners. Besides, a hammer forged OEM barrel, vs a US made *Chrome Lined* barrel. I'll take the US in a freaking heartbeat, especially since i have a ton of corrosive Yugo surplus x39 ammo I ordered my kit on a Friday from Blackthorne and got it on the following Tuesday. The Yugo barrel is much better for numerous reason the least of which the journals aren't turned to small for the trunnions. There are numerous threads on the forums mentioned about their US barrels hand fitting into the trunnion thus requiring the barrel to be knurled which is bad vodoo. I believe the Yugos shot plenty of corrosive ammo out of the their non chromed lined Yugo barrels. What are the other reasons? Accuracy? You can guarantee that because it's a foreign barrel that it'll outshoot a US made barrel? You're right on collectability. No one would know the difference if you were to hand them a button rifled barrel and a hammer forged one. This whole US vs foreign barrel thing is getting really rediculous. Yeah I guarantee it, three times your money back! Don't know much about barrels do you? Hammer forged is the preferable way to make barrels, that is why American barrel manufactures are finally getting around to it. The problem is it is expensive and not attainable for small barrel manufactures thus a cheaper less desirable method is used. Think about it, the Yugos made barrels in the millions as opposed to some US company making a run of 100 or even a 1000. Lets not even get into the journal issues that some of these US barrels are coming with. I see the desire to us a US barrel, all the work is done for those who don't have the machinery to fit the barrel. I know a little about barrels. I worked along side some of the best sniper rifle builders in the country while in the Marine Corps, both for the military and civilian side (look up Iron Brigade Armory). Hammer forging is the preferable way to make barrels IN MASS QUANTITY because it's faster and cheaper in the long run, but that doesn't make them inherently more accurate than a cut barrel. They can be, I'll give you that, but a lot more work goes into those barrels than just throwing them in the forging machine and slapping them on a rifle. American companies are getting into it because it is a great way to make a lot of barrels and because they can charge extra for it and people will pay. The last 4 AK variants I've built have been with US barrels and I haven't had to mess with the journals aside from a little sanding and polishing the contact areas. My latest Romanian barrel from Apex, however, needed to be knurled at the rear sight base journal because it wouldn't fit ANY RSB I had in stock. |
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Posted: 4/8/2012 2:39:43 PM
[Last Edit: 4/8/2012 2:41:02 PM by ATLANTIC-FIREARMS]
The Rumor that imported barrels are so much better is over hyped on the internet and has been passed around soooo many times that it has become truth. The other myth is that the US can not make a AK barrel. We sell both US and imported barrels so have no specific loyalty to one or the other a In Spec US barrel is quite fine. We can build AR15 barrels ,,Barret 50 cal barrels so no problem building AK barrels as long as the Specs are correct. The whole rumor of the US AK barrel deal started when Century Arms sent out the Tantal barrels that were out of spec. There is no such thing as Military machine gun AK barrels vs semi auto US barrels they do not offer a choice of full auto or semi. Imported AK barrels are not made with better steel .If it makes you feel better with a imported barrel then for it the decision should be up to you and what you feel comfortable with.
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Posted: 4/8/2012 5:48:16 PM
Originally Posted By ATLANTIC-FIREARMS:
The Rumor that imported barrels are so much better is over hyped on the internet and has been passed around soooo many times that it has become truth. The other myth is that the US can not make a AK barrel. We sell both US and imported barrels so have no specific loyalty to one or the other a In Spec US barrel is quite fine. We can build AR15 barrels ,,Barret 50 cal barrels so no problem building AK barrels as long as the Specs are correct. The whole rumor of the US AK barrel deal started when Century Arms sent out the Tantal barrels that were out of spec. There is no such thing as Military machine gun AK barrels vs semi auto US barrels they do not offer a choice of full auto or semi. Imported AK barrels are not made with better steel .If it makes you feel better with a imported barrel then for it the decision should be up to you and what you feel comfortable with. This +1000 |
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Posted: 4/8/2012 6:17:32 PM
Originally Posted By ATLANTIC-FIREARMS:
The Rumor that imported barrels are so much better is over hyped on the internet and has been passed around soooo many times that it has become truth. The other myth is that the US can not make a AK barrel. We sell both US and imported barrels so have no specific loyalty to one or the other a In Spec US barrel is quite fine. We can build AR15 barrels ,,Barret 50 cal barrels so no problem building AK barrels as long as the Specs are correct. The whole rumor of the US AK barrel deal started when Century Arms sent out the Tantal barrels that were out of spec. There is no such thing as Military machine gun AK barrels vs semi auto US barrels they do not offer a choice of full auto or semi. Imported AK barrels are not made with better steel .If it makes you feel better with a imported barrel then for it the decision should be up to you and what you feel comfortable with. The barrel I got from Atlantic with my M92 kit is NOT poorly made. The chrome in the bore is done very well and the place Atlantic farms these out to has been in business for 90 years or so. As stated earlier, it is not undersized and will be as reliable as any barrel made. When the build is complete I will post accuracy results and I expect them to be outstanding. At the very least, thanks to Blaine for offering the barrels with the kits. Once someone said to me about a certain gun that "you can't shoot full auto out of that barrel because it will burn it out" I said "why not?" their response was "it's not weapons grade steel" So yes, the barrel thing is out of proportion but most problems came from the wrong caliber barrel or a poorly made gun, not the barrel or material itself. |
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Posted: 4/16/2012 1:51:29 AM
Originally Posted By NinerRider: Originally Posted By Alderleet: With that however, you have to break out your garlic and crosses, and do a little chant before trying to get the original yugo barrel. To get the yugo barrel you have to deal with blackthorne/ak-parts-kit or whatever the hell he calls himself. From what i've heard from alot of folks on the AKfiles and theakforum.net is you need to be freaking careful dealing with that site and its owners. Besides, a hammer forged OEM barrel, vs a US made *Chrome Lined* barrel. I'll take the US in a freaking heartbeat, especially since i have a ton of corrosive Yugo surplus x39 ammo I ordered my kit on a Friday from Blackthorne and got it on the following Tuesday. The Yugo barrel is much better for numerous reason the least of which the journals aren't turned to small for the trunnions. There are numerous threads on the forums mentioned about their US barrels hand fitting into the trunnion thus requiring the barrel to be knurled which is bad vodoo. I believe the Yugos shot plenty of corrosive ammo out of the their non chromed lined Yugo barrels. I ordered an M92 kit today from Blackthorne. I had a UPS tracking number within a few hours, impressive for a Sunday. Hopefully all goes well with my order. I will post the results of my dealings with them when I get the kit. So far so good I guess. As for the barrel issue that's being discussed, I went with Blackthorne kit because it was cheapest I could find, and had the Yugo barrel. I have no issues with US made barrels, but am going with the Yugo barrel for purist reasons. |
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Posted: 4/23/2012 7:28:24 PM
Originally Posted By Troubledjoe: Originally Posted By NinerRider: Originally Posted By Alderleet: With that however, you have to break out your garlic and crosses, and do a little chant before trying to get the original yugo barrel. To get the yugo barrel you have to deal with blackthorne/ak-parts-kit or whatever the hell he calls himself. From what i've heard from alot of folks on the AKfiles and theakforum.net is you need to be freaking careful dealing with that site and its owners. Besides, a hammer forged OEM barrel, vs a US made *Chrome Lined* barrel. I'll take the US in a freaking heartbeat, especially since i have a ton of corrosive Yugo surplus x39 ammo I ordered my kit on a Friday from Blackthorne and got it on the following Tuesday. The Yugo barrel is much better for numerous reason the least of which the journals aren't turned to small for the trunnions. There are numerous threads on the forums mentioned about their US barrels hand fitting into the trunnion thus requiring the barrel to be knurled which is bad vodoo. I believe the Yugos shot plenty of corrosive ammo out of the their non chromed lined Yugo barrels. I ordered an M92 kit today from Blackthorne. I had a UPS tracking number within a few hours, impressive for a Sunday. Hopefully all goes well with my order. I will post the results of my dealings with them when I get the kit. So far so good I guess. As for the barrel issue that's being discussed, I went with Blackthorne kit because it was cheapest I could find, and had the Yugo barrel. I have no issues with US made barrels, but am going with the Yugo barrel for purist reasons.
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