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Posted: 7/24/2016 11:04:44 AM EDT
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If you want the best you want a Hungarian, Yugo or Chinese pre ban.
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Posted: 7/24/2016 11:44:52 AM EDT
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Doesn't answer your question or fit any of the specifics you mentioned, but it's my favorite and I just got it done.
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Posted: 7/24/2016 12:11:24 PM EDT
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SA M7's
SLR's SGL's |
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Posted: 7/24/2016 12:29:16 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/24/2016 12:42:07 PM EDT
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M92 for SBR project.
Arsenal for build quality Wasr for price And of course you can go pre-ban or ban era and de ban it. In my opinion the Chinese AK's are some of the nicest to come in the country. |
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Posted: 7/24/2016 12:43:24 PM EDT
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Arsenal
Definitive Arms DDI |
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Posted: 7/24/2016 2:19:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: +1 Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: SA M7's SLR's SGL's |
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Posted: 7/24/2016 2:47:48 PM EDT
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Chinese preban Vepr chambered in 5.45 with sgm tactical magazines. |
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Posted: 7/24/2016 9:40:16 PM EDT
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Sorry. No preban or modified posts allowed.
Please resume. {i.e., keep'em coming} |
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Posted: 7/24/2016 9:45:29 PM EDT
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Love my Interams WS88.
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Posted: 7/25/2016 10:36:48 AM EDT
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Bulgarian SAM7-series
Bulgarian SLR-series Russian Molot Vepr-series |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 3:06:54 PM EDT
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Pretty much anything from Arsenal.
SGL, SLR, SAM series are all great options. |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 3:52:04 PM EDT
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Bulgarian SAM7-series Bulgarian SLR-series Russian Molot Vepr-series Probably. |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 4:53:25 PM EDT
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By that I mean, no add-on's, no modifications-needed. For the guy that just wants to walk in the store and buy the best, most reliable and accurate AK. Give some technical reasons and general costs as well. In both 7.62x39 and 5.45x39. Ready, Set, Go! If you don't include a bring back or pre-ban, do you only mean currently in production? |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 5:43:39 PM EDT
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If you don't include a bring back or pre-ban, do you only mean currently in production? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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By that I mean, no add-on's, no modifications-needed. For the guy that just wants to walk in the store and buy the best, most reliable and accurate AK. Give some technical reasons and general costs as well. In both 7.62x39 and 5.45x39. Ready, Set, Go! If you don't include a bring back or pre-ban, do you only mean currently in production? Yeah, that would be good. |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 5:54:27 PM EDT
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Sorry. No preban or modified posts allowed.
Please resume. {i.e., keep'em coming} So you're just gonna go ahead and rule out : Hungarian SA-85's, 63's, 55's, AMD65's East German MPi Polish Beryls, Tantals Chinese AK47s Chinese 56's, Polytechs, Norincos, NHM 90, 91, Mak 90 etc. Russian Vepr's Russian SGL 20's, 21's etc. Converted Russian Saiga's Krinks Dragunovs AK47 type 1, type 2, type 3 RPK's Romanian SAR 1's, PSL's, Romanian M10's Converted Yugo M92 and M85 carbines Yugo M70's, 72's, 64's, 76's, 77's, 80's, O-paps Egyptian Maadi's Bulgarian SLR 95, 93 Iraqi Tabuk Finnish Valmet Israeli Galil ...wow. Yeah, just buy a Wasr dude, or pay twice as much for an Arsenal that doesn't really do much for the extra coin. There's really nothing left to you besides American-made-with cheapie barrels and parts after that. |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 6:19:34 PM EDT
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I own a Chinese MAK and a Blugy SLR105A1; to me, they are top tier AKs; may not be cream of the crop AKs, but they are up there.
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Posted: 7/25/2016 6:22:23 PM EDT
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Lately the best AKs are Arsenal or kits with original barrels built by reputable smiths.
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Posted: 7/25/2016 11:08:09 PM EDT
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So you're just gonna go ahead and rule out : Hungarian SA-85's, 63's, 55's, AMD65's East German MPi Polish Beryls, Tantals Chinese AK47s Chinese 56's, Polytechs, Norincos, NHM 90, 91, Mak 90 etc. Russian Vepr's Russian SGL 20's, 21's etc. Converted Russian Saiga's Krinks Dragunovs AK47 type 1, type 2, type 3 RPK's Romanian SAR 1's, PSL's, Romanian M10's Converted Yugo M92 and M85 carbines Yugo M70's, 72's, 64's, 76's, 77's, 80's, O-paps Egyptian Maadi's Bulgarian SLR 95, 93 Iraqi Tabuk Finnish Valmet Israeli Galil ...wow. Yeah, just buy a Wasr dude, or pay twice as much for an Arsenal that doesn't really do much for the extra coin. There's really nothing left to you besides American-made-with cheapie barrels and parts after that. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Sorry. No preban or modified posts allowed.
Please resume. {i.e., keep'em coming} So you're just gonna go ahead and rule out : Hungarian SA-85's, 63's, 55's, AMD65's East German MPi Polish Beryls, Tantals Chinese AK47s Chinese 56's, Polytechs, Norincos, NHM 90, 91, Mak 90 etc. Russian Vepr's Russian SGL 20's, 21's etc. Converted Russian Saiga's Krinks Dragunovs AK47 type 1, type 2, type 3 RPK's Romanian SAR 1's, PSL's, Romanian M10's Converted Yugo M92 and M85 carbines Yugo M70's, 72's, 64's, 76's, 77's, 80's, O-paps Egyptian Maadi's Bulgarian SLR 95, 93 Iraqi Tabuk Finnish Valmet Israeli Galil ...wow. Yeah, just buy a Wasr dude, or pay twice as much for an Arsenal that doesn't really do much for the extra coin. There's really nothing left to you besides American-made-with cheapie barrels and parts after that. ??? I never said I was buying one. Just curious as to what the best new-and-currently-manufactured AK's are. |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 11:11:49 PM EDT
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RAS47
C39
Shovel 47 
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Posted: 7/26/2016 11:09:56 AM EDT
[#21]
well look who is back
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Posted: 7/26/2016 12:46:12 PM EDT
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Arsenal
Krebs ... Arsenal again lol The Yugos from century are good too, but arsenal does a more precise job and uses new parts (not used parts kits like some manufacturers) I've used arsenal, century and keeps and they are all good but accuracy was best on the arsenal and fit and finish was tie arsenal/krebs |
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Posted: 7/26/2016 5:33:14 PM EDT
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You'll never get a consensus on this. AKs aren't fungible goods; they're all slightly different and thus every comparison is, by definition, an apples to oranges comparison.
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Posted: 7/26/2016 5:59:02 PM EDT
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??? I never said I was buying one. Just curious as to what the best new-and-currently-manufactured AK's are. Oh, that's easy, Vepr, Arsenal, Romanian, Yugo (Zastava, Serbia actually), and anything American made. In that order. The FullerKrebDAKMetc. stuff is just plain ol AK's with some bolt-on crap you could do yourself plus some ridiculous de-horning stupid, and for this they want a couple grand, stay away from that kinda junk. Stock combloc rifles FTMFW. Season to taste with furniture and optic of choice. |
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Posted: 7/26/2016 9:25:52 PM EDT
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Oh, that's easy, Vepr, Arsenal, Romanian, Yugo (Zastava, Serbia actually), and anything American made. In that order. The FullerKrebDAKMetc. stuff is just plain ol AK's with some bolt-on crap you could do yourself plus some ridiculous de-horning stupid, and for this they want a couple grand, stay away from that kinda junk. Stock combloc rifles FTMFW. Season to taste with furniture and optic of choice. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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??? I never said I was buying one. Just curious as to what the best new-and-currently-manufactured AK's are. Oh, that's easy, Vepr, Arsenal, Romanian, Yugo (Zastava, Serbia actually), and anything American made. In that order. The FullerKrebDAKMetc. stuff is just plain ol AK's with some bolt-on crap you could do yourself plus some ridiculous de-horning stupid, and for this they want a couple grand, stay away from that kinda junk. Stock combloc rifles FTMFW. Season to taste with furniture and optic of choice. Thanks. Are Veprs still imported? I have heard they are good stuff. Are they? |
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Posted: 7/26/2016 9:53:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thanks. Are Veprs still imported? I have heard they are good stuff. Are they? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: ??? I never said I was buying one. Just curious as to what the best new-and-currently-manufactured AK's are. Oh, that's easy, Vepr, Arsenal, Romanian, Yugo (Zastava, Serbia actually), and anything American made. In that order. The FullerKrebDAKMetc. stuff is just plain ol AK's with some bolt-on crap you could do yourself plus some ridiculous de-horning stupid, and for this they want a couple grand, stay away from that kinda junk. Stock combloc rifles FTMFW. Season to taste with furniture and optic of choice. Thanks. Are Veprs still imported? I have heard they are good stuff. Are they? They're selling for $750 online with the thumbhole stock. Check Gunbroker, Atlantic, or the usual sources. |
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Posted: 7/26/2016 10:09:00 PM EDT
[#27]
Mod Outfitters is definitly up there! |
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Posted: 7/26/2016 11:39:54 PM EDT
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OK guys...
Now, let's say I want a 7.62x39 AK. No "needed" mods, just a turn-key, stock, current production rifle. Two categories; 1} Price is no issue. 2} Under $1000. Which one to get? Have at it. |
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Posted: 7/27/2016 12:42:12 AM EDT
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OK guys... Now, let's say I want a 7.62x39 AK. No "needed" mods, just a turn-key, stock, current production rifle. Two categories; 1} Price is no issue. 2} Under $1000. Which one to get? Have at it. MAK 90/ Used Arsenal SLR/ Maybe DDI If choose one its MAK |
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Posted: 7/27/2016 1:26:05 AM EDT
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Doesn't answer your question or fit any of the specifics you mentioned, but it's my favorite and I just got it done. http://<a href=http://i1333.photobucket.com/albums/w630/bonrya/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsxpvznxsa.jpeg</a>" /> Bondryan, Who made that stock you have on the weapon? It looks like something I'd be interested in. |
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Posted: 7/27/2016 7:14:36 AM EDT
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So you're just gonna go ahead and rule out : Hungarian SA-85's, 63's, 55's, AMD65's East German MPi Polish Beryls, Tantals Chinese AK47s Chinese 56's, Polytechs, Norincos, NHM 90, 91, Mak 90 etc. Russian Vepr's Russian SGL 20's, 21's etc. Converted Russian Saiga's Krinks Dragunovs AK47 type 1, type 2, type 3 RPK's Romanian SAR 1's, PSL's, Romanian M10's Converted Yugo M92 and M85 carbines Yugo M70's, 72's, 64's, 76's, 77's, 80's, O-paps Egyptian Maadi's Bulgarian SLR 95, 93 Iraqi Tabuk Finnish Valmet Israeli Galil ...wow. Yeah, just buy a Wasr dude, or pay twice as much for an Arsenal that doesn't really do much for the extra coin. There's really nothing left to you besides American-made-with cheapie barrels and parts after that. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Sorry. No preban or modified posts allowed.
Please resume. {i.e., keep'em coming} So you're just gonna go ahead and rule out : Hungarian SA-85's, 63's, 55's, AMD65's East German MPi Polish Beryls, Tantals Chinese AK47s Chinese 56's, Polytechs, Norincos, NHM 90, 91, Mak 90 etc. Russian Vepr's Russian SGL 20's, 21's etc. Converted Russian Saiga's Krinks Dragunovs AK47 type 1, type 2, type 3 RPK's Romanian SAR 1's, PSL's, Romanian M10's Converted Yugo M92 and M85 carbines Yugo M70's, 72's, 64's, 76's, 77's, 80's, O-paps Egyptian Maadi's Bulgarian SLR 95, 93 Iraqi Tabuk Finnish Valmet Israeli Galil ...wow. Yeah, just buy a Wasr dude, or pay twice as much for an Arsenal that doesn't really do much for the extra coin. There's really nothing left to you besides American-made-with cheapie barrels and parts after that. True that. |
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Posted: 7/27/2016 4:28:50 PM EDT
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OK guys... Now, let's say I want a 7.62x39 AK. No "needed" mods, just a turn-key, stock, current production rifle. Two categories; 1} Price is no issue. 2} Under $1000. Which one to get? Have at it. You need to clarify what you mean by "needed" mods. It sounds like you want an Arsenal, you should just get one and be done. Under a grand then buy a WASR. |
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Posted: 7/27/2016 5:32:49 PM EDT
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You need to clarify what you mean by "needed" mods. It sounds like you want an Arsenal, you should just get one and be done. Under a grand then buy a WASR. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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OK guys... Now, let's say I want a 7.62x39 AK. No "needed" mods, just a turn-key, stock, current production rifle. Two categories; 1} Price is no issue. 2} Under $1000. Which one to get? Have at it. You need to clarify what you mean by "needed" mods. It sounds like you want an Arsenal, you should just get one and be done. Under a grand then buy a WASR. I think you answered it. The "needed mods" was a reference to those that say "Get this but you need to add this..." etc. Thanks for the info. |
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Posted: 7/28/2016 2:36:46 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/28/2016 10:21:12 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/29/2016 1:12:56 AM EDT
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Just get a WASR. Spend the extra$$ on ammo and mags.
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Posted: 7/29/2016 3:25:43 AM EDT
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Sad to tell you that all currently made AKs on the market are junk. It is a hit or miss. There is no consistency in quality. They are made from much inferior materials than they used to.
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Posted: 7/30/2016 4:08:43 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/31/2016 11:24:06 AM EDT
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Category 1 - Arsenal SLR-107.
Category 2 - WASR, 10 steel surplus mags, and a case of ammo. I do love my NPAP but the WASR will take all standard AKM accessories. |
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Posted: 8/4/2016 6:41:41 PM EDT
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Oh, that's easy, Vepr, Arsenal, Romanian, Yugo (Zastava, Serbia actually), and anything American made. In that order. The FullerKrebDAKMetc. stuff is just plain ol AK's with some bolt-on crap you could do yourself plus some ridiculous de-horning stupid, and for this they want a couple grand, stay away from that kinda junk. Stock combloc rifles FTMFW. Season to taste with furniture and optic of choice. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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??? I never said I was buying one. Just curious as to what the best new-and-currently-manufactured AK's are. Oh, that's easy, Vepr, Arsenal, Romanian, Yugo (Zastava, Serbia actually), and anything American made. In that order. The FullerKrebDAKMetc. stuff is just plain ol AK's with some bolt-on crap you could do yourself plus some ridiculous de-horning stupid, and for this they want a couple grand, stay away from that kinda junk. Stock combloc rifles FTMFW. Season to taste with furniture and optic of choice. Cugir ahead of Zastava? Is this a knife I feel in my back? |
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