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Posted: 11/10/2014 2:44:42 PM EDT
Manticore Arms and AK Operators Union Local 47-74 have worked in collaborative project to come up with the MA-11200 Keymod forend, known also as the "ALFA RAIL"
It is made of a billet of 6061 T6 aluminum, weighs 3.6 ounces, and has the ability to mount an optional aluminum superlow picatinny rail top cover, or even work with your standard upper handguard or an Ultimak gas tube. Keymod is located on five sides, and you can even still mount your cleaning rod under the barrel! Release will be right before Christmas, we are cranking them out on the machines right now. 
Sven Manticore Arms 
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Posted: 11/10/2014 2:53:22 PM EDT
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Very, very interesting. Guess I'm going to have to get one more AK.
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Posted: 11/10/2014 3:17:25 PM EDT
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Will the final model have smoothed corners?
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Posted: 11/10/2014 3:40:17 PM EDT
[#3]
Love it. Will this fit milled receivers as well? Im hoping so, a few companies have put out handguards that fit both stamped and milled, it makes sense. :::fingers crossed::::
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Posted: 11/10/2014 4:33:29 PM EDT
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Will the final model have smoothed corners? And will they be chromed or matte black? |
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Posted: 11/10/2014 5:25:42 PM EDT
[#5]
I really can't stand keymod, but that piece looks NICE!
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Posted: 11/10/2014 5:26:18 PM EDT
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And will they be chromed or matte black? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Will the final model have smoothed corners? And will they be chromed or matte black? Lol, it's not chromed. It's just in the white. |
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Posted: 11/10/2014 5:26:44 PM EDT
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Will the final model have smoothed corners? I hope not, i'm digging the angular look. |
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Posted: 11/10/2014 6:29:51 PM EDT
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this might be needed for the Draco.
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Posted: 11/10/2014 6:34:15 PM EDT
[#9]
Sweet, but it's missing some sort of full railed top cover that attaches to that thing.
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Posted: 11/10/2014 7:05:11 PM EDT
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Sweet, but it's missing some sort of full railed top cover that attaches to that thing. Read the second sentence. |
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Posted: 11/10/2014 7:10:09 PM EDT
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And best of all, it actually fits the receiver fully, unlike so much of the junk I see with the ridiculous gaps in the corners.
ETA: Love to see one that didn't have the keymod holes, just solid actually would be awesome. |
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Posted: 11/10/2014 7:25:35 PM EDT
[#12]
Looks nice. Curious to see what price it comes in at.
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Posted: 11/10/2014 7:44:03 PM EDT
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I like it, but would prefer some chamfering/radius on those corners. I'm sure it's fine when rails are attached, but the point of the Keymod is to avoid rails altogether. Overall, the fit looks great, keep up the good work. I'd love that on an SBR Draco.
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Posted: 11/10/2014 7:58:49 PM EDT
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Probably not for me but I applaud you guys! Nice work.
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Posted: 11/10/2014 8:51:15 PM EDT
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FYI, the part you see is straight off the mill. All the corners are actually chamfered already (hard to see when it is in the white) but on top of that It will be tumbled to soften the corners and then anodized black.
We will be offering them in Keymod initially, then likely some in ARC LOK and possibly even M-LOK (the M-LOK slots do not lend themselves well to , well, anything that isn't stupid long, but if there is demand...) We will release pricing when we are a bit closer to public launch, but I will simply say for the moment what you see will be below $150. |
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Posted: 11/10/2014 9:36:13 PM EDT
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Love it. Will this fit milled receivers as well? Im hoping so, a few companies have put out handguards that fit both stamped and milled, it makes sense. :::fingers crossed:::: ?? |
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Posted: 11/10/2014 9:41:29 PM EDT
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Love it. Will this fit milled receivers as well? Im hoping so, a few companies have put out handguards that fit both stamped and milled, it makes sense. :::fingers crossed:::: ?? It should fit with modification of the rear lug. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 11/10/2014 9:42:37 PM EDT
[#18]
YES.
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Posted: 11/10/2014 10:33:51 PM EDT
[#19]
Looks good!
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Posted: 11/10/2014 11:11:18 PM EDT
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It should fit with modification of the rear lug. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Love it. Will this fit milled receivers as well? Im hoping so, a few companies have put out handguards that fit both stamped and milled, it makes sense. :::fingers crossed:::: ?? It should fit with modification of the rear lug. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile good deal.........5 min with the dremel........ill be in for one |
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Posted: 11/11/2014 12:35:04 PM EDT
[#21]
I will be in for 1 or maybe 2.
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Posted: 11/11/2014 1:31:13 PM EDT
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What about milling a small slot on the bottom so that you can run a sling through the rear triangular holes and out the bottom like on the Zenit B10?
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Posted: 11/11/2014 1:40:32 PM EDT
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What about milling a small slot on the bottom so that you can run a sling through the rear triangular holes and out the bottom like on the Zenit B10? Interesting idea, but the first run is already close to done. Maybe on the next batch. 
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Posted: 11/11/2014 7:48:55 PM EDT
[#24]
Looks sweet. I wonder how it'll look with the top cover...
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Posted: 11/11/2014 7:54:15 PM EDT
[#25]
Would this work with a Vepr 7.62 AK
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Posted: 11/11/2014 8:02:58 PM EDT
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As always Manticore hits it out of the park.
Have you guys ever put any thought into making a railed dust cover? |
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Posted: 11/11/2014 8:40:24 PM EDT
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A M92 model would be awesome. If it would work with my Ultimak. My 107 might need one of these as well. Keep up the good work I love my triangle folder.
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Posted: 11/11/2014 9:29:18 PM EDT
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A M92 model would be awesome. +Infinity |
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Posted: 11/12/2014 11:02:01 AM EDT
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Very excited to see these in person!
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Posted: 11/12/2014 11:30:44 AM EDT
[#30]
Looks great. How much does it weigh?
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Posted: 11/12/2014 2:10:35 PM EDT
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Looks great. How much does it weigh? Looks like its 3.6 ounces to me
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Posted: 11/12/2014 3:24:09 PM EDT
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yea....If I was guessing I would put it exactly at 3.6 ounces.......If you divide the number of keymod slots by 50, then multiply it by how many straight edges the rail has, it comes to 3.6......that equation usually works for all rails
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Posted: 11/12/2014 5:11:12 PM EDT
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Can I just send you a check right now?
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Posted: 11/12/2014 6:48:25 PM EDT
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yea....If I was guessing I would put it exactly at 3.6 ounces.......If you divide the number of keymod slots by 50, then multiply it by how many straight edges the rail has, it comes to 3.6......that equation usually works for all rails Someone out there somewhere is trying this right now. 
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Posted: 11/12/2014 9:05:45 PM EDT
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Great job guys. Now I need to resit the urge to buy a second AK. Thanks a lot......
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Posted: 11/13/2014 2:14:44 AM EDT
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Nice going y'all! I think this would be great on my Arsneal.
Rog |
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Posted: 11/14/2014 6:01:54 PM EDT
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Cranking them out on the machines feverishly right now!
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Posted: 11/14/2014 6:10:06 PM EDT
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Cranking them out on the machines feverishly right now! looking at ordering a few accessories over the weekend and if I plan on getting your HG, then I will want to order keymod versions instead of 1913. I know you stated these were designed for stamped receivers, and I have milled, but other then shaving the rear tab down until it fits in my receiver it mounts like any other HG right? (shove in the receiver, use HG retainer upfront to lock in place) Does it use any clamps / screws for its mounting? |
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Posted: 11/14/2014 9:04:19 PM EDT
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Make these in M LOK please
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Posted: 11/15/2014 1:52:52 AM EDT
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Make these in M LOK please I won't lie, the M-LOK slots are freaky long and look like ass on, well, pretty much anything that isn't a 13"+ AR forend, but we'll make them because people want them. Seriously, that is how much I love you guys, I will sacrifice my aesthetic ideals just so you can get the function you want. 
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Posted: 11/15/2014 2:19:17 AM EDT
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just when i thought i was done spending lol
nice job will keep an eye on this |
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Posted: 11/15/2014 2:55:59 AM EDT
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Shut up and take my money!
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Posted: 11/15/2014 5:50:47 AM EDT
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I won't lie, the M-LOK slots are freaky long and look like ass on, well, pretty much anything that isn't a 13"+ AR forend, but we'll make them because people want them. Seriously, that is how much I love you guys, I will sacrifice my aesthetic ideals just so you can get the function you want.
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Make these in M LOK please I won't lie, the M-LOK slots are freaky long and look like ass on, well, pretty much anything that isn't a 13"+ AR forend, but we'll make them because people want them. Seriously, that is how much I love you guys, I will sacrifice my aesthetic ideals just so you can get the function you want.
Time to work on an extended handguard!
Frankly, I like the M-LOK system over Keymod. Keymod just...sucks. |
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Posted: 11/15/2014 8:54:33 AM EDT
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Amazing how again, my legit question as a potential customer gets over looked and the guys tiny "make an M-lok" comment below me gets answered. Maybe I will have better luck asking Rob Ski
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Posted: 11/15/2014 9:48:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Amazing how again, my legit question as a potential customer gets over looked and the guys tiny "make an M-lok" comment below me gets answered. Maybe I will have better luck asking Rob Ski |
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Posted: 11/15/2014 11:28:41 AM EDT
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how old are you? Pick up the phone and call the guys or email them directly..... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Amazing how again, my legit question as a potential customer gets over looked and the guys tiny "make an M-lok" comment below me gets answered. Maybe I will have better luck asking Rob Ski are you trying to hit on me? Im not old enough to drink......Email them the same question that was avoided in here, why didnt I think about that!?!?! Ive already have a message into AK operators union, but thanks for the suggestion |
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Posted: 11/15/2014 1:59:21 PM EDT
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looking at ordering a few accessories over the weekend and if I plan on getting your HG, then I will want to order keymod versions instead of 1913. I know you stated these were designed for stamped receivers, and I have milled, but other then shaving the rear tab down until it fits in my receiver it mounts like any other HG right? (shove in the receiver, use HG retainer upfront to lock in place) Does it use any clamps / screws for its mounting? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Cranking them out on the machines feverishly right now! looking at ordering a few accessories over the weekend and if I plan on getting your HG, then I will want to order keymod versions instead of 1913. I know you stated these were designed for stamped receivers, and I have milled, but other then shaving the rear tab down until it fits in my receiver it mounts like any other HG right? (shove in the receiver, use HG retainer upfront to lock in place) Does it use any clamps / screws for its mounting? Yes, you should hast have to modify the rear tab slightly to work on a milled receiver. |
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Posted: 11/15/2014 2:01:32 PM EDT
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Amazing how again, my legit question as a potential customer gets over looked and the guys tiny "make an M-lok" comment below me gets answered. Maybe I will have better luck asking Rob Ski This may be hard to believe, but I have A LOT of work to do every day, and sometimes, just sometimes, I miss a single question written in a post on a single internet forum, especially when I am responding AT MIDNIGHT and viewing the forum on my Iphone's tiny little screen...
it was nothing personal, and the answer is posted above- less than 24 hours after you asked it.
Also as an FYI these are not listed for sale yet, we are a few weeks out- that was mentioned in the first post. |
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Posted: 11/15/2014 2:19:03 PM EDT
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This may be hard to believe, but I have A LOT of work to do every day, and sometimes, just sometimes, I miss a single question written in a post on a single internet forum, especially when I am responding AT MIDNIGHT and viewing the forum on my Iphone's tiny little screen..
Also as an FYI these are not listed for sale yet, we are a few weeks out- that was mentioned in the first post. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Amazing how again, my legit question as a potential customer gets over looked and the guys tiny "make an M-lok" comment below me gets answered. Maybe I will have better luck asking Rob Ski This may be hard to believe, but I have A LOT of work to do every day, and sometimes, just sometimes, I miss a single question written in a post on a single internet forum, especially when I am responding AT MIDNIGHT and viewing the forum on my Iphone's tiny little screen..
Also as an FYI these are not listed for sale yet, we are a few weeks out- that was mentioned in the first post. Ahh sarcasm, ill play. Believe it or not, most companies who want to sell a product answer questions about the product. Instead, BOTH times i asked a legit question it went "overlooked" but you managed to engage in small talk. Oh, and FYI, I never said I wanted to buy this HG this weeked, I said I was buying accesories this weekend that would either be 1913 or Keymod depending on the answer to my question of this handguards compatability with my rifle (Which might I add you still did not answer). You confirmed I need to shave the rear tab, which I already stated myself and know, but did not answer if there were any clamps or screws involved in mounting or if it just mounts like a regular HG going into the receiver and the retainer up front to fasten it. Thanks for letting me know what was mentioned in the first post, it had absolutely nothing to do with what I was inquiring about.........oh yea, forgot the sarcastic winkey
ETA: I look forward to the release of this HG and plan on purchasing it
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Posted: 11/15/2014 3:12:22 PM EDT
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Ahh sarcasm, ill play. Believe it or not, most companies who want to sell a product answer questions about the product. Instead, BOTH times i asked a legit question it went "overlooked" but you managed to engage in small talk. Oh, and FYI, I never said I wanted to buy this HG this weeked, I said I was buying accesories this weekend that would either be 1913 or Keymod depending on the answer to my question of this handguards compatability with my rifle (Which might I add you still did not answer). You confirmed I need to shave the rear tab, which I already stated myself and know, but did not answer if there were any clamps or screws involved in mounting or if it just mounts like a regular HG going into the receiver and the retainer up front to fasten it. Thanks for letting me know what was mentioned in the first post, it had absolutely nothing to do with what I was inquiring about.........oh yea, forgot the sarcastic winkey Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Amazing how again, my legit question as a potential customer gets over looked and the guys tiny "make an M-lok" comment below me gets answered. Maybe I will have better luck asking Rob Ski This may be hard to believe, but I have A LOT of work to do every day, and sometimes, just sometimes, I miss a single question written in a post on a single internet forum, especially when I am responding AT MIDNIGHT and viewing the forum on my Iphone's tiny little screen..
Also as an FYI these are not listed for sale yet, we are a few weeks out- that was mentioned in the first post. Ahh sarcasm, ill play. Believe it or not, most companies who want to sell a product answer questions about the product. Instead, BOTH times i asked a legit question it went "overlooked" but you managed to engage in small talk. Oh, and FYI, I never said I wanted to buy this HG this weeked, I said I was buying accesories this weekend that would either be 1913 or Keymod depending on the answer to my question of this handguards compatability with my rifle (Which might I add you still did not answer). You confirmed I need to shave the rear tab, which I already stated myself and know, but did not answer if there were any clamps or screws involved in mounting or if it just mounts like a regular HG going into the receiver and the retainer up front to fasten it. Thanks for letting me know what was mentioned in the first post, it had absolutely nothing to do with what I was inquiring about.........oh yea, forgot the sarcastic winkey Take a chill pill, 'dude'. I'm pretty sure he answered your 'legit' question. You asked: but other then shaving shaving the rear tab down until it fits in my receiver it mounts like any other handguard right? Manticore answered: Yes, you should hast (just?) have to modify the rear tab slightly to work on a milled receiver. If it's as simple as shaving down the tab to make the stamped version fit the milled version, why would there be other methods of attaching? It has to mount keymod accessories. There's not enough room for both. You can also mount your cleaning rod, and use it with an Ultimak. Logic man, logic. ETA: Forgot my sarcastic winky face.
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