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apr67
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Posted: 8/17/2012 8:55:12 AM
Folks need Gods, they have since man first crawled out of the primordial slime.

However I only pray to R. Lee Ermey. All others are false idols.



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Posted: 8/17/2012 2:18:23 PM
Originally Posted By amadeus76:

That's a retarded statement... Yes, Mikail Kalashnikov created the AK (with alot of help), but in terms af acceptance here in the States as a viable rifle platform Suarez did do much to further its acceptance.




Where was Gabe Suarez in the 1980's and 1990's when tens of thousands of AKs were already being imported into the US? Stealing from workman's comp. I don't think a convict develops a cult following I want to be a part of. He runs his business out of Arizona but in all the years I lived out there (18) I never met him or heard about him in the AK world though I met all the well known importers and builders who every AK collector has heard of. I.E. Ted Marshall, Mario of PoHF, the owners of B-West Imports and others.

Arizona/Nevada region was called the AK triangle for a reason for many years and Gabe Suarez was late to the game.

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Posted: 8/17/2012 3:43:25 PM
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dude is a "born again" christian... half of WT is hate mongering towards non christians/minorities

again, fuck gabe suarez
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Posted: 8/17/2012 9:35:50 PM
Originally Posted By ironlung:
dude is a "born again" christian... half of WT is hate mongering towards non christians/minorities

again, fuck gabe suarez


Suarez admitted that he was stopped by Divine intervention from shooting up his coworkers.
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Posted: 8/17/2012 10:44:52 PM
Just a question, i read the dudes bio on his website but why would anyone, in their right mind, seek firearms instruction from a karate teacher?
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Posted: 8/18/2012 8:21:46 AM
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Gabe Suarez? Don't care one way or the other. The weapons in question on the other hand I can readily comment on as I have each in my stable. HK/PTR91; great weapon, battlefield accurate, very heavy, sledge hammer like recoil in .308 but any grown man can handle it easily. The PTR32 in 7.62x39 is the cats meow however. Very nice package, 16" barrel, zero recoil and accurate. Love mine. Sig 556/551; excellent weapons as well, relatively lightweight and good handling. A few ergo quirks like the safety placement but utterly reliable and reasonably accurate. Mine is currently in classic config(started out as an AR stock style) and takes STANAG mags but the newer 551(american) model looks great also. As for the AK platform what else can be said. In my mind its the gold standard in "go to" weapon. To these rumblings I've heard in the last few years questioning the systems legendary reliability I say "poppycock"! I've got no less than 7 AK pattern weapons and each has done nothing but run and run and run. Nuf said!
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Posted: 8/18/2012 2:35:24 PM
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Originally Posted By toyotaman:
I followed his forum and his postings for a while as he was "maximizing the AK platform."

It took me, unfortunately, a little while to realize he was maximizing his wallet.

I'm glad I never bought one of his VEPR's.

This. I tried being active over on his site for a while as there is a lot of good information there on preparation, training and gun-fighting philosophy. However when it comes to weapon platforms, his fanboys are some of the most rabid that I have ever seen. Any time you make a topic about a weapon, a hundred fanboys jump in and only recommend gabe's products.

Why u no haz glock! Why uz glock haz no red dot!*@@$@ Red Dot ez for concealment!!!!

I made a post about the micro-uzi and how it worked better for me then a full size....surprisingly it was deleted very quickly. Then when I brought it up again, gabe told me it sucked and that the full sized uzi is much better in every application, then the fanboys descended upon me. Hey I liked my IMI uzi, but come on....the asshole is so disingenuous that I can't even stand to be there anymore.


People will shit on the PTR or uzi as being antiquated, but as soon as gabe starts pushing his sales on those weapons, all of a sudden they are the best out there and everyone has to have one.

I am glad he is showing that some of those older platforms are just as functional as ever and he is bringing good mods to the market, but his devoted legions and selling practices just turn me off.


summarize: good trainer, good information, shady business practices.
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Posted: 8/18/2012 4:58:43 PM
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The guy has about as much credibility as the Strider boys, zero!!!! But each has their legion of rabid followers that spin themselves into a frenzy when someone dares to call into question the teachings and words of their chosen "Messiah"! It's funny when the "Born Agains" are pushed, the asshole they once were comes back out, every time!! Entertaining

S/F

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Posted: 8/19/2012 2:17:15 AM
Originally Posted By HWI:
Suarez is not an AK guru, he is a money making guru.




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Posted: 8/24/2012 3:15:38 AM
I think the goons over at WT are actually trawling these threads for users to ban on their board.
I went to check out a thread on there a bit ago to find out I was banned from the board, but I don't recall ever even posting anything on their forum.
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Posted: 8/24/2012 9:09:35 AM
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Originally Posted By HWI:
I think the goons over at WT are actually trawling these threads for users to ban on their board.
I went to check out a thread on there a bit ago to find out I was banned from the board, but I don't recall ever even posting anything on their forum.

lol, I sooo think they are too. I haven't been over there to see if I have been banned, but I bet I have. Not long after this thread popped up I got an email from WT titled "Gabe a sellout?" Too f'ing funny. What a Fascist Pig! I ban you for saying something on another forum! Exactly the reason I never went there in the 1st place (I registered to sell my PTR, since it's the hot new thang)

ETA: I was just able to log in, so who knows.
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Posted: 8/24/2012 9:18:31 AM
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I just tried to log in over at WT and this is what I got:

You have been banned for the following reason:
Perhaps AR-15.com will be more to your liking


Date the ban will be lifted: Never




Too damn funny.

And yes, Arfcom is definitely more to my liking.



Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading.
Good judgement comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgement.
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Posted: 8/24/2012 12:09:21 PM
Originally Posted By Liquidmetal:
I just tried to log in over at WT and this is what I got:

You have been banned for the following reason:
Perhaps AR-15.com will be more to your liking


Date the ban will be lifted: Never




Too damn funny.

And yes, Arfcom is definitely more to my liking.





lmao what a douche
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Posted: 8/24/2012 12:23:13 PM
Here's a quote from Gabe when another member mentions going to RTG for a spare prts kit for the Hk91.

member––- "RTG has a nice spare parts kit set up that covers pretty much everything. "


GABE:
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I will have Tom contact PTR and see what we can do so you guys don't have to hunt through salvation army shops looking for German throw aways.


Gabe Suarez"



I dont know much about this guy but after reading that one post i now consider this guy a fucking idiot. What a great spokesman for PTR.
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Posted: 8/24/2012 12:25:59 PM
You guys ned to stop making fun of gabe. If you dont then he will come here and challenge you to a gun fight in columbia.
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Posted: 8/24/2012 12:47:34 PM
Originally Posted By fatcat4620:
You guys ned to stop making fun of gabe. If you dont then he will come here and challenge you to a gun fight in columbia.




So absurd. He keeps shooting himself in the foot.
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Posted: 8/24/2012 3:18:52 PM
I was surfing the interwebs once and came across this new and exciting AR magazine. It was tan, and had metal feed lips, and looked exactly like a lancer magazine, except for the color. The seller announced that it was in fact, the latest and greatest, unlike anything else in the market. In the thread, a half dozen fan boys announced that they would immediately sell all of their other magazines, and replace them with the afore-mentioned Suarez magazines, even though they hadn't been released yet, and nobody had tested one.

I had to laugh, because it was clearly a lancer magazine, made of different color plastic. That was my first and last Suarez experience.
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Posted: 8/24/2012 9:44:06 PM
FYI: It looks like I got banned over at WT as well. lolz
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Posted: 8/24/2012 9:55:41 PM
That's not a very Christian thing to do.
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Posted: 8/24/2012 10:05:12 PM
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Originally Posted By maxxmojo:
That's not a very Christian thing to do.


He's a selfish Christian of convenience. He attributes his wealth and success to God without giving anything back. We all make mistakes, but he obviously doesn't care about anyone except himself and making money.
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Posted: 8/24/2012 10:15:29 PM
They'll never figure out which account is mine on WT. I'll be the mole that turns his tards against him
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Posted: 8/24/2012 10:18:03 PM
Originally Posted By dskeet:
They'll never figure out which account is mine on WT. I'll be the mole that turns his tards against him


alright!
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Posted: 8/24/2012 11:35:36 PM
Originally Posted By nictra:

Originally Posted By HWI:
I think the goons over at WT are actually trawling these threads for users to ban on their board.
I went to check out a thread on there a bit ago to find out I was banned from the board, but I don't recall ever even posting anything on their forum.

lol, I sooo think they are too. I haven't been over there to see if I have been banned, but I bet I have. Not long after this thread popped up I got an email from WT titled "Gabe a sellout?" Too f'ing funny. What a Fascist Pig! I ban you for saying something on another forum! Exactly the reason I never went there in the 1st place (I registered to sell my PTR, since it's the hot new thang)

ETA: I was just able to log in, so who knows.


You may be right... I found out I was banned the other day and still have no idea why. Sadly enough, if it is cuz of this thread, I've been defending him here!

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Posted: 8/25/2012 9:00:59 AM
Originally Posted By amadeus76:
Originally Posted By nictra:

Originally Posted By HWI:
I think the goons over at WT are actually trawling these threads for users to ban on their board.
I went to check out a thread on there a bit ago to find out I was banned from the board, but I don't recall ever even posting anything on their forum.

lol, I sooo think they are too. I haven't been over there to see if I have been banned, but I bet I have. Not long after this thread popped up I got an email from WT titled "Gabe a sellout?" Too f'ing funny. What a Fascist Pig! I ban you for saying something on another forum! Exactly the reason I never went there in the 1st place (I registered to sell my PTR, since it's the hot new thang)

ETA: I was just able to log in, so who knows.


You may be right... I found out I was banned the other day and still have no idea why. Sadly enough, if it is cuz of this thread, I've been defending him here!



I got banned for writing a 1911 review there. It was the strangest thing that's ever happened to me on a forum... I guess he didn't like the review....!
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Posted: 8/25/2012 5:16:04 PM
Originally Posted By sdrake100:
Gabe talking about his "selling out".

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Right before the fallout with Rifle Dynamics and his break away from the AK platform, I simply stated I wouldn't pay $900-$1200 for an AK. I would be happy with a WASR, Bulgy kit build, or SAR. If I was going to spend more than $700, I would get an AR. That got me banned. Now, if you read post #7 on this thread, his instructor is saying the same thing! I'm happy to be banned BTW.
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