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Posted: 9/23/2016 8:34:20 PM EDT
Just received this flyer from K-Var, looks like a factory converted VEPR; is it likely that they're being imported as VEPRs and converted?
FM-AK47-11 Now available for pre-order! FM-AK47-11 - Priced at $999.99! Built on the same standard as the RPK style machine guns, Vepr is 50% more reinforced than a standard, stamped AK rifle. Each rifle has been manufactured using state of the art technology, effectively creating a heavier duty piece that will last through not just a lifetime but for many generations to come. The RPK-style barrels are hammer forged and chrome lined using techniques that make them four to five times stronger than a standard AK barrel, which makes them with substantially extended service life over other types of assemblies. Vepr AK rifle in 7.62x39mm caliber, 16.5-in barrel, stamped receiver, chrome lined hammer forged barrel, removable muzzle nut with 14x1mm left-hand threads, 1000 meter sight leaf with adjustable windage, Cleaning Kit and Cleaning Rod, black polymer furniture, Warsaw length buttstock with hidden compartment for cleaning kit, shipped with one 5-rd magazine, 922(r) compliant with US or foreign made magazines. Features: For the first time ever true factory Molot AK-47 style rifle in the US market Heavy RPK-style hammer forged chrome lined barrel RPK-style 1.5mm stamped receiver RPK-style trunnion block RPK-style ribbed polymer handguards with stainless steel heat shield Polymer original Warsaw length buttstock with cleaning kit trap door Windage adjustable 1000m rear sight leaf Scope mount side rail Accepts all mil-spec double-stack AK-47 7.62x39mm magazines 14x1mm left-hand muzzle thread 922r compliant with foreign made magazines |
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Posted: 9/23/2016 8:50:13 PM EDT
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Dammit! I just put in an order for a Arsenal SAM7R-61.
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Posted: 9/23/2016 9:45:12 PM EDT
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Make it with an RPK barrel and I'm in, otherwise... meh.
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Posted: 9/23/2016 10:07:19 PM EDT
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A 5.45 version of this needs to happen
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Posted: 9/24/2016 12:05:11 AM EDT
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I'm happy to see these don't have that damn slant cut receiver. Looks promising.
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Posted: 9/24/2016 1:31:22 AM EDT
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If these are real VEPRs Im getting one.
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Posted: 9/24/2016 2:44:13 AM EDT
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A 5.45 version of this needs to happen That was my first thought, too. If they do a 5.45 version at the same price, I'll be down for two of 'em. 
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Posted: 9/24/2016 3:29:51 AM EDT
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Make it with an RPK barrel and I'm in, otherwise... meh. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Make it with an RPK barrel and I'm in, otherwise... meh. Quoted:
A 5.45 version of this needs to happen Agreed |
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Posted: 9/24/2016 4:09:42 PM EDT
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As long as all the important parts are Russian made, I might get one. I almost bought a VEPR a few years ago but didn't want to install the bullet guide... hopefully these have that already. Would look good next to my sweet WASR.
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Posted: 9/24/2016 5:50:09 PM EDT
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Would be almost perfect if it had bayonet/accessory lugs.
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Posted: 9/25/2016 3:22:32 AM EDT
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Make it with an RPK barrel and I'm in, otherwise... meh. That's what took the wind out of my sail. I'm dying for an RPK variant and would have even been happy making one of these into a short barreled RPK... but no. |
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Posted: 9/26/2016 8:04:14 AM EDT
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That's what took the wind out of my sail. I'm dying for an RPK variant and would have even been happy making one of these into a short barreled RPK... but no. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Make it with an RPK barrel and I'm in, otherwise... meh. That's what took the wind out of my sail. I'm dying for an RPK variant and would have even been happy making one of these into a short barreled RPK... but no. yep, saw their teaser email and thought there goes another chunk of money if its a actual RPK. But no. |
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Posted: 10/1/2016 8:07:27 PM EDT
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Why are people disappointed with this rifle? What were they expecting?
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Posted: 10/2/2016 12:41:27 AM EDT
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Why are people disappointed with this rifle? What were they expecting? Something like this: 
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Posted: 10/2/2016 6:53:58 PM EDT
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Why are people disappointed with this rifle? What were they expecting? This. It's a heavy barreled Russian AKM of sorts. Molot produces excellent rifles and it takes AKM furniture. Looks like a solid choice IMO for a good Arsenal alternative. |
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Posted: 10/2/2016 8:28:07 PM EDT
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Why are people disappointed with this rifle? What were they expecting? I think many (including me) were thinking a proper 23" barreled RPK. |
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Posted: 10/2/2016 10:00:01 PM EDT
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I think many (including me) were thinking a proper 23" barreled RPK. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why are people disappointed with this rifle? What were they expecting? I think many (including me) were thinking a proper 23" barreled RPK. Pretty much. I don't have the need, nor the desire for an AKM with a thicker receiver in what is essentially a ban configuration. |
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Posted: 10/3/2016 9:06:27 PM EDT
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Am I wrong... I thought RPK was different furniture than AKM? Which furniture fits this new Kvar rifle? Also is it me or is the barrel on Kvars version different than the profile on my sporterized vepr?
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Posted: 10/4/2016 1:50:29 AM EDT
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how much of this is russian made?? all of these "style" keywords bother me. russian barrel and receiver at least?
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Posted: 10/4/2016 7:39:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Pretty much. I don't have the need, nor the desire for an AKM with a thicker receiver in what is essentially a ban configuration. |
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Posted: 10/4/2016 9:12:19 AM EDT
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Its a huge step in the right direction I think. I prefer the thicker receiver but the ban configuration is a bummer though.
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Posted: 10/5/2016 10:01:57 AM EDT
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Pretty much. I don't have the need, nor the desire for an AKM with a thicker receiver in what is essentially a ban configuration. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why are people disappointed with this rifle? What were they expecting? I think many (including me) were thinking a proper 23" barreled RPK. Pretty much. I don't have the need, nor the desire for an AKM with a thicker receiver in what is essentially a ban configuration. I know nothing about AK's.....what is the "pre-ban" ak that everybody wants or wishes they had gotten? I presume this is a 922(r) issue? |
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Posted: 10/5/2016 2:42:18 PM EDT
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I know nothing about AK's.....what is the "pre-ban" ak that everybody wants or wishes they had gotten? I presume this is a 922(r) issue? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why are people disappointed with this rifle? What were they expecting? I think many (including me) were thinking a proper 23" barreled RPK. Pretty much. I don't have the need, nor the desire for an AKM with a thicker receiver in what is essentially a ban configuration. I know nothing about AK's.....what is the "pre-ban" ak that everybody wants or wishes they had gotten? I presume this is a 922(r) issue? Pre-ban rifles can be sold in ban states and bring a premium. |
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Posted: 10/5/2016 3:17:00 PM EDT
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Pre-ban rifles can be sold in ban states and bring a premium. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why are people disappointed with this rifle? What were they expecting? I think many (including me) were thinking a proper 23" barreled RPK. Pretty much. I don't have the need, nor the desire for an AKM with a thicker receiver in what is essentially a ban configuration. I know nothing about AK's.....what is the "pre-ban" ak that everybody wants or wishes they had gotten? I presume this is a 922(r) issue? Pre-ban rifles can be sold in ban states and bring a premium. You guys call this gun a "ban configuration" gun....what makes it such? |
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Posted: 10/5/2016 4:11:46 PM EDT
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You guys call this gun a "ban configuration" gun....what makes it such? 1994 awb no bayonet lug/cleaning rod retainer/ accessory lug |
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Posted: 10/5/2016 5:15:22 PM EDT
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Here are a few pics of this Russian Beauty
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Posted: 10/5/2016 7:51:29 PM EDT
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Here are a few pics of this Russian Beauty http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/images/stories/virtuemart/product/veprakfime%20(19%20of%2024).jpg http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/images/stories/virtuemart/product/veprakfime%20(22%20of%2024).jpg Looks great... But we want RPKs... 
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Posted: 10/6/2016 10:45:34 AM EDT
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The Molot Vepr 01 V with the folding stock looks better.
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Posted: 10/6/2016 4:29:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I agree with this. I think they just took an RPK, cut and threaded the barrel, and move rear site back. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Pretty much. I don't have the need, nor the desire for an AKM with a thicker receiver in what is essentially a ban configuration. |
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Posted: 10/8/2016 4:50:26 PM EDT
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Looks great... But we want RPKs... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Here are a few pics of this Russian Beauty http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/images/stories/virtuemart/product/veprakfime%20(19%20of%2024).jpg http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/images/stories/virtuemart/product/veprakfime%20(22%20of%2024).jpg Looks great... But we want RPKs... Speak for yourself. I have one of the older Robinson RPK rifles and prefer the shorter 16in. barrel for 7.62x39. As far as ban features go, I suppose having both lugs and the cleaning rod would be preferential, but I have progressed to the point where I don't care about superficial things. The threaded barrel, double stack mag well, and pistol grip are things I use and this rifle has them. This looks like a worthwhile variant and I will pick one up if politics don't become asinine. |
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Posted: 10/8/2016 10:01:38 PM EDT
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Picked mine up from the FFL yesterday. It is one solid feeling rifle. Way more balanced than my M72, with the 16" barrel. Nice fit and finish. I don't like the plastic "US" furniture, so I'll be looking for wood replacements soon. I haven't had a chance to get out to the range yet, so I can't comment on how it shoots yet.
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Posted: 10/9/2016 2:22:11 AM EDT
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Kinda cool looking...
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Posted: 10/9/2016 6:39:26 AM EDT
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Picked mine up from the FFL yesterday. It is one solid feeling rifle. Way more balanced than my M72, with the 16" barrel. Nice fit and finish. I don't like the plastic "US" furniture, so I'll be looking for wood replacements soon. I haven't had a chance to get out to the range yet, so I can't comment on how it shoots yet. Can you tell us if standard AKM hand guards would fit; or, if only RPK hand guards do. Also, I take it the the gas block is NOT interchangeable with an AKM gas block? Thanks, Mike |
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Posted: 10/9/2016 8:17:19 AM EDT
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Can you tell us if standard AKM hand guards would fit; or, if only RPK hand guards do. Also, I take it the the gas block is NOT interchangeable with an AKM gas block? Thanks, Mike Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Picked mine up from the FFL yesterday. It is one solid feeling rifle. Way more balanced than my M72, with the 16" barrel. Nice fit and finish. I don't like the plastic "US" furniture, so I'll be looking for wood replacements soon. I haven't had a chance to get out to the range yet, so I can't comment on how it shoots yet. Can you tell us if standard AKM hand guards would fit; or, if only RPK hand guards do. Also, I take it the the gas block is NOT interchangeable with an AKM gas block? Thanks, Mike Standard handguards can work, but I would recommend against it. AKM gas blocks will not work. You need a RPK gas block. |
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Posted: 10/9/2016 8:53:45 AM EDT
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Here are a few pics of the FM 47 11 outfitted with our Red Laminate stock sets , It does require a large amount of fitting and the front loer hand guard retainer is RPK style so normal AK hand guards will have a bit of play in them . I do not think you are going to find that normal stock sets Just Drop In .
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Posted: 10/9/2016 12:56:45 PM EDT
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I would order an RPK stock set from IWD finished in their shellac red if I had one.
The handguards should be pretty close to drop in. http://ironwooddesigns.com/IWDNEWRPK2.html |
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Posted: 10/10/2016 6:07:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That was my first thought, too. If they do a 5.45 version at the same price, I'll be down for two of 'em. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: A 5.45 version of this needs to happen That was my first thought, too. If they do a 5.45 version at the same price, I'll be down for two of 'em. https://www.k-var.com/shop/FM-AK74-11.html |
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Posted: 10/10/2016 6:56:27 PM EDT
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A 5.45 version of this needs to happen That was my first thought, too. If they do a 5.45 version at the same price, I'll be down for two of 'em. https://www.k-var.com/shop/FM-AK74-11.html Yup, just got the pre-order email. |
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Posted: 10/10/2016 9:51:47 PM EDT
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Hmmm
Swap out front end + RPK stockset = ??? 
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Posted: 10/11/2016 1:22:58 AM EDT
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A 5.45 version of this needs to happen That was my first thought, too. If they do a 5.45 version at the same price, I'll be down for two of 'em. https://www.k-var.com/shop/FM-AK74-11.html EXCELLENT! |
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Posted: 10/11/2016 5:45:08 AM EDT
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Hmmm Swap out front end + RPK stockset = ??? http://world.guns.ru/userfiles/images/machine/mg15/rpk_01.jpg That would probably double the cost of the rifle, close to it anyway.
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Posted: 10/11/2016 1:55:34 PM EDT
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That was my first thought, too. If they do a 5.45 version at the same price, I'll be down for two of 'em. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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A 5.45 version of this needs to happen That was my first thought, too. If they do a 5.45 version at the same price, I'll be down for two of 'em. K-Var just sent out the email. 5.45 rifles in the same configuration for the same price. Time to go hog wild |
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Posted: 10/11/2016 2:21:55 PM EDT
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That would probably double the cost of the rifle, close to it anyway. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Hmmm Swap out front end + RPK stockset = ??? http://world.guns.ru/userfiles/images/machine/mg15/rpk_01.jpg That would probably double the cost of the rifle, close to it anyway. Yeah at that point, I'm scouring the EE for an AES-10B... well not me specifically as I already have one.
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Posted: 10/11/2016 5:57:55 PM EDT
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Hmmm Swap out front end + RPK stockset = ??? http://world.guns.ru/userfiles/images/machine/mg15/rpk_01.jpg That would probably double the cost of the rifle, close to it anyway. Yeah at that point, I'm scouring the EE for an AES-10B... well not me specifically as I already have one. I had one. Sold it to fund my SGL31. I kinda miss it but not enough to pay what people want now, or to drop 2K on a Russian VEPR RPK clone. |
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Posted: 10/12/2016 7:54:09 PM EDT
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Gorgeous! I want it just for the squareback, screw the bayonet lug, could dump that side rail too and i'd be happy.
....so when my wife calls and asks you what this must-have Christmas present is that she needed to call you about, you know what to do right? And you totally heard me say I was really going to sell something else this time to defray some of the cost too, and I sounded very serious when I said it.
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Here are a few pics of this Russian Beauty http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/images/stories/virtuemart/product/veprakfime%20(19%20of%2024).jpg http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/images/stories/virtuemart/product/veprakfime%20(22%20of%2024).jpg |
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Posted: 10/15/2016 1:09:46 PM EDT
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Well I went ahead and preordered one from kvar. Hope it was the right choice. Was thinking of a sam7 but went for this one. Hope it will be a fine weapon that will last.
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Posted: 10/15/2016 5:31:42 PM EDT
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I keep going back and forth on these... I cant decide.
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Posted: 10/15/2016 6:25:23 PM EDT
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get both then
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Posted: 10/30/2016 10:05:57 AM EDT
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So what stock set will fit this rifle? Im ok with a little fitting. I dont want an rpk buttstock. Idealy the red wood set shown above, but i want the handguard to fit like it should.
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Posted: 10/30/2016 10:48:28 AM EDT
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Sir, do you know when these will be back in stock? I really want to buy one. I clicked the "email me when product becomes available" button but is there a definite timeframe?
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Posted: 10/30/2016 12:11:13 PM EDT
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I picked mine up this past week. it shipped only a few days after I preordered from kvar. It is built very well!
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