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Posted: 11/14/2015 12:08:27 PM EDT
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Sounds like good news to me, keeps prices down and availability up
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Posted: 11/14/2015 12:16:41 PM EDT
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With falling .223 prices and caliber consolidation maybe? The cheapest steel .223 is now below the cheapest 5.45, and non corrosive.
But there is still time to accumulate enough 5.45x39 that even Hillary nor the UN can make you stop shooting. |
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Posted: 11/14/2015 12:26:00 PM EDT
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I did just that recently. Got rid of a half dozen 5.45 AK variants, a 5.45 S&W AR, a bunch of mags for both, and about 10k rounds of ammo. Got considerably more out of them in cash and trade than I had in them, and zero regrets. I always preferred my 7.62 AKs anyway, and the timing/market was right for me to make that move then.
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Posted: 11/14/2015 1:35:02 PM EDT
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I keep at least something in all of the major chamberings for AK's (along with other similar firearms). It lets me be flexible when shooting. If X dries up for a while I shoot more Y. If Y dries up I shoot more of Z. Etc.
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Posted: 11/14/2015 1:53:20 PM EDT
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I keep at least something in all of the major chamberings for AK's (along with other similar firearms). It lets me be flexible when shooting. If X dries up for a while I shoot more Y. If Y dries up I shoot more of Z. Etc. I have enough diversity in my ARs and other black rifles to more than cover such considerations. Still have AKs in 7.62 and 5.56, but really only shoot the 7.62s. YMMV, but I will never miss the 5.45 round, personally. |
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Posted: 11/14/2015 2:33:28 PM EDT
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I'm contemplating doing the opposite... getting out of 7.62. Only have one rifle in that caliber and little interest in getting more. Don't have much of the ammo on hand (700 rounds woohoo). I have a lot more 5.45 and 5.56 on hand. I'm trying to buy a case of ammo every month from now till the election.. to get my 7.62 stash up to where the others already are would take most of the year.
I don't care that 5.45 is only available online.. as that is the only place to get ammo for decent prices. Anything local is just a rip off compared to online. |
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Posted: 11/14/2015 5:04:27 PM EDT
[#7]
The reason I went with 5.45x39, is a bad shoulder. My Lancaster AK47 was too painful to shoot and I sold it a few years ago. So, I will be sticking with 5.45x39.
dryflash3, my apologies for not knowing the link rules. 
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Posted: 11/14/2015 5:58:19 PM EDT
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5.45 is amazing and at 9 cents a round, it was the best ammo deal going in the past 10 years.
If we clear the current trash from the Oval Office, and open the flood gates up on this ammo, I think you'll see a lot of people gear up again. Does 5.45 make any sense if costs the same as .223, and is corrosive? No, probably not to the general shooting community. But I love the round because for me, I got 95% of the training value of .223, for around 40% of the price. I quit using my .22 conversions for a while, because there really wasn't much point. Its pretty hard to argue with two tins of 7n6 and a 74 or SW 5.45 as a SHTF setup. |
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Posted: 11/14/2015 7:09:21 PM EDT
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While I've had 5.45 SAR-2s for a long time, this year I decided to get into the 7.62x39 in a WASR and a Sig Xi Russian.
In a SHTF scenario I'd use my 5.45 up first since resupply in 5.45 would be problematic compared to 7.62x39, 5.56 and .308 IMO. |
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Posted: 11/14/2015 8:32:36 PM EDT
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I switched to .223. Wolf Gold is $300 shipped for 1000 rounds. I'm tired of playing the surplus ammo game.
Really wish I hadn't sold off my 106CR now lol. |
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Posted: 11/14/2015 9:26:28 PM EDT
[#11]
Blasphemy! 5.45x39 is magic!
I simply prefer it in short barrel AK's and would happily give a happy home to any orphaned 5.45x39 mags and 7n6 ammo. 
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Posted: 11/14/2015 11:31:42 PM EDT
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I missed out on the spam can days, so I never got to hoard 5.45. That's the only reason I ever would've been into it.
By the time cheap spam cans were drying up, I decided to just avoid the whole caliber and move towards 5.56 for ARs and AKs alike. Then a couple years later the Obama EOs sealed the deal on that. All of my 5.56 rifles eat Wolf steel without any issue, and it's now the same price or lower than commercial 5.45. No point in getting into the caliber at this point, and if I had a stash of 5.45 I would probably sell off the rifles once it was gone. |
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Posted: 11/15/2015 12:26:14 AM EDT
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I just got 3 tins and some red army for 18.4 cents a round. Still see lots around here for ammo under ~230 a tin. Rifles are what I've seen drying up, maybe 3-4 is all I see on the local site.
As many people can got out of it as they want, I'll gladly pick up their castaways. I have a hoard of rifles, mags and ammo but its never enough. Friends and family are all heavily invested as well. Edit: I actually just traded off my last 5.56 rifle today. I'm totally committed now I guess. |
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Posted: 11/15/2015 12:47:33 AM EDT
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I wish someone would get out of their 5.45 krink for cheap.
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Posted: 11/15/2015 2:22:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The reason I went with 5.45x39, is a bad shoulder. My Lancaster AK47 was too painful to shoot and I sold it a few years ago. So, I will be sticking with 5.45x39. dryflash3, my apologies for not knowing the link rules. As long as you don't do it again, we're good.  |
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Posted: 11/15/2015 5:01:56 PM EDT
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Meh, I'm not getting rid of mine.
It's a fun little round, and I dont mind buying bulk ammo online. Plus, my AK74M clone complete with 1P29 scope just wouldn't be a 74 clone if it weren't 5.45x39. However, it is ARFCOM, so I got both. I've also got an SLR 106 for domestic ammo use.
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Posted: 11/15/2015 6:57:38 PM EDT
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I don't think its a very wise move to get out of 5.45x39 personally. Using it in an AR isn't as attractive as it was with .223 being cheap at the moment. Yeah, the days of dirt cheap 5.45 might have passed but there is still plenty out there and its a great round and still cheap. Its smart to keep military ammo options open. After Sandy Hook when all the ammo was tough to get I could still get 5.45.
Unless you are limited by available storage space its not like its costing money to keep the rifles and ammo. If anything I'm getting more 5.45 AKs and ammo. I fully support others getting out though. I recommend people get out of 5.56 and 22lr too. 
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Posted: 11/16/2015 10:39:47 AM EDT
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I would love to get out just because I need money more than guns not because I don't love it. But I DREAD shipping it, it's so freaking heavy.. So I just put it off.. And plus I love my krink it will be a sad day if I sell it.
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Posted: 11/16/2015 12:00:18 PM EDT
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I would love to get out just because I need money more than guns not because I don't love it. But I DREAD shipping it, it's so freaking heavy.. So I just put it off.. And plus I love my krink it will be a sad day if I sell it. Dread shipping it because it's heavy??? When you ship it,you don't have to hand carry it to the destination. Someone puts it in a truck and drives it there for you. |
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Posted: 11/16/2015 12:16:33 PM EDT
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5.45 is amazing and at 9 cents a round, it was the best ammo deal going in the past 10 years. If we clear the current trash from the Oval Office, and open the flood gates up on this ammo, I think you'll see a lot of people gear up again. Does 5.45 make any sense if costs the same as .223, and is corrosive? No, probably not to the general shooting community. But I love the round because for me, I got 95% of the training value of .223, for around 40% of the price. I quit using my .22 conversions for a while, because there really wasn't much point. Its pretty hard to argue with two tins of 7n6 and a 74 or SW 5.45 as a SHTF setup. Not gonna happen. We are saddled with the Clinton VRA 20 years after it was implemented, and the 5.45 import ban was an ATF ruling - it would take a court case or a change in law to get it reversed. |
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Posted: 11/16/2015 1:06:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I just got 3 tins and some red army for 18.4 cents a round. Link? |
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Posted: 11/16/2015 1:35:58 PM EDT
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I'm tied to 5.45x39 for life I think. I really like the cartridge and stacked the 7n6 up before the ban. I tend to shoot more of it through my AR's right now, but I like my AK74's also.
It would be a total pain to sell out now, plus it's awesome to shoot centerfire rifle for sooo cheap. I reload 95% of everything else I shoot to save money too, but sometimes it's nice to just cut a tin open and blast away on the cheap without going to any extra effort. |
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Posted: 11/16/2015 2:38:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Link? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I just got 3 tins and some red army for 18.4 cents a round. Link? |
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Posted: 11/17/2015 1:27:39 PM EDT
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I got rid of all my AKs in the caliber except for a Saiga I did a conversion on. I do have two AR's in the caliber though. One with a S&W upper and one that I assembled from parts myself. I have plenty of ammo that will last my lifetime unless I decide to get rid of everything at a profit. I was buying 5.45x39 ammo back to about 2000 and still have most of it. I did sell some to people buying other things from me if they mentioned needing some when the military surplus type was banned from import. I probably have a stack of unopened tins in my basement along with some ammo cans stuffed with it.
I've got cases of Wolf and Barnaul for the ARs from back when I was buying it for $99.00 per 1,000's rounds. |
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Posted: 11/17/2015 2:45:13 PM EDT
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There are still some deals popping up for 5.45x39. But I've never had any luck with commercial Wolf, only brand that malfunctions in my AR upper. I'll still grab 7N6 if I see a good deal on it.
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Posted: 11/18/2015 11:36:58 AM EDT
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There's still a good amount of 7.5x55 floating around. I'm not remotely worried about 5.45x39 dying. If someone would get off their ass and make a 5.56 round with the design characteristics of 7N6, I might consider bailing eventually, but most likely not even then.
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Posted: 11/18/2015 11:50:09 AM EDT
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If you don't have ammo for your gun, all you have is an expensive wall hanger. I like the 74, but availability of ammo and not being able to reload that caliber stopped me from getting it.
My basic rule is to stick with the most popular/available ammunition and be able to reload it. .223/5.56. 7.72x39 for rifles. 12 gauge for shotguns. Even during the big shortage there was always 12 gauge on the shelves at Walmart. 9mm and .45. For pistols. Add to that, the availability of magazines. Rifles must use either AR or AK mags. For pistols, I'm a big Glock fan. I do have others, but mainly concentrate on Glocks. Mags are easy to find. |
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Posted: 11/18/2015 1:35:47 PM EDT
[#28]
I got it out of it too. Took my 74 and krink to my friendly ffl so he could sell them for me and sold my mags here on EE. I haven't sold the ammo yet cause I would hate to deal with shipping. Someone was suppose to clean me out for a good price but never came thru. Availability is my concern even though its available right now. I want something I can get ammo for locally.
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Posted: 11/18/2015 6:15:10 PM EDT
[#29]
I have never understood the chicken little mentality when it comes to this caliber.
People said the same thing when the Chinese ammo was banned for the 7.62x39 and dumped that platform. I bought a lot of very good rifles and a ton of ammo cheap in the early to mid 90's, ammo I'm still shooting today. |
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Posted: 11/18/2015 6:31:30 PM EDT
[#30]
My strategy is to buy 5.56 barrels for my 5.45 rifles. I'll convert them to 5.56 if 5.45 goes away and my stockpile runs out. No big deal. I've read a 5.45 bolt works just fine.
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Posted: 11/18/2015 6:33:23 PM EDT
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I have never understood the chicken little mentality when it comes to this caliber. People said the same thing when the Chinese ammo was banned for the 7.62x39 and dumped that platform. I bought a lot of very good rifles and a ton of ammo cheap in the early to mid 90's, ammo I'm still shooting today. This Since the 7n6 ban, ive been seeing alot more commercial 5.45 showing up |
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Posted: 11/18/2015 6:43:27 PM EDT
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I have never understood the chicken little mentality when it comes to this caliber. People said the same thing when the Chinese ammo was banned for the 7.62x39 and dumped that platform. I bought a lot of very good rifles and a ton of ammo cheap in the early to mid 90's, ammo I'm still shooting today. Thats true. Only reason for me is that I like to buy ammo locally and not deal with shipping it to my house cause I'm never home and would hate to lose my ammo package. If I could have it delivered to my work or a po box, I wouldn't care. Also I wanna keep less calibers and decided to keep 7.62x39. |
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Posted: 11/19/2015 8:32:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My strategy is to buy 5.56 barrels for my 5.45 rifles. I'll convert them to 5.56 if 5.45 goes away and my stockpile runs out. No big deal. I've read a 5.45 bolt works just fine. it does. No mods even. All you guys can keep running from the 5.5. Fine by me. |
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Posted: 11/22/2015 11:52:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My strategy is to buy 5.56 barrels for my 5.45 rifles. I'll convert them to 5.56 if 5.45 goes away and my stockpile runs out. No big deal. I've read a 5.45 bolt works just fine. |
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Posted: 11/23/2015 12:00:16 PM EDT
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Got rid of all my 5.45 stuff, why stock pile another caliber and accessories when the 5.56 AR15 platform does the same thing, is more versatile in parts,accessories , variety of ammo and scope mounting..
I concentrated on one AK platform the 7.62x39 , its the perfect urban defense round for a rifle with open sights.Due to is medium range a scope is not needed but a red dot can be mounted easily and used by anyone. |
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Posted: 11/23/2015 1:26:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Got rid of all my 5.45 stuff, why stock pile another caliber and accessories when the 5.56 AR15 platform does the same thing, is more versatile in parts,accessories , variety of ammo and scope mounting.. I concentrated on one AK platform the 7.62x39 , its the perfect urban defense round for a rifle with open sights.Due to is medium range a scope is not needed but a red dot can be mounted easily and used by anyone. |
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Posted: 11/23/2015 2:27:26 PM EDT
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I can shoot my "krink" out to 500 with a red dot and hit man sized steel targets all day. So, I guess it depends on what you mean by medium range. Oh, and it's in 5.45. Nice shooting , did it leave a mark on the target coming out of that 8 inch barrel ?
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Posted: 11/23/2015 10:17:08 PM EDT
[#38]
probably not
but you could hear it hit. |
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Posted: 11/23/2015 11:09:47 PM EDT
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I'm all in on 5.45, my only EBR is an SGL-31. I stacked 5.45 as deep as I could when it was cheap, and even a bit after. I wish I could find these guys unloading 5.45, only ones on the local gun site are asking nearly commercial prices, and since I live in BFE and would have to drive quite a ways to meet them, it'd probably be cheaper just to order it online. Even so, at the rate I shoot (not nearly as often as I'd like or I should), my stash of 5.45 will last for many years.
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My strategy is to buy 5.56 barrels for my 5.45 rifles. I'll convert them to 5.56 if 5.45 goes away and my stockpile runs out. No big deal. I've read a 5.45 bolt works just fine. Very interesting, I never thought of that. Maybe folks in the know could tell me what would be involved with converting my SGL to .223 down the road. New barrel, obviously. Sounds like the 5.45 bolt will work. Mags? Reliability after conversion? One reason I haven't thought of getting out of 5.45 is because my SGL runs like a Swiss watch on 7N6 and Russian mags. Zero stoppages ever. Most reliable rifle I've ever owned. |
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Posted: 11/23/2015 11:34:47 PM EDT
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I've never done one of the 5.56 builds personally, but supposedly the barrel is it. I have read that the mags can have issues if loaded with more that 25 rounds, but again, I don't know first hand.
I do know that you need a 74 profile barrel, not a standard 47 barrel in 5.56. AK builder used to have them in stock, I don't know any more. If your going to have parts to make it in 5.56 I'd stock a AR15 mag well also. If you need to have the caliber to be the same you probably need the mags also. I've installed a bastard kit on an M85 and it can be done with a dremel and a few drill bits. |
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Posted: 11/25/2015 11:53:16 AM EDT
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The only other issue will be mag well dimensions. IIRC a 223 mag is different than a 5.45 mag.
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Posted: 11/25/2015 3:47:54 PM EDT
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Would it still be worth it to get into 5.45 AKM's at this point?
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Posted: 11/26/2015 1:13:07 PM EDT
[#43]
Yes. If you keep your eyes open you can find 7N6 cheap. I just bought a few thousand from a guy locally for $0.16 a round.
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Posted: 11/27/2015 11:59:23 AM EDT
[#44]
This thread has inspired me to get out of the 74 game. I'm selling all my 74 guns and ammo and buying more AR' s.
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Posted: 11/27/2015 9:17:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This thread has inspired me to get out of the 74 game. I'm selling all my 74 guns and ammo and buying more AR' s. |
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Posted: 11/27/2015 10:53:56 PM EDT
[#46]
545 is better than 762x39, so there is that...
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Posted: 12/7/2015 11:47:44 AM EDT
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This thread has inspired me to get out of the 74 game. I'm selling all my 74 guns and ammo and buying more AR' s. Ohio |
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Posted: 12/7/2015 7:07:57 PM EDT
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Nice shooting , did it leave a mark on the target coming out of that 8 inch barrel ? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I can shoot my "krink" out to 500 with a red dot and hit man sized steel targets all day. So, I guess it depends on what you mean by medium range. Oh, and it's in 5.45. Nice shooting , did it leave a mark on the target coming out of that 8 inch barrel ? 5.45 is less dependent on velocity than 5.56 is for soft target performance. 7.62 is still king out of short barrels in the 0-150m zone |
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Posted: 12/10/2015 2:30:43 AM EDT
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it does. No mods even. All you guys can keep running from the 5.5. Fine by me. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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My strategy is to buy 5.56 barrels for my 5.45 rifles. I'll convert them to 5.56 if 5.45 goes away and my stockpile runs out. No big deal. I've read a 5.45 bolt works just fine. it does. No mods even. All you guys can keep running from the 5.5. Fine by me. I built two kits in 5.56 using east german weiger barrels. I did engineer a spring loaded firing pin as a couple of times I had slam fires due to the softer 5.56 primers. Other wise the 5.45 bolt worked fine. 
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Posted: 12/10/2015 1:08:55 PM EDT
[#50]
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I keep at least something in all of the major chamberings for AK's (along with other similar firearms). It lets me be flexible when shooting. If X dries up for a while I shoot more Y. If Y dries up I shoot more of Z. Etc. This is what I do |
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