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Posted: 8/7/2016 6:06:29 PM EDT
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Just cuz they're not "US marked" doesn't mean they're not "US made". There is no requirement that the parts be marked "Made in USA", just that they were in fact made in the USA.
The usual US parts on a SAR are pistol grip, gas piston, trigger, disconnector, and hammer. |
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Posted: 8/7/2016 6:17:50 PM EDT
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It's hard for me to convince him that without some evidence of the required number of US parts in his rifle that if he is involved in some kind of a traffic stop sometime and it is discovered that he has the"evil" AK in his car that he is not going to get it confiscated. He is even afrsid to put an original Bakelite grip on instead of the stupid CAI black one that that will make in noncompliance. What is to say that the red grip was not made here and who does he make that argument to. Crazy!!!!
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Posted: 8/7/2016 8:55:58 PM EDT
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If he's that paranoid, I guess he can buy new, US-made parts with "US" on them to replace the ones he suspects. Or just get a vibrapen and put "US" on the parts he wants to feel more comfortable about. Or write to Century and ask for a letter documenting his US parts.
It's seems pretty silly to me. |
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Posted: 8/7/2016 11:02:01 PM EDT
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Didn't the SARs come already minus the threaded muzzle and no bayo lug making them already compliant?
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Posted: 8/7/2016 11:40:06 PM EDT
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Didn't the SARs come already minus the threaded muzzle and no bayo lug making them already compliant? Yes |
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Posted: 8/7/2016 11:53:48 PM EDT
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Didn't the SARs come already minus the threaded muzzle and no bayo lug making them already compliant? No threading or lug were just part of the 922(r) compliance game - by themselves they did not result in 922(r)-compliant firearms. US parts were necessary to reconfigure them into non-lame configurations once inside the US. |
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Posted: 8/8/2016 12:10:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No threading or lug were just part of the 922(r) compliance game - by themselves they did not result in 922(r)-compliant firearms. US parts were necessary to reconfigure them into non-lame configurations once inside the US. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Didn't the SARs come already minus the threaded muzzle and no bayo lug making them already compliant? No threading or lug were just part of the 922(r) compliance game - by themselves they did not result in 922(r)-compliant firearms. US parts were necessary to reconfigure them into non-lame configurations once inside the US. |
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Posted: 8/8/2016 12:30:14 AM EDT
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So....they shipped them into the US non-compliant? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Didn't the SARs come already minus the threaded muzzle and no bayo lug making them already compliant? No threading or lug were just part of the 922(r) compliance game - by themselves they did not result in 922(r)-compliant firearms. US parts were necessary to reconfigure them into non-lame configurations once inside the US. They were compliant when they were brought in. Either this involved bringing them in as thumbholed single-stacks and converting them, with US parts, once they were in the US, or they shipped over the US compliance parts and had them assembled as such before they were brought over. I've heard Century's done it a couple of different ways over the decades. |
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Posted: 8/8/2016 2:04:43 PM EDT
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Whatever was done by CAI over there or over here was done with parts that are not marked USA or otherwise recognizable by anyone other than some expert somewhere.
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Posted: 8/11/2016 9:02:03 PM EDT
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Go buy a Tapco g2 trigger, enough parts in that to make it compliant if you are worried about it.
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Posted: 8/12/2016 12:51:13 AM EDT
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Anyone have a single example of someone being prosecuted for 922(r)?
Serious question because I can't find one... |
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Posted: 9/7/2016 4:49:54 PM EDT
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It's hard for me to convince him that without some evidence of the required number of US parts in his rifle that if he is involved in some kind of a traffic stop sometime and it is discovered that he has the"evil" AK in his car that he is not going to get it confiscated. He is even afrsid to put an original Bakelite grip on instead of the stupid CAI black one that that will make in noncompliance. What is to say that the red grip was not made here and who does he make that argument to. Crazy!!!! A couple of things... 1) Unless he is pulled over by the ATF he doesn't need to worry about it as 922r is an ATF rule and is not enforced by local law enforcement... 2) If the parts have a "C" on them this indicates they are US parts... |
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Posted: 9/7/2016 9:56:15 PM EDT
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A couple of things... 1) Unless he is pulled over by the ATF he doesn't need to worry about it as 922r is an ATF rule and is not enforced by local law enforcement... 2) If the parts have a "C" on them this indicates they are US parts... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's hard for me to convince him that without some evidence of the required number of US parts in his rifle that if he is involved in some kind of a traffic stop sometime and it is discovered that he has the"evil" AK in his car that he is not going to get it confiscated. He is even afrsid to put an original Bakelite grip on instead of the stupid CAI black one that that will make in noncompliance. What is to say that the red grip was not made here and who does he make that argument to. Crazy!!!! A couple of things... 1) Unless he is pulled over by the ATF he doesn't need to worry about it as 922r is an ATF rule and is not enforced by local law enforcement... 2) If the parts have a "C" on them this indicates they are US parts... The "C" is for Century. USA made parts (Fire Control Group, Piston, Pistol Grip for 922r |
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Posted: 10/5/2016 9:02:25 AM EDT
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No one cares about 922r except for they guys that sell conversion parts. It's like the law about tearing the tags off your mattress. With that said my SAR1 is the same way.
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Posted: 10/14/2016 2:45:40 PM EDT
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No one cares about 922r except for they guys that sell conversion parts. It's like the law about tearing the tags off your mattress. With that said my SAR1 is the same way. This is what I'm beginning to believe who's to say that my furniture was made in Romania or the U.S.? Even if by some 1 in 10,000 chance the ATF comes and hassles me chances are I'll be being charged with something much worse. The cops don't know anything about 922r and I'm willing to bet the ones that do are gun guys too and don't give a rat's rear about compliance. |
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Posted: 11/19/2016 11:53:39 AM EDT
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No one cares about 922r except for they guys that sell conversion parts. It's like the law about tearing the tags off your mattress. With that said my SAR1 is the same way. Read 922r then read it a couple more times. It's more for importers and manufacturers. It basically says you can't put those parts on. If Joe puts the parts on and sells it to Paul, Paul did not violate 922r, Joe did. No one, to my knowledge, has ever been prosecuted for violating it. |
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Posted: 11/29/2016 12:21:54 PM EDT
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As long as he doesn't drill the evil third hole in it, he's fine.
It was compliant before it shipped to the US or right after it arrived in the US Otherwise it wouldn't have been sold, as the importer has a ton of requirements to meet before that can happen. Tell him to shoot it and enjoy it. The SAR-1 is one of the best AK types out there IMHO. |
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