Previous Page
Page:  / 4
Author
Message
SgtRaven
Offline
Posts: 29
Feedback: 0% (0)
Posted: 12/22/2012 11:19:33 PM EST
[Last Edit: 1/28/2013 12:49:34 AM EST by SgtRaven]
style='font-size: 12pt;']Just received (Christmas is getting merrier!): Definitive Arms (ARFCOM Business Member) complete-build Saiga .223 with their proprietary AR mag well with LRBHO.

(Disclaimer: this thread started as my PERSONAL review of Definitive Arms conversion).

(I know, my picture-taking skills sucks, but superior quality cannot be distorted and is shining through).
Major upgrades will follow soon, but the CORE (PG conversion, LRBHO AR mag well adapter, barrel threading) is strong and beautifully executed.
Leatherwood 1-4x CMT red dot is eagerly awaiting MI AK 30 mm scope mount's arrival.
Product line site: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_2_531/224725_Definitive_Arms_AK_conversions__Last_Round_Bolt_Hold_Open_using_AR15_Magazines.html
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
[/span]

http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b537/SgtRaven/AKAR-DA_5s_zpsb240bd34.jpg

http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b537/SgtRaven/AKAR-DA_3s_zps421f7e88.jpg

http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b537/SgtRaven/AKAR-DA_2s_zps1bfd15ce.jpg
SgtRaven
Offline
Posts: 30
Feedback: 0% (0)
Link To This Post
Posted: 12/23/2012 9:50:28 AM EST
[Last Edit: 12/23/2012 9:56:29 AM EST by SgtRaven]
Bounce19712
Offline
Posts: 416
Feedback: 100% (1)
Link To This Post
Posted: 12/23/2012 9:56:21 AM EST
looks good. bird cage looks good, magwell looks cool. original foregrip looks good. pass for this Saiga.
mrbullets
Offline
Posts: 1684
Feedback: 100% (13)
Link To This Post
Posted: 12/24/2012 2:01:58 PM EST
Sweet ! Nice work.
HWI
Military
Offline
Posts: 943
Feedback: 100% (3)
Link To This Post
Posted: 12/24/2012 6:07:48 PM EST
Any chance you could take pic a of the mag well from the top and bottom?
SgtRaven
Offline
Posts: 32
Feedback: 0% (0)
Link To This Post
Posted: 12/26/2012 3:11:15 PM EST
[Last Edit: 12/26/2012 3:18:30 PM EST by SgtRaven]
Originally Posted By HWI:
Any chance you could take pic a of the mag well from the top and bottom?


I am not in technical photography (that's obvious), so here is a bottom-side reference picture.

http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b537/SgtRaven/DSC_0349_zps3352b44c.jpg

Speaking of top, let me check with Definitive Arms, since their pictures are superior to my skill-less snapping.

MAC (Member here) snapped preliminary video (credits: Military Arms Channel); hope that helps:

http://youtu.be/X02C1fRAPM4
HWI
Military
Offline
Posts: 950
Feedback: 100% (3)
Link To This Post
Posted: 12/26/2012 8:49:33 PM EST
I am really just looking to see how the front trunion looks, since they cut some of that out.
SgtRaven
Offline
Posts: 33
Feedback: 0% (0)
Link To This Post
Posted: 12/27/2012 10:32:07 AM EST
With added Fuglystick handguard (custom pattern) and Harris bipod.

http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b537/SgtRaven/DSC_0352s_zps4a6e611b.jpg
TrenchArtisan
Offline
Posts: 4
Feedback: 0% (0)
Link To This Post
Posted: 12/28/2012 11:35:26 AM EST
Originally Posted By SgtRaven:
With added Fuglystick handguard (custom pattern) and Harris bipod.

http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b537/SgtRaven/DSC_0352s_zps4a6e611b.jpg


Neat little space gun you got there.
Say, the Fugly Stick handguards are news to me.
I read on their website (Google is my friend afterall) that they currently only make handguards for the Saiga shotguns and that they are "working on" handguards for the rifles.

Did you have to modify this handguard at all to fit your rifle?

Thanks in advance.
SgtRaven
Offline
Posts: 37
Feedback: 0% (0)
Link To This Post
Posted: 12/28/2012 12:03:37 PM EST
Originally Posted By TrenchArtisan:
Originally Posted By SgtRaven:
With added Fuglystick handguard (custom pattern) and Harris bipod.

http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b537/SgtRaven/DSC_0352s_zps4a6e611b.jpg


Neat little space gun you got there.
Say, the Fugly Stick handguards are news to me.
I read on their website (Google is my friend afterall) that they currently only make handguards for the Saiga shotguns and that they are "working on" handguards for the rifles.

Did you have to modify this handguard at all to fit your rifle?

Thanks in advance.


No, it fits like a glove on .223, 5.45 and so the 7.62 Saigas.
I just checked the site and it appears it's the same as it was when I've got mine.
E-mail Fuglystick to fuglystick@hotmail.com .

Installation is a breeze and fit is perfect.
You need to replace Saiga's HG's front cross pin and install Fuglystick's retainer plate, securing it with provided longer pin.
Handguard then slides over and being inserted snugly into the receiver, securing it at the same location as Saiga OEM HG.
Front of new handguard is secured to pinned retainer plate with 2 hex shoulder bolts (provided).
Detailed instructions and all hardware comes with handguard.

I can send you close-up pictures of handguard's bottom, if you wish.
mongolikebeans
Offline
Posts: 175
Feedback: 0% (0)
Link To This Post
Posted: 12/28/2012 7:42:58 PM EST
How does it run?
SgtRaven
Offline
Posts: 38
Feedback: 0% (0)
Link To This Post
Posted: 12/29/2012 4:42:23 AM EST
[Last Edit: 12/29/2012 4:50:09 AM EST by SgtRaven]
Originally Posted By mongolikebeans:
How does it run?


Love it!
Will post Range video soon; but here is LRBHO on empty mag:


[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbAfJRpUoz4[/youtube]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbAfJRpUoz4

Mag and bolt release controls placed in the most logical locations.
Mag well is nicely beveled and mag swap is a breeze.

The bullet guide is an eye-opener; never seen anything like that on AK, but again, this is an AR-ized AK.
Best of AR functionality in AK platform.

(Note to Definitive Arms and others: now design the receiver for hinged breakdown , floating hand guard and rigid integrated dust cover with flat top SIG556-style and take my money).
Definitive-ArmsLLC
Member
Offline
Posts: 232
Feedback: 100% (7)
Link To This Post
Posted: 12/29/2012 6:06:33 AM EST
Originally Posted By SgtRaven:
Originally Posted By mongolikebeans:
How does it run?


Love it!
Will post Range video soon; but here is LRBHO on empty mag:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbAfJRpUoz4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbAfJRpUoz4

Mag and bolt release controls placed in the most logical locations.
Mag well is nicely beveled and mag swap is a breeze.

The bullet guide is an eye-opener; never seen anything like that on AK, but again, this is an AR-ized AK.
Best of AR functionality in AK platform.

(Note to Definitive Arms and others: now design the receiver for hinged breakdown , floating hand guard and rigid integrated dust cover with flat top SIG556-style and take my money).


2 out of 3 of those are already being worked on.
Currently on the back burner, but being worked on none the less.
SgtRaven
Offline
Posts: 39
Feedback: 0% (0)
Link To This Post
Posted: 12/29/2012 7:13:24 AM EST
[Last Edit: 12/29/2012 7:13:57 AM EST by SgtRaven]
Originally Posted By Definitive-ArmsLLC:
Originally Posted By SgtRaven:
Originally Posted By mongolikebeans:
How does it run?


Love it!
Will post Range video soon; but here is LRBHO on empty mag:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbAfJRpUoz4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbAfJRpUoz4

Mag and bolt release controls placed in the most logical locations.
Mag well is nicely beveled and mag swap is a breeze.

The bullet guide is an eye-opener; never seen anything like that on AK, but again, this is an AR-ized AK.
Best of AR functionality in AK platform.

(Note to Definitive Arms and others: now design the receiver for hinged breakdown , floating hand guard and rigid integrated dust cover with flat top SIG556-style and take my money).


2 out of 3 of those are already being worked on.
Currently on the back burner, but being worked on none the less.


So TAKE MY MONEY, DANG IT!!!
RSVP for S/N 001.
And if not, I will register as ...Democrat.

(Eh-h, NO, sorry... but RSVP'd anyway).


SgtRaven
Offline
Posts: 44
Feedback: 0% (0)
Link To This Post
Posted: 1/6/2013 7:06:11 AM EST
[Last Edit: 1/6/2013 10:42:42 AM EST by SgtRaven]
Definitive-ArmsLLC
Member
Offline
Posts: 233
Feedback: 100% (7)
Link To This Post
Posted: 1/6/2013 7:16:32 AM EST
I totally dig it.

Have you gotten a chance to shoot it from a bench with your new optic?
I'm curious as to the accuracy you can achieve with it.


I was making hits on a plate at 300yds with Irons the other day though!
Not bad for factory Saiga Sights.

The 200 and the 100 were a breeze.
So making successful hits to 300 is more then I could ask for with this rifle using open sights.
packinheavy
31P3
Military
Offline
Posts: 19782
Feedback: 100% (41)
Link To This Post
Posted: 1/6/2013 7:18:30 AM EST
I am on the waiting list.

OVERKILL GOOD!

Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

Remember it's just the internet. If you take it too seriously, we will make fun of you.
Definitive-ArmsLLC
Member
Offline
Posts: 234
Feedback: 100% (7)
Link To This Post
Posted: 1/6/2013 7:22:59 AM EST
Originally Posted By packinheavy:
I am on the waiting list.



Hmmm...
I wonder where you're at on the list.

Just finished up more complete rifles, and some more orders will be shipping out this week.
packinheavy
31P3
Military
Offline
Posts: 19783
Feedback: 100% (41)
Link To This Post
Posted: 1/6/2013 7:53:42 AM EST
Originally Posted By Definitive-ArmsLLC:
Originally Posted By packinheavy:
I am on the waiting list.



Hmmm...
I wonder where you're at on the list.

Just finished up more complete rifles, and some more orders will be shipping out this week.


I am a patient man. You only got me on the list last week.

I can wait a while for something this good. I am also going to have you guys thread my barrel as well.

Probably a dumb question, but does it matter that my Saiga does not have receiver dimples?
OVERKILL GOOD!

Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

Remember it's just the internet. If you take it too seriously, we will make fun of you.
Definitive-ArmsLLC
Member
Offline
Posts: 236
Feedback: 100% (7)
Link To This Post
Posted: 1/6/2013 8:08:35 AM EST
Originally Posted By packinheavy:
Originally Posted By Definitive-ArmsLLC:
Originally Posted By packinheavy:
I am on the waiting list.



Hmmm...
I wonder where you're at on the list.

Just finished up more complete rifles, and some more orders will be shipping out this week.


I am a patient man. You only got me on the list last week.

I can wait a while for something this good. I am also going to have you guys thread my barrel as well.

Probably a dumb question, but does it matter that my Saiga does not have receiver dimples?


Not a problem at all.
In fact prototype number 1 had no dimples.
packinheavy
31P3
Military
Offline
Posts: 19784
Feedback: 100% (41)
Link To This Post
Posted: 1/6/2013 1:23:26 PM EST
Originally Posted By Definitive-ArmsLLC:
Originally Posted By packinheavy:
Originally Posted By Definitive-ArmsLLC:
Originally Posted By packinheavy:
I am on the waiting list.



Hmmm...
I wonder where you're at on the list.

Just finished up more complete rifles, and some more orders will be shipping out this week.


I am a patient man. You only got me on the list last week.

I can wait a while for something this good. I am also going to have you guys thread my barrel as well.

Probably a dumb question, but does it matter that my Saiga does not have receiver dimples?


Not a problem at all.
In fact prototype number 1 had no dimples.


Great

Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile
OVERKILL GOOD!

Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

Remember it's just the internet. If you take it too seriously, we will make fun of you.
Vance308
Offline
Posts: 40
Feedback: 0% (0)
Link To This Post
Posted: 1/8/2013 9:58:08 AM EST
I just wanted to thank Definitive Arms for bringing this product to the market. There have been other attempts at doing something similer but Definitive has really put it all together to make an awesome product.
Definitive-ArmsLLC
Member
Offline
Posts: 256
Feedback: 100% (7)
Link To This Post
Posted: 1/8/2013 10:53:24 AM EST
Originally Posted By Vance308:
I just wanted to thank Definitive Arms for bringing this product to the market. There have been other attempts at doing something similer but Definitive has really put it all together to make an awesome product.


Definitive Arms thanks all of you for your support of our company.

Been receiving lots of Emails with people being very supportive.

We're especially thankful for the patience shown by the majority of our potential customers.
Lots of orders coming in, and we are trying to get rifles out the door in a timely manner.
SgtRaven
Offline
Posts: 51
Feedback: 0% (0)
Link To This Post
Posted: 1/12/2013 1:39:22 AM EST
[Last Edit: 1/12/2013 6:42:10 AM EST by SgtRaven]
Stand by for more pictures and video, including range time.

This babe works like a champ and feeds each and every type of ammo thrown at it with not a hiccup!
Speaking of mags: not a single issue, from pristine PMAGs (Gen 2 and 3) to new and well worn (i.e. beat-the-hell-out-of) USGIs, C-Products and some weird (Korean-made?) thin-wall featherweight thing, which I was afraid to handle with more than two fingers.

I love it!
(And at the time of today's hysteria and gun buying frenzy, it is PRICELESS).

(Just in case: MY RIFLE IS NOT FOR SALE).


Definitive-ArmsLLC
Member
Offline
Posts: 273
Feedback: 100% (7)
Link To This Post
Posted: 1/12/2013 4:52:41 AM EST
I'd love to see any groups you may have shot with it.

I'm curious as to what kind of accuracy you get utilizing your optic set up.
SgtRaven
Offline
Posts: 57
Feedback: 0% (0)
Link To This Post
Posted: 1/19/2013 3:18:54 AM EST
[Last Edit: 1/19/2013 4:39:24 AM EST by SgtRaven]
I owe the range report, still. Would be helpful to remember bringing the targets back, but I guess after all those hard landings and poorly executed PLFs, CRS is taking its toll (JK).
I didn't measure the spread, but I am VERY HAPPY with it, being on par with accuracy with my 5.45x39.

In a mean time, my buddy spooned me with few USGIs in the middle of mag sweeping craze, and shipped them inside the "specialty" packaging (see below).
Just in case, I cleaned them with sanitary wipes prior to use (JK).
I thought it was hilarious.
Oh Lord, didn't I give him a lot of grief about...


  Previous Page
Page:  / 4
AK-47 » Russian