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Posted: 12/4/2014 11:56:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Price to be released the day it goes live per our agreement with AK Operators Union. There you go again.   I will nudge Rob to see if we might be able to release the pricing a little sooner. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Ok and what price? Price to be released the day it goes live per our agreement with AK Operators Union. There you go again. I will nudge Rob to see if we might be able to release the pricing a little sooner. |
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Posted: 12/5/2014 12:12:33 AM EDT
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Thanks now take my money.
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Posted: 12/5/2014 11:54:57 AM EDT
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I might have missed it - an extended version in the works? If so - does it retain the sling loop? Yes and Yes, was just working on it yesterday. Extended version requires no mods to the gun- drop on and go. |
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Posted: 12/5/2014 12:27:44 PM EDT
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Honestly the current WASR 10's seem to be pretty solid, and a good deal at under $600. Otherwise you can go balls out and get an Aresenal SLR-107 with the 4.5mm pin sidefoldeing stock, and we should have a kickass stock solution out with Circle 10 AK fairly soon 
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Make these in M LOK please I won't lie, the M-LOK slots are freaky long and look like ass on, well, pretty much anything that isn't a 13"+ AR forend, but we'll make them because people want them. Seriously, that is how much I love you guys, I will sacrifice my aesthetic ideals just so you can get the function you want. 
Between this (m-lok version) and geissele doing an AK trigger, I think I need to buy my first AK. Suggestions? Honestly the current WASR 10's seem to be pretty solid, and a good deal at under $600. Otherwise you can go balls out and get an Aresenal SLR-107 with the 4.5mm pin sidefoldeing stock, and we should have a kickass stock solution out with Circle 10 AK fairly soon
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Posted: 12/5/2014 1:52:10 PM EDT
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Make these in M LOK please I won't lie, the M-LOK slots are freaky long and look like ass on, well, pretty much anything that isn't a 13"+ AR forend, but we'll make them because people want them. Seriously, that is how much I love you guys, I will sacrifice my aesthetic ideals just so you can get the function you want.
Between this (m-lok version) and geissele doing an AK trigger, I think I need to buy my first AK. Suggestions? Honestly the current WASR 10's seem to be pretty solid, and a good deal at under $600. Otherwise you can go balls out and get an Aresenal SLR-107 with the 4.5mm pin sidefoldeing stock, and we should have a kickass stock solution out with Circle 10 AK fairly soon
Can you expand on this "stock solution"? The "stock solution" will allow you to mount an M4 type adjustable stock and also fold it completely flush against the side of the gun, even if it has a scope rail. Also can store your cleaning kit in it. 
It is already designed, just working out the machining of it right now, it is a little tricky to do! |
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Posted: 12/5/2014 1:57:54 PM EDT
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Will this work on the SAM7k?
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Posted: 12/5/2014 2:02:06 PM EDT
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Will this work on the SAM7k? The SAM7K is a Krink (and a milled on to boot) so the forend won't work, and the stock wouldn't work either. That being said, we are working on versions of the handguard for most all of the AK variants. Will just take a little time to launch them all. |
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Posted: 12/5/2014 4:46:54 PM EDT
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Any pics of the extended version? Pretty please??
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Posted: 12/5/2014 5:11:17 PM EDT
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I hope the extended version fits around the end of a 107CR.
Either way, great looking product. |
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Posted: 12/5/2014 5:26:22 PM EDT
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I hope the extended version fits around the end of a 107CR. Either way, great looking product. It will, or rather, we have a clever solution for that.
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Posted: 12/5/2014 5:27:12 PM EDT
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Any pics of the extended version? Pretty please?? No pics yett, still some development of the design going on and we don't want to give all our tricks away just yet.
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Posted: 12/5/2014 5:57:28 PM EDT
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No pics yett, still some development of the design going on and we don't want to give all our tricks away just yet. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Any pics of the extended version? Pretty please?? No pics yett, still some development of the design going on and we don't want to give all our tricks away just yet. Something similar in theory to the zenit extended rail would kick ass - also needs to allow use of factory gas tube/hg |
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Posted: 12/5/2014 6:30:44 PM EDT
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I hope the extended version fits around the end of a 107CR. Either way, great looking product. It will, or rather, we have a clever solution for that. Be pretty easy to do an extended version for a Vepr, already has a mount point on the bottom.
ETA: easy to put a top on too, as the factory gas tube is bare. I wouldn't go all the way to the gas block with the bottom as the factory handguard does, looks much better about an inch shorter, just past the handguard mount point. 
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Posted: 12/5/2014 7:22:52 PM EDT
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Any pics of the extended version? Pretty please?? No pics yett, still some development of the design going on and we don't want to give all our tricks away just yet. Something similar in theory to the zenit extended rail would kick ass - also needs to allow use of factory gas tube/hg Just like our standard length version, the extended version allows for use of the factory gas tube. |
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Posted: 12/5/2014 7:23:28 PM EDT
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Be pretty easy to do an extended version for a Vepr, already has a mount point on the bottom.
ETA: easy to put a top on too, as the factory gas tube is bare. I wouldn't go all the way to the gas block with the bottom as the factory handguard does, looks much better about an inch shorter, just past the handguard mount point. http://oi59.tinypic.com/2mfki69.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I hope the extended version fits around the end of a 107CR. Either way, great looking product. It will, or rather, we have a clever solution for that. Be pretty easy to do an extended version for a Vepr, already has a mount point on the bottom.
ETA: easy to put a top on too, as the factory gas tube is bare. I wouldn't go all the way to the gas block with the bottom as the factory handguard does, looks much better about an inch shorter, just past the handguard mount point. http://oi59.tinypic.com/2mfki69.jpg Is that your VEPR? What is the barrel diameter in front of the gas block? |
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Posted: 12/5/2014 11:44:57 PM EDT
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So is there also going to be railed handguards for AKS74U krinks?
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Posted: 12/5/2014 11:48:42 PM EDT
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The "stock solution" will allow you to mount an M4 type adjustable stock and also fold it completely flush against the side of the gun, even if it has a scope rail. Also can store your cleaning kit in it.
It is already designed, just working out the machining of it right now, it is a little tricky to do! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Honestly the current WASR 10's seem to be pretty solid, and a good deal at under $600. Otherwise you can go balls out and get an Aresenal SLR-107 with the 4.5mm pin sidefoldeing stock, and we should have a kickass stock solution out with Circle 10 AK fairly soon
Can you expand on this "stock solution"? The "stock solution" will allow you to mount an M4 type adjustable stock and also fold it completely flush against the side of the gun, even if it has a scope rail. Also can store your cleaning kit in it.
It is already designed, just working out the machining of it right now, it is a little tricky to do! Also, how is this possible? AR stocks are too fat to fold flush against the receiver? Either ways, you guys are awesome for making these amazing products. 
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Posted: 12/6/2014 12:15:16 AM EDT
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Also, how is this possible? AR stocks are too fat to fold flush against the receiver? Either ways, you guys are awesome for making these amazing products.
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Honestly the current WASR 10's seem to be pretty solid, and a good deal at under $600. Otherwise you can go balls out and get an Aresenal SLR-107 with the 4.5mm pin sidefoldeing stock, and we should have a kickass stock solution out with Circle 10 AK fairly soon
Can you expand on this "stock solution"? The "stock solution" will allow you to mount an M4 type adjustable stock and also fold it completely flush against the side of the gun, even if it has a scope rail. Also can store your cleaning kit in it.
It is already designed, just working out the machining of it right now, it is a little tricky to do! Also, how is this possible? AR stocks are too fat to fold flush against the receiver? Either ways, you guys are awesome for making these amazing products.
I'm assuming the "stock solution" will be a drop in part for the SLR107 hinges? |
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Posted: 12/6/2014 1:33:42 AM EDT
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Honestly the current WASR 10's seem to be pretty solid, and a good deal at under $600. Otherwise you can go balls out and get an Aresenal SLR-107 with the 4.5mm pin sidefoldeing stock, and we should have a kickass stock solution out with Circle 10 AK fairly soon
Can you expand on this "stock solution"? The "stock solution" will allow you to mount an M4 type adjustable stock and also fold it completely flush against the side of the gun, even if it has a scope rail. Also can store your cleaning kit in it.
It is already designed, just working out the machining of it right now, it is a little tricky to do! Also, how is this possible? AR stocks are too fat to fold flush against the receiver? Either ways, you guys are awesome for making these amazing products.
I'm assuming the "stock solution" will be a drop in part for the SLR107 hinges? Yes. I am a big believer in plug and play parts, and not in modifying the original gun if at all possible. |
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Posted: 12/6/2014 1:34:47 AM EDT
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Also, how is this possible? AR stocks are too fat to fold flush against the receiver? Either ways, you guys are awesome for making these amazing products.
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Honestly the current WASR 10's seem to be pretty solid, and a good deal at under $600. Otherwise you can go balls out and get an Aresenal SLR-107 with the 4.5mm pin sidefoldeing stock, and we should have a kickass stock solution out with Circle 10 AK fairly soon
Can you expand on this "stock solution"? The "stock solution" will allow you to mount an M4 type adjustable stock and also fold it completely flush against the side of the gun, even if it has a scope rail. Also can store your cleaning kit in it.
It is already designed, just working out the machining of it right now, it is a little tricky to do! Also, how is this possible? AR stocks are too fat to fold flush against the receiver? Either ways, you guys are awesome for making these amazing products.
Clever design and maybe some black magic and/or warping of time and space.
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Posted: 12/6/2014 1:35:05 AM EDT
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So is there also going to be railed handguards for AKS74U krinks? Maaaaaaaybe....
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Posted: 12/6/2014 1:36:07 AM EDT
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I hope the extended version fits around the end of a 107CR. Either way, great looking product. It will, or rather, we have a clever solution for that. Do you want cash, card, or a dinner date? Tech discussion: I'm sure like me, many of us AK owners are happy to see companies trying to be innovative and striving to move forward with new products. I've had the nightbrake on my SBR 107CR for over a year now I believe, quality piece. |
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Posted: 12/7/2014 2:17:29 AM EDT
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What about a top cover rail like the Zenit? Now that you have the keymod attachment points on the lower handguard, you could cook up something like the B-33 rail that AK Operator's Union reviewed from ZenitCo. Thoughts?
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Posted: 12/7/2014 2:54:07 AM EDT
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What about a top cover rail like the Zenit? Now that you have the keymod attachment points on the lower handguard, you could cook up something like the B-33 rail that AK Operator's Union reviewed from ZenitCo. Thoughts? Gosh, never thought of those ideas...
I will simply say there are all sorts of very interesting prototypes on my desk in the shop- what I have shown so far is only the tip of the iceberg.
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Posted: 12/7/2014 12:48:35 PM EDT
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I hope you all are going to make one for the arsenal krink, 107 UR. I would be forced to give you my money if that was the case.
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Posted: 12/7/2014 1:35:53 PM EDT
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barf
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Posted: 12/7/2014 2:01:08 PM EDT
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barf but I'm a traditionalist when it comes to AKs Totally understand, not everyone will like every product. I still think we did a good job of making it look more like a traditional AK hanguard with a good blend at the receiver end, instead of just slapping an extrusion on the front of the gun and calling it good like most every other company has. |
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Posted: 12/7/2014 4:20:34 PM EDT
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I still think we did a good job of making it look more like a traditional AK hanguard with a good blend at the receiver end, instead of just slapping an extrusion on the front of the gun and calling it good like most every other company has. Quoted for mf'ing hallelujah-somebody-actually-gets-it TRUTH! I'm gonna buy one just because you posted that.
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Posted: 12/7/2014 4:38:02 PM EDT
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Will it come in wood color
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Posted: 12/7/2014 8:01:13 PM EDT
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barf but I'm a traditionalist when it comes to AKs Cool story, Homes.
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Posted: 12/9/2014 1:08:01 PM EDT
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Building a Romy right now so I'll be awaiting the release of the ARC-loc... Really liking the co-witness with the Micro.
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Posted: 12/9/2014 2:50:23 PM EDT
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Sven, you're in the middle of a positive feedback loop that will do a lot of good to the AK. We salute you.
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Posted: 12/10/2014 2:50:48 PM EDT
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Top covers are coming of the mill in production numbers as of today.
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Posted: 12/10/2014 4:07:45 PM EDT
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Is the 20th still the big day?
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Posted: 12/10/2014 5:04:23 PM EDT
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put my money where my mouth is - bought my first AK this morning
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Posted: 12/10/2014 5:22:13 PM EDT
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Is the 20th still the big day? Yes. I just asked Rob Ski if we can release pricing so people can set their money aside. If I don't hear back from him this evening I may just ask forgiveness instead of permission.
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Posted: 12/10/2014 5:39:02 PM EDT
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OK, since everyone asks, here you go (Mods if you don't want pricing in this thread let me know!)
MA-11275 ALFA RAIL keymod lower handguard: MSRP $119 MA-11285 ALFA RAIL superlow picatinny top cover MSRP $79 |
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Posted: 12/10/2014 9:59:38 PM EDT
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nice.
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Posted: 12/10/2014 10:28:53 PM EDT
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Very nice. I was thinking higher.......cant wait to dremel one into my milled bugly!
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Posted: 12/11/2014 1:16:08 AM EDT
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nice. eta on the long one? No ETA yet...let's just get the standard length one launched first and then let me get a few hours of sleep first, OK?
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Posted: 12/11/2014 1:18:22 AM EDT
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Very nice. I was thinking higher.......cant wait to dremel one into my milled bugly! We really had to sharpen the pencil to get to those prices, especially considering they are machined from solid billets and 100% made in the USA (A lot of the cheaper ones are made overseas, and almost everyone else is using extrusions) but I insist on a good looking and good functioning product, and that it is 100% made here in the USA.
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Posted: 12/11/2014 5:27:56 PM EDT
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Top covers are coming of the mill in production numbers as of today.
<a href="http://s131.photobucket.com/user/Dawg180/media/MA-11200complete.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p296/Dawg180/MA-11200complete.jpg</a> I have AKAIE right now, i'll be in my bunk.
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Posted: 12/12/2014 12:29:39 PM EDT
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Will this be compatible with Ultimak Scout Mounts? If so than this is definitely happening!
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Posted: 12/12/2014 1:30:54 PM EDT
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Will this be compatible with Ultimak Scout Mounts? If so than this is definitely happening! From the very first post in this thread: Manticore Arms and AK Operators Union Local 47-74 have worked in collaborative project to come up with the MA-11200 Keymod forend, known also as the "ALFA RAIL"
It is made of a billet of 6061 T6 aluminum, weighs 3.6 ounces, and has the ability to mount an optional aluminum superlow picatinny rail top cover, or even work with your standard upper handguard or an Ultimak gas tube. Keymod is located on five sides, and you can even still mount your cleaning rod under the barrel! Release will be right before Christmas, we are cranking them out on the machines right now. |
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Posted: 12/12/2014 1:41:00 PM EDT
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Awesome!
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Posted: 12/13/2014 12:52:46 AM EDT
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Top covers are coming of the mill in production numbers as of today.
<a href="http://s131.photobucket.com/user/Dawg180/media/MA-11200complete.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p296/Dawg180/MA-11200complete.jpg</a> Wondering if an AMD-65 style gas tube would look good since the upper handguard retainers wouldn't be needed with the new upper handguard on this... |
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Posted: 12/13/2014 1:10:48 AM EDT
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Wondering if an AMD-65 style gas tube would look good since the upper handguard retainers wouldn't be needed with the new upper handguard on this... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Top covers are coming of the mill in production numbers as of today.
<a href="http://s131.photobucket.com/user/Dawg180/media/MA-11200complete.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p296/Dawg180/MA-11200complete.jpg</a> Wondering if an AMD-65 style gas tube would look good since the upper handguard retainers wouldn't be needed with the new upper handguard on this... That is actually kind of a cool idea, expect that the AMD-65 gas tube is not a standard AK length gas tube as far as I am aware(?) |
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Posted: 12/13/2014 1:28:30 AM EDT
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Top covers are coming of the mill in production numbers as of today.
<a href="http://s131.photobucket.com/user/Dawg180/media/MA-11200complete.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p296/Dawg180/MA-11200complete.jpg</a> Wondering if an AMD-65 style gas tube would look good since the upper handguard retainers wouldn't be needed with the new upper handguard on this... That is actually kind of a cool idea, expect that the AMD-65 gas tube is not a standard AK length gas tube as far as I am aware(?) Yeah I think it is shorter. A gas tube from an unconverted Saiga would be the answer. |
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Posted: 12/13/2014 2:06:18 AM EDT
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Top covers are coming of the mill in production numbers as of today.
<a href="http://s131.photobucket.com/user/Dawg180/media/MA-11200complete.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p296/Dawg180/MA-11200complete.jpg</a> Wondering if an AMD-65 style gas tube would look good since the upper handguard retainers wouldn't be needed with the new upper handguard on this... That is actually kind of a cool idea, expect that the AMD-65 gas tube is not a standard AK length gas tube as far as I am aware(?) Yeah I think it is shorter. A gas tube from an unconverted Saiga would be the answer. good to know.  I'll be keeping an eye out for one now.
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Posted: 12/19/2014 11:50:38 AM EDT
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ALFA RAIL keymod lower forends go LIVE on the website in less than 24 hours!
Superlow Picatinny Top Covers have gone to anodizing, and should be available early in January.
Sven Manticore Arms |
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