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Link Posted: 1/30/2012 8:16:01 PM EST
Full conversion with some black laminate love. 5.45x39 Saiga.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a35/decraig2000/IMG-20120130-00012.jpg
Link Posted: 2/12/2012 12:26:30 AM EST
[Last Edit: 2/12/2012 12:22:59 PM EST by faldoc]
Saiga-12 garage conversion...
Mako folding stock with cheek piece adjustment, K-var grips, MD Arms plug and flash hider, Arsenal trigger group, RS Aimpoint mount.Riveted AK-builder trigger group with re-inforcement plate.

Although you can shoot the gun with the stock folded, the cheek piece must be all the way down and it is hard to cock the gun or operate the safety. I would have preferred to have the stock fold to the left, but the hinge mechanism makes it impossible to slide the scope mount on and off.


Link Posted: 2/16/2012 11:07:08 AM EST
[Last Edit: 2/16/2012 11:08:06 AM EST by olds442tyguy]
Is this do'able?

I want to move the front sight back as close to the long Saiga handguard as possible, chop the barrel, and weld a flash hider on it maintaing 16" OAL.

Also who makes the farthest extending railed handguard for a Saiga 7.62?
Link Posted: 2/16/2012 12:40:04 PM EST

Originally Posted By olds442tyguy:

clip...

I want to move the front sight back as close to the long Saiga handguard as possible, chop the barrel, and weld a flash hider on it maintaing 16" OAL.

clip....

yes. But to do it yourself, you're running into a grey area. If you're going to post it on the net, I'd find someone with a proper license to modify weapons to do it for you.
Link Posted: 2/16/2012 4:43:08 PM EST
Originally Posted By nictra:

Originally Posted By olds442tyguy:

clip...

I want to move the front sight back as close to the long Saiga handguard as possible, chop the barrel, and weld a flash hider on it maintaing 16" OAL.

clip....

yes. But to do it yourself, you're running into a grey area. If you're going to post it on the net, I'd find someone with a proper license to modify weapons to do it for you.


Are there any other issues outside of 922? Or is a permanenttly attached muzzle device on a shorter barrel frowned upon?
Link Posted: 2/16/2012 7:14:33 PM EST

Originally Posted By olds442tyguy:
Originally Posted By nictra:

Originally Posted By olds442tyguy:

clip...

I want to move the front sight back as close to the long Saiga handguard as possible, chop the barrel, and weld a flash hider on it maintaing 16" OAL.

clip....

yes. But to do it yourself, you're running into a grey area. If you're going to post it on the net, I'd find someone with a proper license to modify weapons to do it for you.


Are there any other issues outside of 922? Or is a permanenttly attached muzzle device on a shorter barrel frowned upon?

Only thing I can think of would be the brief period between cutting the barrel down, and permanently attaching the flash guard. During that timeframe, you'd be in possession of an illegal SBS. I can't really think of anything else that would be problematic.

Link Posted: 2/16/2012 10:01:55 PM EST
Bingo. For a period you have a short barrel. When permanently attaching, 922r does not affect IIRC
Link Posted: 2/16/2012 11:27:17 PM EST
It would be done by another party, likely one with an SOT.
Link Posted: 2/28/2012 10:14:57 PM EST
OK, so I am new to the board so please be kind...

I have a SGL21-61 that I would like to have converted so I can put a multi-position stock on it. I have no tools, no experience, and no time to try to do the conversion myself, (although I think it would be really cool to learn how to do it.).

Is there a trust-worthy person in the Houston-Sugar Land, TX area that could do the conversion for me?

TIA,

Jim
Link Posted: 3/8/2012 8:30:01 PM EST
bump
Link Posted: 3/10/2012 11:34:51 AM EST
Link Posted: 3/11/2012 1:23:50 PM EST
just painted a saiga 308...thought I would share it here.
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o16/joel032276/IMG_7961.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o16/joel032276/IMG_7962.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o16/joel032276/IMG_7960.jpg

I call it "Earth Tiger"

this is what we do...enjoy

carnimore.com
Link Posted: 3/19/2012 8:44:53 AM EST
Updated photo of the 12, don't have a pic with the drum on her though
Link Posted: 3/24/2012 12:02:44 AM EST
[Last Edit: 3/24/2012 12:03:32 AM EST by irierider]
Link Posted: 3/24/2012 12:03:17 AM EST
Link Posted: 4/1/2012 7:14:03 PM EST
here's my latest. same config as the last. Strange to be back into 7.62x39 after so long...

trying to figure out if this is one if the Venezuelan overruns. Has some of the characteristics, but not all.






Link Posted: 4/6/2012 10:58:22 PM EST
Here is my .308 conversion. K-Var stock,Hogue grip,Weaver 3-9x38 scope,G2 trigger and 3 factory 8rnd mags converted to hold 2 more rounds each. It'll shoot MOA at 100yds with Sellior & Bellot 150gr.


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Link Posted: 5/13/2012 10:31:28 AM EST



Noticed your working on getting rid of the match striker. How did it turn out?
Link Posted: 5/14/2012 7:26:22 AM EST
well I ended up smoothing it out w/ JB weld like bondo and refinished it. Not baby-butt smooth, but came out ok.







it actually looked about 10 times better in person, the camera really magnified the flaws. That being said, I'd rather let someone who really works w/ metal do it next time. Hopefully people snag them all up and new ones start coming w/o the old importers mark scrubbed.
Link Posted: 5/14/2012 9:19:35 AM EST
Originally Posted By nictra:
well I ended up smoothing it out w/ JB weld like bondo and refinished it. Not baby-butt smooth, but came out ok.

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b232/NICTRA/74%20for%20sale/100_0332.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b232/NICTRA/74%20for%20sale/100_0331.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b232/NICTRA/74%20for%20sale/100_0338.jpg

it actually looked about 10 times better in person, the camera really magnified the flaws. That being said, I'd rather let someone who really works w/ metal do it next time. Hopefully people snag them all up and new ones start coming w/o the old importers mark scrubbed.


So, you just sanded it down, filled with JB weld and smoothed that out?

I'm thinking about trying to do the same.
Link Posted: 5/14/2012 9:31:13 AM EST
pretty much. Used my dremel and a cutting wheel attachment. Slow and steady then used JB weld like it was bondo. Thin amount, let dry and sand down.
Link Posted: 5/18/2012 11:46:55 AM EST
Originally Posted By jonathon:
For those that are looking for a matching paint to hit the receiver with after removing the Clinton Trigger Plate... look no further than the $6 can of Duplicolor Low Gloss Engine Enamel.

http://i660.photobucket.com/albums/uu321/Pentagon556/guns/saiga/saiga-223-duplicolor.jpg

It's a perfect match in person and under a camera flash.. only way I can tell is because there is a ridge where the paint met the tape.
And an easy way to avoid the "ridge" is to not use ANY tape what so ever. Look ma', no ridge! It helps blend the paint too for an 100% factory look. Thats how I do mine and it comes out perfect every single time.

Link Posted: 5/18/2012 12:23:15 PM EST
Hmm - I was going to settle for leaving the pins in there, but since yours looks so nice I may try it. What did you use to refinish it? Seem like I heard that JBWeld doesn't take to refinishing well, but no so with yours. Could this be done w/ plain jane sandpaper (Saiga noob here)?
Link Posted: 5/18/2012 2:04:42 PM EST
I refinish with durabake.
Link Posted: 5/25/2012 3:32:49 PM EST
Impressive cammo. I have to say that is a good job with the choice of base color then choosing relevent contrasts to include the shadowing.
Link Posted: 6/2/2012 2:55:04 PM EST
Just finished this one last night.

Link Posted: 6/15/2012 1:15:27 PM EST
Refinished my furniture.







Link Posted: 6/30/2012 10:13:53 AM EST
Changed over to the ACS stock, helped with recoil by an immense amount.

Link Posted: 7/2/2012 4:44:01 PM EST
Got my rifle how I want it now. 922r compliant as well.





Link Posted: 8/17/2012 2:59:41 PM EST
Here are a couple of .223's:

Link Posted: 8/20/2012 6:54:58 PM EST
I don't have all the time in the world to read every post in this thread, so someone please help me and point me in the right direction. I have a Saiga in 7.62x39mm, and want to convert it so it looks cool and takes AK mags. Everything I have found one the interweb for converting a Saiga is for a Saiga 12. Where can I find the parts to make some magic happen???
Link Posted: 8/20/2012 7:29:52 PM EST

Originally Posted By dbbeacham:
I don't have all the time in the world to read every post in this thread, so someone please help me and point me in the right direction. I have a Saiga in 7.62x39mm, and want to convert it so it looks cool and takes AK mags. Everything I have found one the interweb for converting a Saiga is for a Saiga 12. Where can I find the parts to make some magic happen???

Carolina Shooter's Supply. Converting to a pistol grip is the same as it is with the 12. To take AK mags you'll need a bullet guide and you may have to modify the mag catch a bit.
Link Posted: 8/27/2012 5:19:53 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/27/2012 5:20:40 PM EST by Damagedworld]


This will likely be my last AK build... Put together to run common parts/ammo with my AR15... having drop free mags is nice as well..
556 AK with AR magazines.. win..

Saiga 556
Magpul CTR
Ace Pignose Adapter
Ace Internal Block
Dinzag Tapco G2 FCG
Hogue Grip
MSA AR15 Magwell
Magpul Pmag
Magpul MS3
Kvar Lower Handguard
CSS Lower Handguard Retainer
Ultimak Gas Tube
Vltor Quick Release Flashlight Mount
Surefire G2
Aimpoint H1

Link Posted: 9/17/2012 10:37:59 AM EST
My one and only, a Saiga 7.62x39 that I converted to an underfolder and rust-blued:



I was very trepidatious before I cut that first hole for the underfolder mechanism. After that first cut, it all went smoothly, though.



I set up the underfolder mechanism so it could be installed for left-handed operation or right-handed, and also so I could switch back to a fixed-stock trunnion if I ever wanted to. I'm a lefty, so I have it set up for a lefty currently. Yes, the rear trunnion is attached by screws. Seems to be staying tight.



The rust bluing It's shiny and lustrous and prob'ly over the top for an AK-type weapon, but so what? Who cares if it's guilding the lilly? I wanted an underfolder and prefer blued firearms over painted firearms.



It sure is a nice, handy package to store when the stock is folded. The underfolder locks and unlocks smoothly and is as tight as a bank vault.



Next, a custom peep sight to make it easier to hit with my 50-year-old eyes.
Link Posted: 9/18/2012 3:03:31 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/18/2012 3:03:53 PM EST by bjonesgtaw]
very nice, i did the exact same thing on my polish trunion before i riveted it in. i also cut and rewelded the handguard retainer sling hook to opposite side of the rifle too.
Link Posted: 9/19/2012 1:15:06 PM EST
Thanks. I wish I had welded on my retainer.
Link Posted: 9/20/2012 1:58:05 AM EST
i honestly wish i wouldnt have. that way it would be left handed when i ran my sling in a single point its perfect for a lefty and and when i slung it over my back in a 2 point sling fashion i wouldnt have the charging handle dug into my back. right now your setup just like the new russian rifles.
Link Posted: 10/14/2012 2:49:51 PM EST




Sgl21
Link Posted: 10/19/2012 11:08:44 AM EST
My S12 is pretty much done



Link Posted: 10/20/2012 10:01:08 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/20/2012 10:31:18 PM EST


Don't know yet, I've been stuck at work ever since I finished it. Should get a chance to shoot it sometime next week.
Link Posted: 10/27/2012 7:36:32 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/8/2012 7:24:28 PM EST by SgtRaven]
.223 Saiga conversion with customized G2 FCG, Fuglystick handguard (custom pattern), Hogue PG, Harris B/P, Miculek compensator on 1/2-28 thread, ACE folder, Magpul MOE stock, Primary Arms 1-4x red dot on modified VOMZ mount.

http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b537/SgtRaven/AKAR-Harris1_zpsdc5c1729.jpg

http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b537/SgtRaven/gallery_28515_747_2135781_zps67a52974.jpg

Video:
[youtube]http://youtu.be/6EZkaYwZHik[/youtube]
Link Posted: 12/3/2012 1:18:45 PM EST
Link Posted: 12/27/2012 7:34:06 PM EST
[Last Edit: 1/21/2013 6:48:01 AM EST by SgtRaven]
And my "AKAR-DA": Saiga-based AK "ass-ault weapon" in .223 with (permanent) AR mag well and LRBHO.
Core built by Definitive Arms, LLC (ARFCOM Business Member).
Handguard by Fuglystick; Harris bipod.
Fully 922(r) compliant.
Fully eligible for "Ass-ault Weapons Ban".


http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b537/SgtRaven/DSC_0352s_zps4a6e611b.jpg

http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b537/SgtRaven/DSC_0377-s_zps7513d4cb.jpg

MI 30mm AK sidemount, Leatherwood CMR 1-4x, custom Fuglystick hand guard, and Harris bipod.
Link Posted: 1/10/2013 8:20:07 PM EST
Link Posted: 1/26/2013 7:24:45 AM EST
[Last Edit: 1/26/2013 7:52:02 AM EST by dreese]
hey guys I'm new to AK47 and I appear to have bought a partially converted saiga. It came with the box, manual and two 30rd mags. It has a pistol grip, buttstock, fcg moved forward and bullet guide installed. I want the upper and lower hand guards installed since that has not been done. But my questions are...
1. Do I need to install a different gas tube? if so, why?
2. Will I need a lower hand guard retainer (seems so)?
3. Since the fcg was moved forward would it already have the fcg retainer plate? I noticed the trigger was by tapco if that helps any
4. I am confused about the barrel end. The barrel extends about 1 inch past the front sight. How do I make it "threaded" to put a flash hider on it and is there any downsides to using a flash hider? DO I just buy a whole new barrel?
5. Is akm buttstock good? Seems longer than usual.
6. Should I keep the ventilated Saiga forend??

Answers for these questions and any product recommendations would be so helpfulhttp://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQmPOnHtsN8pqqiHrwc7v8CBFQbhgvjVeVnA7d2l­0x4Z1O1nsp6ig

this is exactly what my ak looks like. Has a side mount scope rail, imported by RWC Group, LLC.

Specifications:
• Accepts AK-47 Mags
• AKM Buttstock & Pistol Grip
• Action: Semi-Automatic
• Caliber: 7.62x39
• Russian Mfg.
• Barrel: Chrome Lined
• Barrel Length: 16 Inches
• Stock: Black Synthetic
Link Posted: 1/26/2013 3:01:56 PM EST
Originally Posted By dreese:
hey guys I'm new to AK47 and I appear to have bought a partially converted saiga. It came with the box, manual and two 30rd mags. It has a pistol grip, buttstock, fcg moved forward and bullet guide installed. I want the upper and lower hand guards installed since that has not been done. But my questions are...
1. Do I need to install a different gas tube? if so, why?
2. Will I need a lower hand guard retainer (seems so)?
3. Since the fcg was moved forward would it already have the fcg retainer plate? I noticed the trigger was by tapco if that helps any
4. I am confused about the barrel end. The barrel extends about 1 inch past the front sight. How do I make it "threaded" to put a flash hider on it and is there any downsides to using a flash hider? DO I just buy a whole new barrel?
5. Is akm buttstock good? Seems longer than usual.
6. Should I keep the ventilated Saiga forend??


1. You need to install a different gas tube if you wish to use standard AK handguards, the upper gas tube needs the handguard retainers to be able to use a normal AK upper handguard.
2. If you want to use standard AK handguard, yes. You are going to need a bolt on handguard retainer.
3. It will either have a retaining plate or shephards crook, both work perfectly fine. The benefit to the plate is that it is easier to install.
4. It may be threaded and capped. If that's the case then the cap is probably pinned on and needs to be dremeled off. If not, then you can just thread the muzzle, it's pretty simple, you can do it yourself with some tools. If you want 24mm threads like all the current Russian AKs have then you'll need to replace the front sight block.
5. Going by the picture, that is not a standard AK buttstock, the shape is wrong and it looks to be NATO length. You can easily replace it with any standard AK fixed stock.
6. Up to you, it's personal preference.
Link Posted: 2/3/2013 12:44:01 PM EST
[Last Edit: 2/3/2013 12:46:07 PM EST by Norm0931]


My converted Saiga 7.62. I really enjoyed doing this conversion and specifically bought a Saiga for the adventure. I still want to Cerakote some of the parts in FDE and others in black. I am looking to pick up an Aimpoint T-1 as an optic but, with the Krebs rear sight it really makes the irons fast and accurate. I do need to bend the Krebs selector in a little to tighten it up, it's a little sloppy for my liking at the moment. Also, I want to pick up a riser for the stock.
Link Posted: 2/8/2013 7:34:56 PM EST
Just finished the conversion of a Saiga in 7.62, I got it at a local pawn shop, luckily I put it on layaway prior to the current crisis and got it for a good price.

Before:


After:




Now I need to find a Kvar 107CR barrel shroud.
Link Posted: 2/20/2013 10:39:45 PM EST


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