If anyone is trying to bust you for 922r, it means they have you locked up in the local jail under murder/trafficking/serious drug charges and they're looking to add as much as they can to make sure something sticks. They have bigger things to worry about than some hobbyist with an AK that has 11 foreign parts on it. However, it is somewhat in a grey area with the way it's written and most people like to ensure their rifles are compliant, while actual manufacturers and retailers must ensure they are when sold.

The 922 law applies to people who import or build weapons that could not be imported. Remember when importation of pre ban AK's were banned, & had to come in as MAK 90's which were considered sporting weapons. That law didn't apply to AR 15's as they were built in the USA, & not imported. So if someone in 1990 built a 100% US AK, it could still have all the evil features. Well nobody thought of that back then, but several years later, somebody asked the ATF to clarify how many parts had to be in an imported rifle to be considered US made. They came up with a rule that if no more than 10 foreign parts, & 5, or 6 US parts [depending on the gun] the gun could then have the evil features a US made gun could have. Remember, the 89 ban only affected imported guns. So Importers like Century, TGI, IO, & others have to comply with this law. Also builders like Arsenal, Krebs, & others who build guns here in the US from imported parts need to add US parts to make "made in America" guns. Now theoretically if you take a MAK 90, & replace the thumbhole stock with a pistol grip & buttstock, you have assembled a gun that couldn't be imported without the required US parts, but you'd have a better chance of getting caught for littering. But technically, it still is illegal. But so is littering. However, if you purchase a used MAK 90 that has a pistol grip, & buttstock, & no US parts, it's perfectly legal as you didn't import, or convert the gun. 922 only deals with importation, or assembly. Nobody on this forum, or any other gun forum has ever made reference to anybody who got arrested for a 922 violation. 922 is a way for importers & builders to get guns to the public that were banned in 89. The only people who benefit from 922 are the people who make the US parts like Tapco. GARY N4KVE

Awesome explanation, Gary.

Not illegal to own a 922r gun, just like it is not illegal to own a Glock 28.

Who checks?

I believe there is a post here about a guy in New York state who bought a rifle and had it sent to an FFL who refuses to transfer the rifle to him without proof it is 922R compliant even after the FFL called the importer who informed them it was compliant at the time it was originally sold.

I remember bringing it up here several times concerning internet sales of non-compliant rifles being sold as preban Chinese rifles which were actually postban posted on the EE by unscrupulous sellers here.

It may not get the interest of law enforcement but an FFL doing a transfer can seize the firearm as an illegal transfer and ATF will sometimes tell them to destroy a weapon if it can't be transfered.

What is bullshit? If an FFL accepts a transfer and enters it into their bound book and then is barred from tranferring the firearm to the receiving person what can they do? Say you ship a firearm to an FFL, he enters the firearm into his book, you come in to take possession, he runs a check on your info as required by law and you fail to qualify because you are a prohibitted person. He seizes the firearm, you can not take possession, someone else can't come in to take possession for you because that equals a straw purchase.

What if you buy a shotgun online and have it shipped to a receiving FFL. It arrives and the barrel is 1/2 inch short of legal length? FFL seizes the firearm. FFL calls the ATF and reports the illegal firearm. ATF never shows up and after repeated calls the FFL is told to remove barrel and destroy it. This actually happened to a close personal friend of mine who is an FFL. He destroyed the barrel and held the shotgun for some time and finally ordered a legal barrel for it.

An FFL who is unscupulous can be a prick.

If you are an FFL long enough, sooner or later you will get in something questionable. No need to go bat-shit crazy. Just fix it ASAP.

OK unusual scenario for a prohibited person to ship a gun they already possess to an FFL, but FFL can still ship or sell to anyone else.

He made it legal by purchasing a new barrel after ATF never came to pick it up. The prohibited person never came back for it after failing the background check. The guy had shipped several firearms one being the short barreled shotgun.

Any FFL that worries about 922 compliance on an assembled weapon they are transferring needs to pull their head out of their butt and actually learn the law. Again it has nothing to do with possession only the manufacture or assembly.

No, that is BS. We had this happen at work. A guy bought a gun on line. When he came in to pick up the gun, he failed the background check. However, the store owner offered to buy the gun from the guy, & it wasn't a total loss. Sure, the customer paid the on line store $400 for the gun, but the store owner where I work offered the guy $250 for his gun. The guy accepted the deal because $250 is better than nothing. Imagine this. Times are tough, & to get by you have to pawn a gun until your next paycheck. You go back to the pawn shop to get YOUR gun back, & fail the back ground check. You only needed $100 against your $600 gun, but now you can't get it back. What happens next? HMMMMMM. GARY N4KVE

It's not my fault the thieves didn't use US made magazines.



So post manufacture 922r doesn't apply? So I can use what ever stock/magazine combination I want?