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Posted: 6/25/2017 5:04:02 AM EDT
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1st AK. Seems nowhere to be found. Kinda.. Arsenal discontinued them this year I believe. The only place you'll find them is on the second market. Kvar said they will be back but don't know when tho. Arsenal 107 series of rifles haven't for sale for almost 2 years now. So who know when the 104's are coming back. |
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Posted: 6/25/2017 6:03:36 AM EDT
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Anything else worth looking at in 5.45?
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Posted: 6/25/2017 11:25:15 AM EDT
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Lee Armory has an AK74 that did well in the AK Operators Union 5000 round challenge.
http://www.leearmory.com/product/bulgarian-ak74/ |
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Posted: 6/25/2017 4:15:35 PM EDT
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If you really want one just go to gunbroker.
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Posted: 6/25/2017 8:09:15 PM EDT
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They pop up for sale all the time on the EE, just be patient.
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Posted: 6/26/2017 12:48:40 AM EDT
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They pop up for sale all the time on the EE, just be patient. |
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Posted: 6/26/2017 8:26:22 AM EDT
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yes with all the scared talk going on, I'm sure you'll find one sooner rather than later.
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Posted: 6/27/2017 12:51:25 PM EDT
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Posts like this make me happy that I snagged one before deploying back in '15.
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Posted: 7/6/2017 11:57:00 PM EDT
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Id really love to see a SLR104R get released soon.
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Posted: 7/7/2017 6:06:07 PM EDT
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Id really love to see a SLR104R get released soon. |
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Posted: 7/7/2017 9:12:04 PM EDT
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With VEPR's being banned, I have a feeling KVAR will bring back the SLR 104 sooner than expected. There's too much money to be made not to. They're all owned by FIME group, so when they discontinued the SLR 104 they were probably expecting to sell a crapload of VEPR's in 5.45. Now that option is out the window the market is starving for 5.45 rifles. They'd be crazy not to do whatever they can to take advantage of the situation.
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Posted: 7/8/2017 10:10:17 AM EDT
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Sold my first after the 7n6 ban. Just recently got back into them. Bought one off gunbroker just a few weeks before they announced they had stopped production. Nornally I do not have this kind of luck.....love the thing.
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Posted: 7/8/2017 10:40:06 PM EDT
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With VEPR's being banned, I have a feeling KVAR will bring back the SLR 104 sooner than expected. There's too much money to be made not to. They're all owned by FIME group, so when they discontinued the SLR 104 they were probably expecting to sell a crapload of VEPR's in 5.45. Now that option is out the window the market is starving for 5.45 rifles. They'd be crazy not to do whatever they can to take advantage of the situation. |
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Posted: 7/12/2017 6:37:57 AM EDT
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^^^ That is extrimely optimistic view on K-var/Fime. Company with horrible customer support, promisees and never been released firearms, most firearms and parts are out of stock, etc. Anyway, with Verp is under ban I see no future of 5.45x39 rifles in US.
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Posted: 7/12/2017 6:04:33 PM EDT
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^^^ That is extrimely optimistic view on K-var/Fime. Company with horrible customer support, promisees and never been released firearms, most firearms and parts are out of stock, etc. Anyway, with Verp is under ban I see no future of 5.45x39 rifles in US. |
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Posted: 7/12/2017 6:18:59 PM EDT
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Id really love to see a SLR104R get released soon. |
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Posted: 7/13/2017 1:46:23 PM EDT
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I agree but keep in mind the main issue is the production scheduling with military contracts. Not because they do not think it's profitable. It's entirely possible governments pay more than american consumers when they have free tax dollars at their disposal KVAR/FIME is always crowing about discontinuing guns or parts and then "finding" the "discontinued" guns or parts in it's warehouse. Much if not most of this is marketing hysteria/hype. Arsenal Bulgaria provides mostly milled AK's for it's military contracts. If you look at their website the don't even list stamped or 5.45 guns http://www.arsenal-bg.com/c/assault-rifles-24 Military production is a part of the scarcity but not all of it. KVAR/Arsenal USA like to do the guns in cycles to keep demand high. While I am fine paying $1100 for an SLR-104 it is an artificially high price. And don't kid yourself. Governments pay WAY WAY WAY WAY less than American consumers. |
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Posted: 7/13/2017 5:25:33 PM EDT
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what about all the ones that are already here ? Have any idea how many have been imported ? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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^^^ That is extrimely optimistic view on K-var/Fime. Company with horrible customer support, promisees and never been released firearms, most firearms and parts are out of stock, etc. Anyway, with Verp is under ban I see no future of 5.45x39 rifles in US. |
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Posted: 7/13/2017 8:28:37 PM EDT
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And don't kid yourself. Governments pay WAY WAY WAY WAY less than American consumers. I'm not sure if I buy the Kvar "finding" the "discontinued" guns or parts in it's warehouse story that keeps going around. Pretending to be out of rifle, then finding 10 of them a year later and selling them for $100 more than the previous price is a lot of effort for an additional $2000 in profit. It's possible but not a good marketing practice. They come in cycles most likely because the factory builds them in cycles. It's a lot of effort to change tooling/presses from one item to another that most large batch manufacturing facilities make items in large batches. It's unlikely they are tooled up to manufacture all calibers/types of rifles all at once. The last time the SLR104FR was in stock, it sold for the same price that it sold for 4 years ago when they first came out. No price increase in 4 years. And the SLR107FR cost about $700 when they first came out 10 or so years ago. The last time they were in stock, Kvar sold them for $999. That's really not much of an increase over 10 years. Compare that price increase to cars, food or houses. |
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Posted: 7/15/2017 1:32:58 AM EDT
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Found a new one, got one off EE (like new!).
One to show and one to fo! On to ammo and optics  I have no idea what I'm doing except I'm doing it right so far, I hope....
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Posted: 7/15/2017 9:36:58 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/15/2017 11:56:04 AM EDT
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On to ammo and optics I have no idea what I'm doing except I'm doing it right so far, I hope.... |
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Posted: 7/16/2017 3:37:47 AM EDT
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Not every rifle needs an optic. Does nobody use irons anymore? |
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Posted: 7/16/2017 8:04:35 AM EDT
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Not every rifle needs an optic. Does nobody use irons anymore? |
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Posted: 7/17/2017 7:21:26 PM EDT
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Good choice, I think you will be happy tracking one down. I put a trijicon "low mount" ta50 acog on a rs mount on mine. Low recoiling, awesome rifle. The only thing I dislike about it is the fact that the stock folds over the optic mount...
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Posted: 7/18/2017 10:27:58 PM EDT
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Does it still fold???
Looking for one that does without removing the mount/scope. Thinking to use a Vortex pst. Suggestions welcome ETA: Vortex Sparc AR on unimax gas rail not so nice - sits too high, no co-witness of any type. Old eyes need help, this gun can do better than the shooter. Want to even the playing field as much as I can while still keeping it compact (folded in small case and not cheek (sp?) welding) |
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