User Panel
User Panel
User Panel
|
Posted: 5/17/2017 7:09:37 PM EDT
[#1]
Karen's custom of you want to spend 2500.....I like my Bulgarian Arsenal.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 5/17/2017 7:10:08 PM EDT
[#2]
Whoops....Krebs custom.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 5/17/2017 8:41:29 PM EDT
[#3]
SAM7R
107 |
|
|
|
Posted: 5/17/2017 11:17:52 PM EDT
[#4]
If you can find one, SLR-107FR
|
|
|
|
Posted: 5/17/2017 11:34:44 PM EDT
[#5]
Im going to have to say the milled SAM7
Have had several 107 models CR,FR,UR and the milled offering is just better quality over the stamped models imo |
|
|
|
Posted: 5/18/2017 11:01:00 AM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Im going to have to say the milled SAM7 Have had several 107 models CR,FR,UR and the milled offering is just better quality over the stamped models imo 5.45 and 5.56 I generally prefer stamped. SLR-104 is my Favorite AK. |
|
|
|
Posted: 5/18/2017 11:13:32 AM EDT
[#7]
Valmet Rk62 
|
|
|
|
Posted: 5/18/2017 11:18:40 AM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryValmets are awesome no doubt, but they haven't been available for |
|
|
|
Posted: 5/18/2017 11:38:38 AM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Valmets are awesome no doubt, but they haven't been available for |
|
|
|
Posted: 5/18/2017 5:52:22 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
I would not buy an AK that was made in the USA except for rebuilds of existing Combloc style rifles. Most of them are crap quality. |
|
|
|
Posted: 5/18/2017 7:39:34 PM EDT
[#11]
Arsenal.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 5/18/2017 7:50:53 PM EDT
[#12]
Vepr fm11 is up there
|
|
|
|
Posted: 5/18/2017 9:18:30 PM EDT
[#13]
Polytech Legend..........you know I'm right.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 5/18/2017 9:23:48 PM EDT
[#14]
Hungarian sa85m
|
|
|
|
Posted: 5/18/2017 9:43:21 PM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Polytech Legend..........you know I'm right. I believe he is looking for the common good quality AK that is found fairly easily almost anywhere at a fair price |
|
|
|
Posted: 5/18/2017 11:49:33 PM EDT
[#16]
if that's the case there's really only one option available: bulgarian. We hardly import AKs anymore, the options are REALLY limited if you're talking currently imported. Romy, Yugo, and Bulg are it...no?
|
|
|
|
Posted: 5/19/2017 10:58:09 AM EDT
[#17]
Currently imported? The SLR Series.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 5/19/2017 5:20:29 PM EDT
[#18]
I guess what I'm also kind of asking is which model is the closest to 'standard issue'- for instance, again, using the ar15- the colt le6920 is the 'standard' because it is as close as you can get to whats actually issued, and it's the base model that all m4 variants are based on. Which rifle is close to a solid copy of a military AKM and is considered the 'standard' rifle? I'm guessing one of the arsenals? and yeah the polytech legend is perfect but way too expensive.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 5/19/2017 5:34:45 PM EDT
[#19]
how about an Egyptian Maadi? soviet tooling etc. Should be pretty close to the 'real thing' minus the FA aspects.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 5/19/2017 6:12:46 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
I guess what I'm also kind of asking is which model is the closest to 'standard issue'- for instance, again, using the ar15- the colt le6920 is the 'standard' because it is as close as you can get to whats actually issued, and it's the base model that all m4 variants are based on. Which rifle is close to a solid copy of a military AKM and is considered the 'standard' rifle? I'm guessing one of the arsenals? and yeah the polytech legend is perfect but way too expensive. |
|
|
|
Posted: 5/20/2017 12:26:08 AM EDT
[#21]
As far as standard issue or milspec, I feel an AK74M/AKS74 clone like an SGL31 or SLR104 is closest to any kind of actual spec. On face value, they aren't the highest end AK out there (but neither is the 6920) but they are close enough in parts quality and build quality.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 5/20/2017 10:12:07 AM EDT
[#22]
I'd have to say the VEPR FM-AK47-11. A very solid, well made, Russian AK.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 5/20/2017 12:56:08 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
I guess what I'm also kind of asking is which model is the closest to 'standard issue'- for instance, again, using the ar15- the colt le6920 is the 'standard' because it is as close as you can get to whats actually issued, and it's the base model that all m4 variants are based on. Which rifle is close to a solid copy of a military AKM and is considered the 'standard' rifle? I'm guessing one of the arsenals? and yeah the polytech legend is perfect but way too expensive. Made in Bulgaria on Comblock tooling in a Military factory. They are standard AK types and can both use a wide variety of AKM pattern accessories. This is where the VEPR fails your test. VEPRs are like Piston ARs, they don't use standard parts and are heavier, but some people believe they are better than milspec. |
|
|
|
Posted: 5/20/2017 1:57:17 PM EDT
[#24]
Arsenal
I have a few and all are issue free,my lack of $$ are the only thing keeping me from buying more |
|
|
|
Posted: 5/20/2017 2:51:10 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
how about an Egyptian Maadi? soviet tooling etc. Should be pretty close to the 'real thing' minus the FA aspects. |
|
|
|
Posted: 5/20/2017 7:21:50 PM EDT
[#26]
I would normally say the Arsenal SAM7 SF because it's my favorite, I also have some SGL21's and 31's.
But lately I've been into fixing up the WASR's and making them tacticool. So I can't really have an opinion anymore. Before and After:  Attached File |
|
|
|
Posted: 5/20/2017 8:16:44 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted:Maadis are nice if you just want as close to a classic AKM as you can get but Chinese, Bulgarian, Hungarian, Finnish, even Russian guns are all much nicer quality wise. |
|
|
|
Posted: 5/20/2017 8:31:28 PM EDT
[#28]
A solid and reliable AK with as many Combloc parts no matter the brand.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 5/20/2017 8:36:21 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
If you can find one, SLR-107FR |
|
|
|
Posted: 5/20/2017 8:43:45 PM EDT
[#30]
Welcome to the dark side where there is no gold standard that can be agreed upon, and if it was made in a communist country its GTG if it was a parts build its GTG, if it was built be anyone else its Meh. There is your scale, the more it cost the lest people will talk crap. No one said we weren't a snobby trailer trash type of group
|
|
|
|
Posted: 5/20/2017 8:55:06 PM EDT
[#31]
Vepr
|
|
|
|
Posted: 5/20/2017 10:41:11 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
In a way, an AK being 'not so nice' on the quality front is more authentic than the pretty-enough-to-satisfy-american-civilian-market guns, right? |
|
|
|
Posted: 5/21/2017 2:49:46 AM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
No, because "AK quality" isn't a glossy paint job, a tacticool plastic stock, or wood that has been dipped in poly until it shines. AK quality relates to the durability of the rifle's component parts, and how well those parts have been assembled. The AK action cycles in a "most vigorous" manner. If the action parts are made of poor quality steel which has not been hardened, the rifle will self-destruct just from repeated firing. So, a "shiny" rifle is not required, a durable and reliable one is. |
|
|
|
Posted: 5/21/2017 10:52:31 AM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
I would normally say the Arsenal SAM7 SF because it's my favorite, I also have some SGL21's and 31's. But lately I've been into fixing up the WASR's and making them tacticool. So I can't really have an opinion anymore. Before and After: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/266387/IMG-2758-212737.JPG 
I heard the Romanian AK including the wasr are made with soviet machinery as well. |
|
|
|
Posted: 5/21/2017 1:00:18 PM EDT
[#35]
Century Arms RAS-47. Born overseas. Perfected in America.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 5/21/2017 1:36:00 PM EDT
[#36]
rifle dynamics 500?
https://rifledynamics.com/pages/rifle-dynamics-500-series-rifles-br-5-45x39 |
|
|
|
Posted: 5/21/2017 3:53:38 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
rifle dynamics 500? https://rifledynamics.com/pages/rifle-dynamics-500-series-rifles-br-5-45x39 |
|
|
|
Posted: 5/21/2017 4:03:06 PM EDT
[#38]
whats wrong with it?
|
|
|
|
Posted: 5/21/2017 4:35:53 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
You know you like the WASR. Thats why you can't have an opinion anymore
I heard the Romanian AK including the wasr are made with soviet machinery as well. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
I would normally say the Arsenal SAM7 SF because it's my favorite, I also have some SGL21's and 31's. But lately I've been into fixing up the WASR's and making them tacticool. So I can't really have an opinion anymore. Before and After: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/266387/IMG-2758-212737.JPG
I heard the Romanian AK including the wasr are made with soviet machinery as well. |
|
|
|
Posted: 5/21/2017 6:40:33 PM EDT
[#40]
I see no love for the Galil ACE in this thread. I want one, but I'm waiting for the price to drop.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 5/21/2017 7:11:52 PM EDT
[#41]
Get a WASR 10.
With the money you save by not buying an arsenal, buy some com block surplus furniture for it (if it didn't come with them) and the rest of the saved money purchase mags and ammo. You will be way out ahead. |
|
|
|
Posted: 5/27/2017 9:09:37 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Polytech Legend..........you know I'm right. There is a supply of new-in-the-box examples out there to be had.. if you can stomach the price. Once you go Chinese you never go back 
|
|
|
|
Posted: 5/28/2017 7:43:04 AM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
whats wrong with it? , you could buy the parts and send it to (IMO) way better builders for cheaper. or get a 107fr for $800-$900 less.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 5/28/2017 2:48:29 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
BOOM! ... mic drop There is a supply of new-in-the-box examples out there to be had.. if you can stomach the price. Once you go Chinese you never go back I know the Chinese AK supposedly has a good reputation and is collectable, but its still made in China, therefore I have never had the slightest urge to buy one. |
|
|
|
Posted: 5/29/2017 6:58:37 AM EDT
[#45]
I dunno why. The fastest way to defeat communism in China at this point is to support capitalism there. Some junk is made in China, but they also make high end consumer electronics and they put a man in space, so it's not like they are incapable of building nice things.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 5/29/2017 9:22:40 AM EDT
[#46]
I just wish there were more AK offerings out there that used forged receivers with chromed bolt assemblies...
|
|
|
|
Posted: 5/29/2017 9:57:28 AM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
I just wish there were more AK offerings out there that used forged receivers with chromed bolt assemblies... |
|
|
|
Posted: 5/29/2017 10:02:56 AM EDT
[#48]
Duh |
|
|
|
Posted: 5/29/2017 11:11:28 AM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
No country used chrome bolts and/or carriers. Unless you mean you wish US manufacturers offered this. Best Ak-type firearm I've ever handled was a Yugoslavian semi-auto with a milled receiver & chromed bolt assembly. That thing was freaky-accurate for an AK-type rifle., and yeah - I wish the US made one like it. |
|
|
|
Posted: 5/29/2017 11:16:16 AM EDT
[#50]
I would say that in today's market the rifles that are considered the "best" are going to be either those from Arsenal or VEPR. However, I have a bakers dozen AK's and the cheapest (WASR) shoots about the same as the most expensive (Valmet M62). So the real difference is not going to be in performance, but rather in fit and finish. I will say that I prefer milled receivers to stamped, so if I was buying a new AK today, I would probably go for one of the SAM7 variants.
But, I don't buy new guns except on rare occasions. If I was looking for a single AK that was going to last me for the rest of my life, I would keep an eye out on the used market and would consider any of the following in no particular order: Saiga Chinese-any pre ban. Also post ban milled MAK90's and straight cut MAK90 stamped receivers. WASR Arsenal VEPR. Yugo OPAP The issue with Yugo and VEPR rifles using propitiatory furniture is not an issue for me as I don't pimp out my guns with a bunch of tackicool junk. |
|
|
Win a FREE Membership!
Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. One new winner* is announced every week!
You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers.
AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types.
From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm.
Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more.
Copyright © 1996-2024 AR15.COM LLC. All Rights Reserved.
Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited.
AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own.
