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Posted: 2/8/2014 9:44:46 PM EDT
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Not sure what your definition of reasonable is, but CSS has the DPH Arms piece in stock: http://www.carolinashooterssupply.com/product_p/dph-int-sleeve-adpt.htm
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Posted: 2/8/2014 10:07:08 PM EDT
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Thanks.
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Posted: 2/8/2014 10:38:07 PM EDT
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Not sure what your definition of reasonable is, but CSS has the DPH Arms piece in stock: http://www.carolinashooterssupply.com/product_p/dph-int-sleeve-adpt.htm I noticed in the link it says "Does not fit the older Robinson Arms Vepr!!! It is made to fit all TGI imported Vepr's." I have a TGI imported V2 and a Robinson imported V1 and my receivers are angled the same. In fact, my TGI is currently wearing my RA furniture. Are some of the TGI's different? |
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Posted: 2/8/2014 10:52:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I noticed in the link it says "Does not fit the older Robinson Arms Vepr!!! It is made to fit all TGI imported Vepr's." I have a TGI imported V2 and a Robinson imported V1 and my receivers are angled the same. In fact, my TGI is currently wearing my RA furniture. Are some of the TGI's different? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Not sure what your definition of reasonable is, but CSS has the DPH Arms piece in stock: http://www.carolinashooterssupply.com/product_p/dph-int-sleeve-adpt.htm I noticed in the link it says "Does not fit the older Robinson Arms Vepr!!! It is made to fit all TGI imported Vepr's." I have a TGI imported V2 and a Robinson imported V1 and my receivers are angled the same. In fact, my TGI is currently wearing my RA furniture. Are some of the TGI's different? Well, I can say from experience that some stocks/adapters for the newer Veprs will not fit certain Rob Arms rifles. I found out the hard way that a Bonesteel adapter tube will not fit my '99 Rob Arms .308. It wasn't even close to fitting. The angle was all wrong for the '99. I also found out (the hard way again) that the newer (later imports right before they stopped bringing them in) Rob Arms factory thumbhole stocks will not fit the older Rob Arms rifles like my '99 also. Something changed in the Rob Arms rifles over the years. Age of the Rob Arms rifle may play a part, but I don't have a large sample of Rob Arms rifles to experiment with parts on. I just have my '99. |
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Posted: 2/8/2014 10:58:35 PM EDT
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Well, I can say from experience that some stocks/adapters for the newer Veprs will not fit certain Rob Arms rifles. I found out the hard way that a Bonesteel adapter tube will not fit my '99 Rob Arms .308. It wasn't even close to fitting. The angle was all wrong for the '99. I also found out (the hard way again) that the newer (later imports right before they stopped bringing them in) Rob Arms factory thumbhole stocks will not fit the older Rob Arms rifles like my '99 also. Something changed in the Rob Arms rifles over the years. Age of the Rob Arms rifle may play a part, but I don't have a large sample of Rob Arms rifles to experiment with parts on. I just have my '99. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Not sure what your definition of reasonable is, but CSS has the DPH Arms piece in stock: http://www.carolinashooterssupply.com/product_p/dph-int-sleeve-adpt.htm I noticed in the link it says "Does not fit the older Robinson Arms Vepr!!! It is made to fit all TGI imported Vepr's." I have a TGI imported V2 and a Robinson imported V1 and my receivers are angled the same. In fact, my TGI is currently wearing my RA furniture. Are some of the TGI's different? Well, I can say from experience that some stocks/adapters for the newer Veprs will not fit certain Rob Arms rifles. I found out the hard way that a Bonesteel adapter tube will not fit my '99 Rob Arms .308. It wasn't even close to fitting. The angle was all wrong for the '99. I also found out (the hard way again) that the newer (later imports right before they stopped bringing them in) Rob Arms factory thumbhole stocks will not fit the older Rob Arms rifles like my '99 also. Something changed in the Rob Arms rifles over the years. Age of the Rob Arms rifle may play a part, but I don't have a large sample of Rob Arms rifles to experiment with parts on. I just have my '99. Interesting. I'll look at mine and see what year it was brought in. |
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Posted: 2/8/2014 11:02:46 PM EDT
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OK, my RA Vepr has 04 in white on the side of the receiver, and the serial number has 03 as the start. (is that 2003 or 2004?)
My TGI V2 has 11 stamped before the serial number (is that 2011?) |
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Posted: 2/8/2014 11:15:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: OK, my RA Vepr has 04 in white on the side of the receiver, and the serial number has 03 as the start. (is that 2003 or 2004?) My TGI V2 has 11 stamped before the serial number (is that 2011?) The date of the rifle is stamped into the front trunnion, it precedes the serial number. Yours is an '03. That is quite a coincidence, since the factory thumbhole stock that would not fit my Rob Arms '99 rifle was from an '03 rifle (according to the seller). Something seems to have changed in the geometry of the rear of the receiver between the older and newer Rob Arms Veprs. Maybe that is why some newer stocks/adapters work on Rob Arms rifles and some don't. Not sure. |
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Posted: 2/8/2014 11:17:02 PM EDT
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Weird. Thanks Liquidmetal!
ETA pic: 
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Posted: 2/8/2014 11:28:08 PM EDT
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Here's a Bonesteel tube made for the newer Veprs trying to fit up to my '99 Rob Arms rifle. It wasn't even close. Mounting holes were way off also.
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Posted: 2/8/2014 11:33:51 PM EDT
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Wow, that's not even close! I just ordered a stock from Ronin, and spoke with him and he used a Robinson stock as a template, so it should work fine for me. Glad I didn't order the Bonesteel like I started to.
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Posted: 2/9/2014 12:10:36 AM EDT
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Here's a Bonesteel tube made for the newer Veprs trying to fit up to my '99 Rob Arms rifle. It wasn't even close. Mounting holes were way off also. http://s20.postimg.org/ubl5do58d/Bonesteel_003.jpg http://s20.postimg.org/9sq98lrb1/Bonesteel_009.jpg I had better luck. On mine the screw holes lined up but there was a bit of gap between the stock and receiver. Bonesteel's AK 47 folder stock was perfect on my Maadi. |
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Posted: 2/9/2014 12:15:51 AM EDT
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I had better luck. On mine the screw holes lined up but there was a bit of gap between the stock and receiver. Bonesteel's AK 47 folder stock was perfect on my Maadi. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Here's a Bonesteel tube made for the newer Veprs trying to fit up to my '99 Rob Arms rifle. It wasn't even close. Mounting holes were way off also. http://s20.postimg.org/ubl5do58d/Bonesteel_003.jpg http://s20.postimg.org/9sq98lrb1/Bonesteel_009.jpg I had better luck. On mine the screw holes lined up but there was a bit of gap between the stock and receiver. Bonesteel's AK 47 folder stock was perfect on my Maadi. Yeah, mine was the same, like 1/8" off, very noticeable, I had to hack on it quite a bit and in the end drill and tap my own holes to get it to fit decently. OP, I believe Krebs also makes an adapter that you don't have to cut the tang off to use. Canis designs has a new adapter that is much cheaper that adapts to an AR style tube, but looks like it is on backorder at the moment. Right now I have modified my slantback stock on my x39, separated the PG part and recontoured and stained, works great. |
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Posted: 5/4/2014 11:13:23 PM EDT
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Here's a Bonesteel tube made for the newer Veprs trying to fit up to my '99 Rob Arms rifle. It wasn't even close. Mounting holes were way off also. http://s20.postimg.org/ubl5do58d/Bonesteel_003.jpg Here's a couple pics I took of my 1998 ZDF import .308 VEPR. I was trying to install a new adapter block I had purchased a couple years ago. It was one of their first batches, and I believe their adapters were designed to fit the more recent imports. Needless to say, it didn't work  I even machined the block further in an attempt to get it to fit, but the angle was a few degrees off on the slant cut step that mates up with the receiver. Just didn't look right, so I put the project on hold. Figured after a while, there'd be a company that would finally make an adapter that worked for our long-forgotten ZDF (Robarms?) imported models.
Could any of you take a similar photo, showing the exact angle of your older and more current VEPR slant cuts? I've always been curious and I have a suspicion that we will have a few different numbers... '98 receiver angle: 48 degrees. http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l160/minnesotamahem/IMAG0408.jpg Brand X adapter angle: 40 degrees http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l160/minnesotamahem/IMAG0412.jpg How it fit (after modification): http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l160/minnesotamahem/IMAG0402.jpg http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l160/minnesotamahem/IMAG0401.jpg http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l160/minnesotamahem/IMAG0398.jpg 
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Posted: 5/5/2014 6:35:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Here's a couple pics I took of my 1998 ZDF import .308 VEPR. I was trying to install a new adapter block I had purchased a couple years ago. It was one of their first batches, and I believe their adapters were designed to fit the more recent imports. Needless to say, it didn't work I even machined the block further in an attempt to get it to fit, but the angle was a few degrees off on the slant cut step that mates up with the receiver. Just didn't look right, so I put the project on hold. Figured after a while, there'd be a company that would finally make an adapter that worked for our long-forgotten ZDF (Robarms?) imported models. Could any of you take a similar photo, showing the exact angle of your older and more current VEPR slant cuts? I've always been curious and I have a suspicion that we will have a few different numbers... '98 receiver angle: 48 degrees. http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l160/minnesotamahem/IMAG0408.jpg Brand X adapter angle: 40 degrees http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l160/minnesotamahem/IMAG0412.jpg How it fit (after modification): http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l160/minnesotamahem/IMAG0402.jpg http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l160/minnesotamahem/IMAG0401.jpg http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l160/minnesotamahem/IMAG0398.jpg Looks like an early DPH Arms adapter. You can tell by the thicker walls of the adapter, later ones had much thinner walls that required you to remove less material from the stock going into it. I had one but sold it without ever trying it on a rifle. And yes, ZDF is Rob Arms. |
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Posted: 5/5/2014 8:15:16 AM EDT
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Looks like an early DPH Arms adapter. You can tell by the thicker walls of the adapter, later ones had much thinner walls that required you to remove less material from the stock going into it. I had one but sold it without ever trying it on a rifle. And yes, ZDF is Rob Arms. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Here's a couple pics I took of my 1998 ZDF import .308 VEPR. I was trying to install a new adapter block I had purchased a couple years ago. It was one of their first batches, and I believe their adapters were designed to fit the more recent imports. Needless to say, it didn't work I even machined the block further in an attempt to get it to fit, but the angle was a few degrees off on the slant cut step that mates up with the receiver. Just didn't look right, so I put the project on hold. Figured after a while, there'd be a company that would finally make an adapter that worked for our long-forgotten ZDF (Robarms?) imported models.
Could any of you take a similar photo, showing the exact angle of your older and more current VEPR slant cuts? I've always been curious and I have a suspicion that we will have a few different numbers... '98 receiver angle: 48 degrees. http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l160/minnesotamahem/IMAG0408.jpg Brand X adapter angle: 40 degrees http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l160/minnesotamahem/IMAG0412.jpg How it fit (after modification): http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l160/minnesotamahem/IMAG0402.jpg http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l160/minnesotamahem/IMAG0401.jpg http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l160/minnesotamahem/IMAG0398.jpg
Looks like an early DPH Arms adapter. You can tell by the thicker walls of the adapter, later ones had much thinner walls that required you to remove less material from the stock going into it. I had one but sold it without ever trying it on a rifle. And yes, ZDF is Rob Arms. Yep. I believe that was the DPH adapter. What kind of furniture came on your '99 Rob Arms? Was it the black poly? If I could find a set of the poly furniture, I'd just bolt that up and be done with it! My 98 came with the wood thumbhole and handguard. |
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Posted: 5/5/2014 12:44:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep. I believe that was the DPH adapter. What kind of furniture came on your '99 Rob Arms? Was it the black poly? If I could find a set of the poly furniture, I'd just bolt that up and be done with it! My 98 came with the wood thumbhole and handguard. My '99 came with the wood thumbhole stock and handguard as well. I'm one of those that like the factory thumbhole stock in my application (DMR-type rifle), so I don't consider that to be a negative. |
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Posted: 5/6/2014 11:35:49 AM EDT
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My '99 came with the wood thumbhole stock and handguard as well. I'm one of those that like the factory thumbhole stock in my application (DMR-type rifle), so I don't consider that to be a negative. I don't mind the original stock either. Always wanted to set my VEPR apart though. Does anyone have any experience with this stock and handguard? I'm guessing they're also designed to fit only the newer imports as well.. http://blackhorsearsenal.gostorego.com/vepr-svd-composite-polymer-stock-expandable-slant-back-receiver.html |
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Posted: 5/6/2014 1:16:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't mind the original stock either. Always wanted to set my VEPR apart though. Does anyone have any experience with this stock and handguard? I'm guessing they're also designed to fit only the newer imports as well.. http://blackhorsearsenal.gostorego.com/vepr-svd-composite-polymer-stock-expandable-slant-back-receiver.html Do business with Black Horse at your own risk. They will certainly take your money, whether or not you get your product is another matter. |
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Posted: 5/6/2014 1:24:59 PM EDT
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Do business with Black Horse at your own risk. They will certainly take your money, whether or not you get your product is another matter. 'Nuff said!! Tried contacting them a while back and never got a reply. Easy to get drawn in by fancy looking websites. Still waiting for someone to post up some pics of their newish VEPR slant cut angles... Anybody 
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Posted: 5/6/2014 2:26:39 PM EDT
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The Canis adapters are available now:
ETA: Oops, still says backorder, I know they shipped a few so likely they sold out the first run, not surprising, solid products, best bang for the buck in a slantback adapter. 
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Posted: 5/6/2014 5:18:27 PM EDT
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Not for the faint of heart but if you want to fit an adapter to an older rifle, increase the cut on the receiver to match the adapter.
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Posted: 5/7/2014 12:24:48 AM EDT
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Not for the faint of heart but if you want to fit an adapter to an older rifle, increase the cut on the receiver to match the adapter. No way  I'd rather buy a new one.
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Posted: 5/7/2014 9:01:54 PM EDT
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That works too
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Posted: 7/21/2014 2:33:29 PM EDT
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I, too, have been stuck trying to figure what to do with my ROBARMS VEPR K...
Interestingly, when I bought my KTR-03V on the EE, I found the Ace VEPR receiver block worked perfectly, but it did require me to chop the tang off the back of the rear trunnion, thus making the mod permanent. That was fine in that case, but for the VEPR K, I'd really like to retain the option to go back to the original furniture, so cutting the tang is not an option. Wouldn't you know it? Every option out there right now specifically states that it's no good for the ROBARMS VEPRs. 
So I've resigned myself to keeping the original stock from the KTR (ventilated) on the K... |
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