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Posted: 4/22/2014 12:14:34 PM EDT
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7n6 is about 21 cents.
Wolf .223 is about 29 cents. Wolf 5.45 is about 27 cents. |
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Posted: 4/22/2014 12:44:46 PM EDT
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ok thanks.
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Posted: 4/22/2014 1:04:20 PM EDT
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Yes, it's still worth it. I just bought 750 rounds of commercial 5.45 WPA for my AR at $0.25 a round. Still cheaper than .223 WPA at 0.27 a round and way cheaper than brass 5.56 at $0.35 a round (I don't reload yet). I like steel 5.45 over steel .223. More reliable extraction with the cartridge taper over the .223/5.56 and no worries about switching between steel and brass ammo and chamber fouling. During the panic, I could find 5.45 on the shelves at Academy whenever I wanted. There's also the .223/5.56 AK mag issue.
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Posted: 4/22/2014 1:08:52 PM EDT
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5.56/.223 still isn't any cheaper and mags are even more expensive and hard to find than 74 mags. Unless you are stocked up on .223 I wouldnt go that route.
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Posted: 4/22/2014 2:54:25 PM EDT
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5.56/.223 still isn't any cheaper and mags are even more expensive and hard to find than 74 mags. Unless you are stocked up on .223 I wouldnt go that route. +1 |
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Posted: 4/22/2014 3:47:03 PM EDT
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No, it's not worth it.
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Posted: 4/22/2014 4:09:31 PM EDT
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I bought some 7n6 for 19 cents a round at the end of last week.
I don't need any more. But I need more. Always more. (Message sent from 7n6 Mountain) |
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Posted: 4/22/2014 4:33:12 PM EDT
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Yes, it's still worth it. I just bought 750 rounds of commercial 5.45 WPA for my AR at $0.25 a round. Still cheaper than .223 WPA at 0.27 a round and way cheaper than brass 5.56 at $0.35 a round (I don't reload yet). I like steel 5.45 over steel .223. More reliable extraction with the cartridge taper over the .223/5.56 and no worries about switching between steel and brass ammo and chamber fouling. During the panic, I could find 5.45 on the shelves at Academy whenever I wanted. There's also the .223/5.56 AK mag issue. my $0.02 What issue is that? Just stick to Bulgy mags...they will last forever. |
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Posted: 4/22/2014 4:59:15 PM EDT
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No it isn't worth having one at all. In fact, I'm going to lug all my 5.45x39 AR's and AK's out my basement door, walk the 50 feet to my lake shore and throw all those rifle into the lake. Then I'm going to pull my wheel barrow up to the door and load my 15,000 rounds of 5.45x39 ammo up, load up my boat and sink it all to the bottom of the lake.
I actually sold two rifles in the caliber last week. Still have 3 rifles left and I enjoy the round. I have plenty of 7n6 but haven't shot any of it, I shoot commercial ammo. I think I'll sell all my 7n6 in about 5 years spend the profits on hookers. |
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Posted: 4/22/2014 5:00:11 PM EDT
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No, it's not worth it. Why? You running low on your stash? |
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Posted: 4/22/2014 5:29:35 PM EDT
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No, it's not worth it. Why? You running low on your stash? Nope, not at all. In fact, I bought a crate of 80's Bulgarian 7n6 from my local shop that had it priced at $320 out the door since it wasn't "the more expensive Russian stuff". I'm just going to make that my go to answer for these threads that have been popping up once a week since the ban since no one seems to actually be taking the advice that has been given a bunch of times already. This way that leaves more rifles/mags/accessories for me. If you want a '74, buy the f***ing '74 and quite bitching about it. I should note that the last part wasn't directed at the OP or anyone else specifically. |
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Posted: 4/22/2014 5:31:10 PM EDT
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No it isn't worth having one at all. In fact, I'm going to lug all my 5.45x39 AR's and AK's out my basement door, walk the 50 feet to my lake shore and throw all those rifle into the lake. Then I'm going to pull my wheel barrow up to the door and load my 15,000 rounds of 5.45x39 ammo up, load up my boat and sink it all to the bottom of the lake. I actually sold two rifles in the caliber last week. Still have 3 rifles left and I enjoy the round. I have plenty of 7n6 but haven't shot any of it, I shoot commercial ammo. I think I'll sell all my 7n6 in about 5 years spend the profits on hookers. +1 |
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Posted: 4/22/2014 6:31:33 PM EDT
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What issue is that? Just stick to Bulgy mags...they will last forever. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yes, it's still worth it. I just bought 750 rounds of commercial 5.45 WPA for my AR at $0.25 a round. Still cheaper than .223 WPA at 0.27 a round and way cheaper than brass 5.56 at $0.35 a round (I don't reload yet). I like steel 5.45 over steel .223. More reliable extraction with the cartridge taper over the .223/5.56 and no worries about switching between steel and brass ammo and chamber fouling. During the panic, I could find 5.45 on the shelves at Academy whenever I wanted. There's also the .223/5.56 AK mag issue. my $0.02 What issue is that? Just stick to Bulgy mags...they will last forever. Whenever mags are 40 bucks there is an issue. |
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Posted: 4/22/2014 6:59:53 PM EDT
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No it isn't worth having one at all. In fact, I'm going to lug all my 5.45x39 AR's and AK's out my basement door, walk the 50 feet to my lake shore and throw all those rifle into the lake. Then I'm going to pull my wheel barrow up to the door and load my 15,000 rounds of 5.45x39 ammo up, load up my boat and sink it all to the bottom of the lake. I actually sold two rifles in the caliber last week. Still have 3 rifles left and I enjoy the round. I have plenty of 7n6 but haven't shot any of it, I shoot commercial ammo. I think I'll sell all my 7n6 in about 5 years spend the profits on hookers. +1 +473 |
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Posted: 4/22/2014 7:11:17 PM EDT
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Whenever mags are 40 bucks there is an issue. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yes, it's still worth it. I just bought 750 rounds of commercial 5.45 WPA for my AR at $0.25 a round. Still cheaper than .223 WPA at 0.27 a round and way cheaper than brass 5.56 at $0.35 a round (I don't reload yet). I like steel 5.45 over steel .223. More reliable extraction with the cartridge taper over the .223/5.56 and no worries about switching between steel and brass ammo and chamber fouling. During the panic, I could find 5.45 on the shelves at Academy whenever I wanted. There's also the .223/5.56 AK mag issue. my $0.02 What issue is that? Just stick to Bulgy mags...they will last forever. Whenever mags are 40 bucks there is an issue. I can't argue with that when we used to be able to get them for $20 to $25. Still, in today's market you can get a 106 for $100 to $200 less than a 104 so the $15 extra for a set of mags will be offset by a cheaper rifle. |
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Posted: 4/22/2014 7:20:25 PM EDT
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This may sound like a stupid question, but why is the 7n6 ban really scarring people that bad? I mean you can still get wolf ammo for it super cheap. I've shot thousands of rounds through AKs and never bought surplus, its all been wolf, GT, etc..
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Posted: 4/22/2014 7:24:22 PM EDT
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This may sound like a stupid question, but why is the 7n6 ban really scarring people that bad? I mean you can still get wolf ammo for it super cheap. I've shot thousands of rounds through AKs and never bought surplus, its all been wolf, GT, etc.. It seems like a huge amount of people don't realize it's only the surplus ammo that is banned. They seem to think all 5.45 is banned. |
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Posted: 4/22/2014 7:43:56 PM EDT
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Dan's ammo supposedly had crates of 7n6 stacked from floor to ceiling. Something like $205.00 per tin or so but only selling it by the crate. If you want/need it, order some.
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Posted: 4/22/2014 7:50:32 PM EDT
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It seems like a huge amount of people don't realize it's only the surplus ammo that is banned. They seem to think all 5.45 is banned. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This may sound like a stupid question, but why is the 7n6 ban really scarring people that bad? I mean you can still get wolf ammo for it super cheap. I've shot thousands of rounds through AKs and never bought surplus, its all been wolf, GT, etc.. It seems like a huge amount of people don't realize it's only the surplus ammo that is banned. They seem to think all 5.45 is banned. I knew only 7n6 was the only thing banned but I wasn't aware how much commercial ammo was out there as well. You guys are terrible at talking people out of things. 
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Posted: 4/22/2014 8:07:17 PM EDT
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http://www.ammoman.com/545-x-39-russian
http://www.sgammo.com/product/surplus/2160-round-crate-545x39-russian-military-surplus-7n6-52-grain-fmj-ammo-limit-5-crate |
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Posted: 4/22/2014 8:24:48 PM EDT
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XXXXXXXXXXXX http://www.sgammo.com/product/surplus/2160-round-crate-545x39-russian-military-surplus-7n6-52-grain-fmj-ammo-limit-5-crate The one I didn't quote was banned on the site for being a thief in a gun deal and links to his site are not supposed to be posted I think since they kicked him from the forum. |
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Posted: 4/22/2014 8:51:04 PM EDT
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The one I didn't quote was banned on the site for being a thief in a gun deal and links to his site are not supposed to be posted I think since they kicked him from the forum. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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XXXXXXXXXXXX http://www.sgammo.com/product/surplus/2160-round-crate-545x39-russian-military-surplus-7n6-52-grain-fmj-ammo-limit-5-crate The one I didn't quote was banned on the site for being a thief in a gun deal and links to his site are not supposed to be posted I think since they kicked him from the forum. Oh really?? I didn't know. My apologies. Link to incident? If its true I will stop buying from there as well. |
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Posted: 4/22/2014 10:22:46 PM EDT
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It seems like a huge amount of people don't realize it's only the surplus ammo that is banned. They seem to think all 5.45 is banned. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This may sound like a stupid question, but why is the 7n6 ban really scarring people that bad? I mean you can still get wolf ammo for it super cheap. I've shot thousands of rounds through AKs and never bought surplus, its all been wolf, GT, etc.. It seems like a huge amount of people don't realize it's only the surplus ammo that is banned. They seem to think all 5.45 is banned. A 10 cents a round increase from 7n6 and commerical is pretty big, An extra 3 dollars every time you shoot magazine. Extremely cheap milsurp was why people were getting into it in the first place. Commercial stuff is about the same as .223 Wolf so may as well shoot the AR. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 2:06:13 AM EDT
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At these prices, id rather save the time cleaning and pay the little extra money for commercial.
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Posted: 4/23/2014 4:15:10 AM EDT
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Oh really?? I didn't know. My apologies. Link to incident? If its true I will stop buying from there as well. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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XXXXXXXXXXXX http://www.sgammo.com/product/surplus/2160-round-crate-545x39-russian-military-surplus-7n6-52-grain-fmj-ammo-limit-5-crate The one I didn't quote was banned on the site for being a thief in a gun deal and links to his site are not supposed to be posted I think since they kicked him from the forum. Oh really?? I didn't know. My apologies. Link to incident? If its true I will stop buying from there as well. Here you go. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 4:32:14 AM EDT
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A 10 cents a round increase from 7n6 and commerical is pretty big, An extra 3 dollars every time you shoot magazine. Extremely cheap milsurp was why people were getting into it in the first place. Commercial stuff is about the same as .223 Wolf so may as well shoot the AR. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This may sound like a stupid question, but why is the 7n6 ban really scarring people that bad? I mean you can still get wolf ammo for it super cheap. I've shot thousands of rounds through AKs and never bought surplus, its all been wolf, GT, etc.. It seems like a huge amount of people don't realize it's only the surplus ammo that is banned. They seem to think all 5.45 is banned. A 10 cents a round increase from 7n6 and commerical is pretty big, An extra 3 dollars every time you shoot magazine. Extremely cheap milsurp was why people were getting into it in the first place. Commercial stuff is about the same as .223 Wolf so may as well shoot the AR. Actually, I got into it because commercial ammo in 5.45x39 caliber was $99.00 a case of 1,000. All you guys that got into it for $129.99 a 1080 round tin of 7n6 surplus are late to the game. You paid $30.00 more for an extra 80 rounds. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 10:06:28 AM EDT
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Ive been craving a 74, but now with the 5.45 ammo import ban things arent looking so good. Would it be better to just get an AK in .223 instead? There is plenty of 5.45 commerical ammo that is still being imported and is fairly inexpensive. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 12:03:27 PM EDT
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A 10 cents a round increase from 7n6 and commerical is pretty big, An extra 3 dollars every time you shoot magazine. Extremely cheap milsurp was why people were getting into it in the first place. Commercial stuff is about the same as .223 Wolf so may as well shoot the AR. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This may sound like a stupid question, but why is the 7n6 ban really scarring people that bad? I mean you can still get wolf ammo for it super cheap. I've shot thousands of rounds through AKs and never bought surplus, its all been wolf, GT, etc.. It seems like a huge amount of people don't realize it's only the surplus ammo that is banned. They seem to think all 5.45 is banned. A 10 cents a round increase from 7n6 and commerical is pretty big, An extra 3 dollars every time you shoot magazine. Extremely cheap milsurp was why people were getting into it in the first place. Commercial stuff is about the same as .223 Wolf so may as well shoot the AR. This was my thinking as well. If i'm going to pay that price why not pay the extra 1 cent and shoot my AR. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 12:20:46 PM EDT
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This was my thinking as well. If i'm going to pay that price why not pay the extra 1 cent and shoot my AR. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This may sound like a stupid question, but why is the 7n6 ban really scarring people that bad? I mean you can still get wolf ammo for it super cheap. I've shot thousands of rounds through AKs and never bought surplus, its all been wolf, GT, etc.. It seems like a huge amount of people don't realize it's only the surplus ammo that is banned. They seem to think all 5.45 is banned. A 10 cents a round increase from 7n6 and commerical is pretty big, An extra 3 dollars every time you shoot magazine. Extremely cheap milsurp was why people were getting into it in the first place. Commercial stuff is about the same as .223 Wolf so may as well shoot the AR. This was my thinking as well. If i'm going to pay that price why not pay the extra 1 cent and shoot my AR. Shooting the same thing all the time gets old.. to me at least. I like having a variety, which is why I first got an AK about ten years ago. My AR was great, but it was hard to stay interested in shooting when it was always the same thing each range trip. I'll be keeping all my AKs, and keep on building the AR that I'm collecting parts for. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 1:04:53 PM EDT
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Actually, I got into it because commercial ammo in 5.45x39 caliber was $99.00 a case of 1,000. All you guys that got into it for $129.99 a 1080 round tin of 7n6 surplus are late to the game. You paid $30.00 more for an extra 80 rounds. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This may sound like a stupid question, but why is the 7n6 ban really scarring people that bad? I mean you can still get wolf ammo for it super cheap. I've shot thousands of rounds through AKs and never bought surplus, its all been wolf, GT, etc.. It seems like a huge amount of people don't realize it's only the surplus ammo that is banned. They seem to think all 5.45 is banned. A 10 cents a round increase from 7n6 and commerical is pretty big, An extra 3 dollars every time you shoot magazine. Extremely cheap milsurp was why people were getting into it in the first place. Commercial stuff is about the same as .223 Wolf so may as well shoot the AR. Actually, I got into it because commercial ammo in 5.45x39 caliber was $99.00 a case of 1,000. All you guys that got into it for $129.99 a 1080 round tin of 7n6 surplus are late to the game. You paid $30.00 more for an extra 80 rounds. ugh.. ok? Good for you. We'd all love to go back to 2001 when Wolf 9mm was $50/1k and 7.62x39 was $89/1k. The question was is it worth it to get into 5.45 AKs right now. Based on current ammo prices and availability I would say no. If someone was lucky/smart enough to stock up like you did then you are sitting pretty 
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Posted: 4/23/2014 2:15:16 PM EDT
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Isn't it time to step up to a man's caliber?
7.62, because size DOES matter. 
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Posted: 4/23/2014 2:50:03 PM EDT
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Isn't it time to step up to a man's caliber? 7.62, because size DOES matter.
I've got a .308 AK. Well, for a few more days anyway. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 3:09:58 PM EDT
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Any chance the price of 74s will fall once the 7N6 dries up?
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Posted: 4/23/2014 4:57:42 PM EDT
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No. and it will get worse.
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Posted: 4/23/2014 4:59:20 PM EDT
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Right like the size of ones wallet.
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Isn't it time to step up to a man's caliber? 7.62, because size DOES matter.
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Posted: 4/23/2014 5:10:09 PM EDT
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Any chance the price of 74s will fall once the 7N6 dries up? I think the prices won't go up any more. Will they go down? Probably not. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 6:55:28 PM EDT
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The '74 is here to stay. It's a great rifle and a great caliber. I don't get 5.56 AK's. Yes, you get more commercial load options and the ability to reload cases. If that's what you're after then I honestly feel that the AR platform has more to offer. In 5.56, you give up part of the recipie for the AK's legendary reliability under adverse conditions: the tapered case. I think now that the 7N6 is done, we'll see more commercial offerings and 5.45 prices will slowly equalize to match the 7.62x39 offering. Economics.
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Posted: 4/23/2014 7:25:15 PM EDT
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The '74 is here to stay. It's a great rifle and a great caliber. I don't get 5.56 AK's. Yes, you get more commercial load options and the ability to reload cases. If that's what you're after then I honestly feel that the AR platform has more to offer. In 5.56, you give up part of the recipie for the AK's legendary reliability under adverse conditions: the tapered case. I think now that the 7N6 is done, we'll see more commercial offerings and 5.45 prices will slowly equalize to match the 7.62x39 offering. Economics. Commercial 5.45 prices will stay higher than 7.62. Look at imported steel case .223, why is it higher priced than 7.62, it should be cheaper, as it uses less material, but it is not. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 8:06:25 PM EDT
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This is a great excuse to stop using the corrosive stuff.
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Posted: 4/23/2014 8:51:14 PM EDT
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Commercial 5.45 prices will stay higher than 7.62. Look at imported steel case .223, why is it higher priced than 7.62, it should be cheaper, as it uses less material, but it is not. Good point, but what's driving the $0.21 rnd 7.62 prices we're seeing? I thought it was because of the multiple COO's like Ukraine. I think Russian is the sole source of import steel .223 - no competition from other eastern manufacturers? |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 8:55:23 PM EDT
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Commercial 5.45 prices will stay higher than 7.62. Look at imported steel case .223, why is it higher priced than 7.62, it should be cheaper, as it uses less material, but it is not. Good point, but what's driving the $0.21 rnd 7.62 prices we're seeing? I thought it was because of the multiple COO's like Ukraine. I think Russian is the sole source of import steel .223 - no competition from other eastern manufacturers? Could it be that there are more .223 rifles in America than there are 7.62x39. Supply and demand, how does it work? |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 9:16:43 PM EDT
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Good point, but what's driving the $0.21 rnd 7.62 prices we're seeing? I thought it was because of the multiple COO's like Ukraine. I think Russian is the sole source of import steel .223 - no competition from other eastern manufacturers? Could it be that there are more .223 rifles in America than there are 7.62x39. Supply and demand, how does it work? Exactly, I should have clarified in that import steel comes out of only Russian and obviously the demand is ridiculous from American shooters. 7.62 and 5.45 commercial comes from multiple COO's and the demand is not nearly as high, therefore why I believe that 5.45 will eventually settle at 7.62 level prices given the increase in the popularity of the AK74. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 9:18:41 PM EDT
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Commercial 5.45 prices will stay higher than 7.62. Look at imported steel case .223, why is it higher priced than 7.62, it should be cheaper, as it uses less material, but it is not. Good point, but what's driving the $0.21 rnd 7.62 prices we're seeing? I thought it was because of the multiple COO's like Ukraine. I think Russian is the sole source of import steel .223 - no competition from other eastern manufacturers? It didn't occur to me that Russia is the sole supplier of steel cased 5.56. Any sanctions that cut off commercial Russian ammo could definitely put a hurt on those struggling to afford shooting 5.56 platforms on a regularly basis. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 11:01:34 PM EDT
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It didn't occur to me that Russia is the sole supplier of steel cased 5.56. Any sanctions that cut off commercial Russian ammo could definitely put a hurt on those struggling to afford shooting 5.56 platforms on a regularly basis. I'm not 100% on that but every box of import steel case .223 I've ever bought has been from Russia regardless of the brand / reseller. |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 7:01:00 AM EDT
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It didn't occur to me that Russia is the sole supplier of steel cased 5.56. Any sanctions that cut off commercial Russian ammo could definitely put a hurt on those struggling to afford shooting 5.56 platforms on a regularly basis. I'm not 100% on that but every box of import steel case .223 I've ever bought has been from Russia regardless of the brand / reseller. Used to be steel cased Sellier & Bellot .223 on the market in or around 2000. I had some at one time that came with a rifle I bought. Here is some |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 7:25:50 AM EDT
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As for 5.45x39 ammo. Wasn't Polish imported previously? Yes it was.
Romanian? Here you go. Bulgarian If the countries manufactured 7n6 they could tool up to make commercial 5.45x39 ammo if Russian commercial ammo was banned. Are those countries NATO allies now? |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 8:45:37 AM EDT
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As for 5.45x39 ammo. Wasn't Polish imported previously? Yes it was. Romanian? Here you go. Bulgarian If the countries manufactured 7n6 they could tool up to make commercial 5.45x39 ammo if Russian commercial ammo was banned. Are those countries NATO allies now? Arsenal stated they would start making commercial 7.62x39 and 5.45.39, and their 7.62x39, brass cased, is already available. Hopefully they'll follow up soon with 5.45x39. |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 9:09:56 AM EDT
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Commercial 5.45 prices will stay higher than 7.62. Look at imported steel case .223, why is it higher priced than 7.62, it should be cheaper, as it uses less material, but it is not. Good point, but what's driving the $0.21 rnd 7.62 prices we're seeing? I thought it was because of the multiple COO's like Ukraine. I think Russian is the sole source of import steel .223 - no competition from other eastern manufacturers? It didn't occur to me that Russia is the sole supplier of steel cased 5.56. Any sanctions that cut off commercial Russian ammo could definitely put a hurt on those struggling to afford shooting 5.56 platforms on a regularly basis. I wish we had budget priced Czech or Polish 5.56. 
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Posted: 4/24/2014 12:06:25 PM EDT
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I still believe an ak should either be in 5.45 or 7.62x39. .223/5.56 is a round meant for the ar platform, leave it there. The straight wall case of the .223 makes it harder to extract than the other tapered cartridges. Also .223 steel case will eat your barrel up in short order and good luck replacing it.
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Posted: 4/24/2014 7:15:27 PM EDT
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If you go check out gun-deals right now there is a multitude of sellers dumping their 7n6 all of the sudden. Bet they are getting rid of it before BATF gets around to inventorying it. Didn't a notice come out that said FFL holders in possession of 7n6 had to enter it in their bound books?
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