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Posted: 2/14/2015 8:57:58 AM EDT
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Pic. Please?
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Posted: 2/14/2015 11:35:47 AM EDT
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I have never owned a blow back operated rifle, although from my understanding is that if you have underpowered ammo it wont cycle... ? Underpowered ammo wont cycle anything well except manually operated firearms. Blowback are generally very reliable, all those semi auto .22lr's pistols and rifles are blowback. |
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Posted: 2/14/2015 11:54:28 AM EDT
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I have never owned a blow back operated rifle, although from my understanding is that if you have underpowered ammo it wont cycle... ? I have been looking at the keltec sub2000 in 9mm to buy since gen 2 will have a threaded barrell for 9mm suppressor... And I agree unless this ak is much better than a sub2000 or a hi point I don't see the advantages. Although to be fair we haven't even seen a picture!! Also the hi point and sub2000 are ugly little beasts. I built an AK in 9mm about 8 years ago. It was a big fad back then. UZI barrel. AK-74 bolt welded to carrier. Sten mag with custom housing. With 9x19, blowback gun will eat underpowered ammo way better than locked recoil operated (like browning design) firearms. Also with blowback, oversized case is no problem. Unlike locked recoil breach where the case length is critical for the firearms to be locked. This is one reason cheap blowback 9x19 pistols are very reliable (like hi-point). No machining precision is required like locked breech. |
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Posted: 2/14/2015 11:51:19 PM EDT
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I don't understand the disdain in this thread for blowback-operated guns. The Russian Vityaz, MP5, and Uzi are all blowback.
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Posted: 2/15/2015 12:05:58 AM EDT
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I don't understand the disdain in this thread for blowback-operated guns. The Russian Vityaz, MP5, and Uzi are all blowback. MP5 is a roller locked delayed blowback. Not the same as the simple blowback of the Vityaz and UZI. |
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Posted: 2/15/2015 5:32:18 PM EDT
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how do we still have no photos!?
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Posted: 2/16/2015 9:56:52 PM EDT
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How am I supposed to spend money if I can't even see the thing.
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Posted: 2/16/2015 10:15:14 PM EDT
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How am I supposed to spend money if I can't even see the thing. How are you supposed to spend money when it's not even for sale yet? 
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Posted: 2/16/2015 10:43:29 PM EDT
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How are you supposed to spend money when it's not even for sale yet? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How am I supposed to spend money if I can't even see the thing. How are you supposed to spend money when it's not even for sale yet? I've only got the money for one purchase this year, I can't even see what it looks like so I guess I'll just buy something else. 
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Posted: 2/16/2015 11:28:14 PM EDT
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I would think that the lack of info and pictures more people are going to buy the CZ evo.
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Posted: 2/17/2015 1:33:25 AM EDT
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Atlantic's silence is deafening. Wonder if the project was scrapped.
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Posted: 2/17/2015 8:55:23 AM EDT
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I would think that the lack of info and pictures more people are going to buy the CZ evo. This is going to be me if I don't see something soon! Or a mini uzi SBR. Basically I NEED a tiny 9mm trunk gun. 
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Posted: 2/17/2015 10:43:12 AM EDT
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I'm beginning to think these rifles must be uglier than a bag o smashed !@#$. Lack of pics is suspicious...
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Posted: 2/17/2015 12:58:15 PM EDT
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That's the danger of these "sneak peek" teasers. People get excited, want more information, and the manufacturer isn't ready. Then people get frustrated and move on to something else. It's why Magpul doesn't anything until they are almost ready to ship anymore.
Atlantic should have held off until they were ready to go. I fully expect it to be priced too high and have an awkward magazine lockup. I hope I'm wrong on both accounts but right now, I too would rather go with the Skorpion EVO. I know how much it costs and a reasonable expectation that it will work. |
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Posted: 2/17/2015 6:32:15 PM EDT
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Atlantic should at least say something since we as consumers want to spend money. I loose interest after a manufacturer posts then doesn't say anything for weeks on end. I am sure they have seen the postings about this.
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Posted: 2/17/2015 6:35:25 PM EDT
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I'm being a patient boy. Atlantic has never let me down before.
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Posted: 2/17/2015 7:39:19 PM EDT
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Here is a 9mm AK prototype. I have read this is a Volk Armament Volk-9 prototype. |
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Posted: 2/17/2015 8:19:56 PM EDT
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sexy sexy and oh did I say sexy
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Posted: 2/17/2015 8:47:16 PM EDT
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I hope Atlantic's offering will be more of a krink
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Posted: 2/17/2015 10:07:24 PM EDT
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I hope Atlantic's offering will be more of a krink That would be tight, but Krinkov parts are more $, but damn sexy |
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Posted: 2/17/2015 10:33:35 PM EDT
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This man gets it
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I've only got the money for one purchase this year, I can't even see what it looks like so I guess I'll just buy something else. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How am I supposed to spend money if I can't even see the thing. How are you supposed to spend money when it's not even for sale yet? I've only got the money for one purchase this year, I can't even see what it looks like so I guess I'll just buy something else. |
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Posted: 2/17/2015 11:29:29 PM EDT
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I hope Atlantic's offering will be more of a krink I doubt it, most people have been screaming for a Vityaz clone for years now. I'm expect them to go that route. We'll see though. |
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Posted: 2/18/2015 12:28:06 AM EDT
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I doubt it, most people have been screaming for a Vityaz clone for years now. I'm expect them to go that route. We'll see though. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I hope Atlantic's offering will be more of a krink I doubt it, most people have been screaming for a Vityaz clone for years now. I'm expect them to go that route. We'll see though. I would be nice if they posted a damn pic. Seriously, I love Atlantic, but this is just stupid. If they didn't want us to have any info on it until it's ready to ship (or whatever) they should have just kept their mouth shut about it. Yeah, my feels are starting to be hurt a little bit. |
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Posted: 2/18/2015 12:44:27 AM EDT
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I heard from a semi reliable source that these are being made by Petronov something or other, which is Lancaster's new name. Buyer beware!
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Posted: 2/18/2015 5:14:06 PM EDT
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http://<a href=http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/trunkmonkey240/10433270_1404972776418956_9072210757052307768_n_zpsxaebm1xc.jpg</a>" /> http://<a href=http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/trunkmonkey240/10891472_1446491138933786_8109289522228696062_n_zpslgiy7ykf.jpg</a>" /> <a href="http://s1066.photobucket.com/user/trunkmonkey240/media/10438563_1404974109752156_2289752350868001645_n_zpsuybtixnw.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u410/trunkmonkey240/10438563_1404974109752156_2289752350868001645_n_zpsuybtixnw.jpg</a> Here is a 9mm AK prototype. I have read this is a Volk Armament Volk-9 prototype. Is this the one Manticore Arms was refering to earlier that takes the MP5 mags? |
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Posted: 2/18/2015 8:19:33 PM EDT
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I heard from a semi reliable source that these are being made by Petronov something or other, which is Lancaster's new name. Buyer beware! i thought atlantic said these were made in-house. |
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Posted: 2/18/2015 9:12:40 PM EDT
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i thought atlantic said these were made in-house. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I heard from a semi reliable source that these are being made by Petronov something or other, which is Lancaster's new name. Buyer beware! i thought atlantic said these were made in-house. Atlantic doesn't technically make anything. They contract the projects out to other builders, then sell it under their own Atlantic Arms brand. |
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Posted: 2/18/2015 9:22:32 PM EDT
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Schmexy
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Posted: 2/18/2015 9:27:38 PM EDT
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Atlantic's silence is indeed deafening. I wonder what's going on with this project. Even if it proves not to be vaporware, I am not sure the choice of straight stick mags was a wise one. Curved mags, whether Sterling, MP5, or PPS, would work and look better.
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Posted: 2/19/2015 12:54:16 PM EDT
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Just so we can all be on the so we can all be on the same page here
1 . We have not promised anything other than we are working with 2 different firms on the AK 9MM project, we have not taken orders , promised a date or anything just to avoid the comments that are now starting . 2 . We have in fact asked for input from customers and provided that to the 2 company's working on the designs , there is no reason to be nasty if your idea is not what if finally built we do appreciate all reasonable & polite input and this may be Incorporated in other future offerings. 3 . Atlantic does in fact have a production wing of the firm Atlantic Arms MFG for our own series and we do occasionally have contract builds done by firm like Krebs Customs , Definitive Arms etc 4 . To be clear the AK 9 is not being made by Atlantic however we are working very close with the firms to assist with testing and other to help facilitate the project. 5 . The 9 mm AK has no affiliation with Petranov so it would be good if posters do not post false info from their not so reliable sources, that only leads to mis information. 6 . We have specifically have not released other details on the gun so we could avoid the You promised me Syndrome , we thought it would be better to offer all of the firm and final , pictures , specs and prices once the guns were in final production. 7. The AKX 9 has been designed from the ground up with all new dedicated AKX 9 parts , the only thing that is off the shelf is the receivers , they are not built using cobbled together surplus parts and will be made by a well known Top Tier builder . 8 . The AKX 9 pistol is done the rifles should be complete in the next 1 -2 weeks and at that time we will show the guns etc We appreciate the interest and input !!! |
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Posted: 2/19/2015 1:38:10 PM EDT
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Thanks Atlantic, I was close to locking this thread as it was no longer productive and was turning into a GD beat down thread.
Please keep all further posts technical in nature and don't hesitate to offer suggestions or wish list items. |
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Posted: 2/19/2015 3:05:04 PM EDT
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I "wish" for a fatter wallet when this gets released! HK mags and forward cant stick mags will make the difference IMO but will be excited even if I have to stuff a Stick straight up in it!
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Posted: 2/19/2015 3:29:51 PM EDT
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Just so we can all be on the so we can all be on the same page here 1 . We have not promised anything other than we are working with 2 different firms on the AK 9MM project, we have not taken orders , promised a date or anything just to avoid the comments that are now starting . 2 . We have in fact asked for input from customers and provided that to the 2 company's working on the designs , there is no reason to be nasty if your idea is not what if finally built we do appreciate all reasonable & polite input and this may be Incorporated in other future offerings. 3 . Atlantic does in fact have a production wing of the firm Atlantic Arms MFG for our own series and we do occasionally have contract builds done by firm like Krebs Customs , Definitive Arms etc 4 . To be clear the AK 9 is not being made by Atlantic however we are working very close with the firms to assist with testing and other to help facilitate the project. 5 . The 9 mm AK has no affiliation with Petranov so it would be good if posters do not post false info from their not so reliable sources, that only leads to mis information. 6 . We have specifically have not released other details on the gun so we could avoid the You promised me Syndrome , we thought it would be better to offer all of the firm and final , pictures , specs and prices once the guns were in final production. 7. The AKX 9 has been designed from the ground up with all new dedicated AKX 9 parts , the only thing that is off the shelf is the receivers , they are not built using cobbled together surplus parts and will be made by a well known Top Tier builder . 8 . The AKX 9 pistol is done the rifles should be complete in the next 1 -2 weeks and at that time we will show the guns etc We appreciate the interest and input !!! Thanks for responding. I look forward to seeing the final product. 9mm AK/Vityaz clone is something that many of us have waited a long time for, so it is nice that we'll at least have one variant on the market. |
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Posted: 2/19/2015 6:18:39 PM EDT
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thanks for the heads up.. Super excited for this if everything works out.
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Posted: 2/19/2015 6:54:13 PM EDT
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I heard from a semi reliable source that these are being made by Petronov something or other, which is Lancaster's new name. Buyer beware! Petronov Arms is not Lancaster Arms. Pentronov Arms purchased Lancaster Arms from the guy who caused all the issues with Lancaster, (Chuck somebody?). Totally new company. Might be using the same tools, and be in the same state, but that's about the extent of the similarity between the two companies. ETA- just saw Atlantic's response. Thanks for the information. Cant wait. |
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Posted: 2/19/2015 8:44:43 PM EDT
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Just so we can all be on the so we can all be on the same page here 1 . We have not promised anything other than we are working with 2 different firms on the AK 9MM project, we have not taken orders , promised a date or anything just to avoid the comments that are now starting . 2 . We have in fact asked for input from customers and provided that to the 2 company's working on the designs , there is no reason to be nasty if your idea is not what if finally built we do appreciate all reasonable & polite input and this may be Incorporated in other future offerings. 3 . Atlantic does in fact have a production wing of the firm Atlantic Arms MFG for our own series and we do occasionally have contract builds done by firm like Krebs Customs , Definitive Arms etc 4 . To be clear the AK 9 is not being made by Atlantic however we are working very close with the firms to assist with testing and other to help facilitate the project. 5 . The 9 mm AK has no affiliation with Petranov so it would be good if posters do not post false info from their not so reliable sources, that only leads to mis information. 6 . We have specifically have not released other details on the gun so we could avoid the You promised me Syndrome , we thought it would be better to offer all of the firm and final , pictures , specs and prices once the guns were in final production. 7. The AKX 9 has been designed from the ground up with all new dedicated AKX 9 parts , the only thing that is off the shelf is the receivers , they are not built using cobbled together surplus parts and will be made by a well known Top Tier builder . 8 . The AKX 9 pistol is done the rifles should be complete in the next 1 -2 weeks and at that time we will show the guns etc We appreciate the interest and input !!! Can you disclose the threads on the muzzle? |
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Posted: 2/20/2015 12:59:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Petronov Arms is not Lancaster Arms. Pentronov Arms purchased Lancaster Arms from the guy who caused all the issues with Lancaster, (Chuck somebody?). Totally new company. Might be using the same tools, and be in the same state, but that's about the extent of the similarity between the two companies. ETA- just saw Atlantic's response. Thanks for the information. Cant wait. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I heard from a semi reliable source that these are being made by Petronov something or other, which is Lancaster's new name. Buyer beware! Petronov Arms is not Lancaster Arms. Pentronov Arms purchased Lancaster Arms from the guy who caused all the issues with Lancaster, (Chuck somebody?). Totally new company. Might be using the same tools, and be in the same state, but that's about the extent of the similarity between the two companies. ETA- just saw Atlantic's response. Thanks for the information. Cant wait. http://www.akfiles.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1730261&postcount=111 |
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Posted: 2/20/2015 1:00:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just so we can all be on the so we can all be on the same page here 1 . We have not promised anything other than we are working with 2 different firms on the AK 9MM project, we have not taken orders , promised a date or anything just to avoid the comments that are now starting . 2 . We have in fact asked for input from customers and provided that to the 2 company's working on the designs , there is no reason to be nasty if your idea is not what if finally built we do appreciate all reasonable & polite input and this may be Incorporated in other future offerings. 3 . Atlantic does in fact have a production wing of the firm Atlantic Arms MFG for our own series and we do occasionally have contract builds done by firm like Krebs Customs , Definitive Arms etc 4 . To be clear the AK 9 is not being made by Atlantic however we are working very close with the firms to assist with testing and other to help facilitate the project. 5 . The 9 mm AK has no affiliation with Petranov so it would be good if posters do not post false info from their not so reliable sources, that only leads to mis information. 6 . We have specifically have not released other details on the gun so we could avoid the You promised me Syndrome , we thought it would be better to offer all of the firm and final , pictures , specs and prices once the guns were in final production. 7. The AKX 9 has been designed from the ground up with all new dedicated AKX 9 parts , the only thing that is off the shelf is the receivers , they are not built using cobbled together surplus parts and will be made by a well known Top Tier builder . 8 . The AKX 9 pistol is done the rifles should be complete in the next 1 -2 weeks and at that time we will show the guns etc We appreciate the interest and input !!! |
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Posted: 2/20/2015 1:13:36 AM EDT
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I heard from a semi reliable source that these are being made by Petronov something or other, which is Lancaster's new name. Buyer beware! Petronov Arms is not Lancaster Arms. Pentronov Arms purchased Lancaster Arms from the guy who caused all the issues with Lancaster, (Chuck somebody?). Totally new company. Might be using the same tools, and be in the same state, but that's about the extent of the similarity between the two companies. ETA- just saw Atlantic's response. Thanks for the information. Cant wait. http://www.akfiles.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1730261&postcount=111 I don't know if you meant to dispute what I posted with the link, but I'm not seeing where it does dispute what I posted. Additionally, that post was from 2013 when Petronov bought Lancaster Arms. I'm not trying to stand up for Petronov Arms, I don't own one of their weapons, nor do I have a personal relationship with Anthony Petronov. I've emailed him a few times, and he's responded. I don't want to derail this thread further, but if you do have additional information showing where I'm incorrect, please IM me so that I'm not missing what's actually going on. Seriously, please. Thanks. |
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Posted: 2/20/2015 8:54:01 AM EDT
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I guess I don't see the point given that 7.62x39 & 9mm are the same price & readily available. But to each their own. I'm sure it'll be fun to shoot
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Posted: 2/20/2015 1:22:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I guess I don't see the point given that 7.62x39 & 9mm are the same price & readily available. But to each their own. I'm sure it'll be fun to shoot |
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Posted: 2/21/2015 1:34:33 PM EDT
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Mustangduckk , yes the guns are designed for customers that want to use a 9mm suppressor & are threaded 1/2 x 28 , The guns were tested with a suppressor early in the Development stage .
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Posted: 2/21/2015 6:02:47 PM EDT
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Mustangduckk , yes the guns are designed for customers that want to use a 9mm suppressor & are threaded 1/2 x 28 , The guns were tested with a suppressor early in the Development stage . Cool thanks! |
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Posted: 2/21/2015 6:48:26 PM EDT
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Very much looking forward to it, thanks Atlantic
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Posted: 2/21/2015 9:21:17 PM EDT
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Atlantic,
Please sell CA compliant versions? If not too much too ask, please let the magazine locks be easily removable, for the time when we leave this darn state ... Thanks. |
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Posted: 2/21/2015 10:40:09 PM EDT
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I sure hope you guys went with the Arsenal krink styling basically a true krink clone with long barrel etc you will sell a crap ton. If they are full size AK clones in 9mm they will still sell but I don't think near as well. I'd buy at least 2 if they were krinks but probly won't if they are full size guns i just don't see the point..market wants compact sub gun style PCC's
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Posted: 2/21/2015 11:07:40 PM EDT
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They are trying to be similar to the Russian 9 mm gun in size and those are not a Krink . The barrel will be approx 10.5 inches so it is a good combo length for customers that want a pistol or want a SBR .
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Posted: 2/22/2015 1:28:50 PM EDT
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Here are a few pics that the gunsmiths just sent over of the AKX-9 in early production phases
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Posted: 2/22/2015 1:29:06 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/22/2015 1:30:11 PM EDT
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