 TX-OCD
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Posted: 6/29/2010 9:24:08 PM
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Liquidmetal
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Posted: 6/29/2010 9:36:45 PM
[Last Edit: 6/29/2010 9:38:21 PM by Liquidmetal]
Primary Arms is a site sponsor and an Aimpoint and Ultimak dealer, plus his prices are very good. E-mail for a possible combo deal on a H-1 or T-1 and an Ultimak tube. Either will co-witness with the Ultimak.
ETA: I now see both the H-1 and T-1 are out of stock there... |
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Posted: 6/29/2010 10:11:27 PM
I just ordered an Ultimak and Sparc from them. Should be here tomorrow.
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TX-OCD
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Posted: 6/29/2010 10:57:33 PM
Thanx for the replies, that dealer is out of stock on the vented Ultimak.....I've read that it isn't a big issue but since my block is not vented I would think it would make some difference––- Early 56s-1.
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Posted: 6/30/2010 12:56:47 AM
[Last Edit: 6/30/2010 12:57:38 AM by erikd65]
Originally Posted By TX-OCD:
Thanx for the replies, that dealer is out of stock on the vented Ultimak.....I've read that it isn't a big issue but since my block is not vented I would think it would make some difference––- Early 56s-1. I have a used ultimak for sale if you are interested. $70 Send me a PM if interested. |
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Posted: 6/30/2010 9:07:18 AM
Originally Posted By c0boy: I just ordered an Ultimak and Sparc from them. Should be here tomorrow. Please post pics. I am wanting to get this combo also but want to make sure it co-witnesses OK. Thanks. |
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Posted: 6/30/2010 9:46:44 AM
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FightingHellfish
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Posted: 6/30/2010 11:23:51 AM
[Last Edit: 6/30/2010 11:24:16 AM by FightingHellfish]
The T-1 is probably the best set up, but a fullsize Aimpoint in a low mount will cowitness like a champ and runs great.
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Posted: 6/30/2010 7:55:33 PM
Originally Posted By FightingHellfish: The T-1 is probably the best set up, but a fullsize Aimpoint in a low mount will cowitness like a champ and runs great. T1 surely is the best set up but some of us ( me ) can't afford to spend 500+ on a optic. I think the SPARC can handle the AK and its backed by a lifetime warranty. Flame away as you wish. |
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FightingHellfish
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Posted: 6/30/2010 8:21:31 PM
[Last Edit: 6/30/2010 8:22:08 PM by FightingHellfish]
Originally Posted By atxjax:
Originally Posted By FightingHellfish:
The T-1 is probably the best set up, but a fullsize Aimpoint in a low mount will cowitness like a champ and runs great. T1 surely is the best set up but some of us ( me ) can't afford to spend 500+ on a optic. I think the SPARC can handle the AK and its backed by a lifetime warranty. Flame away as you wish. I hear ya. My first optic was one of the old ProPoint PDP models, it still runs great, and it's done duty on all kinds of rifles and mounts. I ran a SPOT for a while and that now is on my .22 AR, still a decent RDS. I've never ran a SPARC on a weapon but I have looked at one at a retailer. They look like a decent and solid dot for lots of applications. Running an optic on an Ultimak there is always a concern with heat having an effect on the electronics or batteries. Aimpoints are known to be fine on the gastube rail, I'd want to be sure that a SPARC does well with heat before I risked my money on overheating it. |
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Posted: 6/30/2010 9:01:10 PM
[Last Edit: 7/1/2010 9:12:35 AM by atxjax]
Originally Posted By FightingHellfish: Originally Posted By atxjax: Originally Posted By FightingHellfish: The T-1 is probably the best set up, but a fullsize Aimpoint in a low mount will cowitness like a champ and runs great. T1 surely is the best set up but some of us ( me ) can't afford to spend 500+ on a optic. I think the SPARC can handle the AK and its backed by a lifetime warranty. Flame away as you wish. I hear ya. My first optic was one of the old ProPoint PDP models, it still runs great, and it's done duty on all kinds of rifles and mounts. I ran a SPOT for a while and that now is on my .22 AR, still a decent RDS. I've never ran a SPARC on a weapon but I have looked at one at a retailer. They look like a decent and solid dot for lots of applications. Running an optic on an Ultimak there is always a concern with heat having an effect on the electronics or batteries. Aimpoints are known to be fine on the gastube rail, I'd want to be sure that a SPARC does well with heat before I risked my money on overheating it. Yeah I hear you. Ligit concern there. I beleive Sam at Vortex has tested the SPARC on a ultimak here recently and he state dit help up fine even after it was sizzling hot. I am hopefully goign to be running mine once I get it on a TWS Gen II rail if it comes out. Ultimak would be the last resort. EDIT: The testing Sam did was on top of a MI rail. |
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Posted: 7/1/2010 8:23:32 AM
So I don't have pictures ready to post, but upon installing the Ultimak and Sparc it does not cowitness. The LED unit within the Sparc sits at 6 o clock effectively blocking the front post. After doing some further research I found this thread which is about the Primary Arms Micro which supposedly has the same problem (see last post on that page and I'm not sure which version).
I looked around for pics of the T-1 and finally found one that shows the inside of the Aimpoint. The LED unit in the T-1 is at the 4-5 o clock position, which does not block the front site post. Luckily I have an old Strkefire that was on my AR so I put the Sparc on the AR. I might try the Stikefire on the AK, but I need a low mount. I looked in the Strikefire and the LED unit is at the 1 o clock position. |
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Posted: 7/1/2010 9:31:59 AM
Originally Posted By c0boy: So I don't have pictures ready to post, but upon installing the Ultimak and Sparc it does not cowitness. The LED unit within the Sparc sits at 6 o clock effectively blocking the front post. After doing some further research I found this thread which is about the Primary Arms Micro which supposedly has the same problem (see last post on that page and I'm not sure which version). I looked around for pics of the T-1 and finally found one that shows the inside of the Aimpoint. The LED unit in the T-1 is at the 4-5 o clock position, which does not block the front site post. Luckily I have an old Strkefire that was on my AR so I put the Sparc on the AR. I might try the Stikefire on the AK, but I need a low mount. I looked in the Strikefire and the LED unit is at the 1 o clock position. Thanks for the info man. I guess I am going to have to look for something else or wait until the TWS GenII rail comes out. Sorry it didnt work. Have you thought about maybe sending it back? |
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Posted: 7/1/2010 9:55:10 AM
No plans since I have an original Strikefire on the AR. I already mounted it on the AR and will try The Strikefire on the AK with the Ultimak. It should work out since the LED emitter is in a different place. Just need a short mount to get it lower.
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Posted: 7/1/2010 11:23:36 AM
Cool. I hope you get it all worked out. Thanks for taking the plunge in getting the ultimak and the SPARC along with the review.
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Posted: 7/3/2010 9:40:50 AM
[Last Edit: 7/3/2010 9:42:45 AM by atxjax]
This may be an option for you if you really want to get that SPARC on your AK. Its a bit taller than the standard front sight post. From Krebs customs.
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Posted: 7/3/2010 9:47:42 AM
Thanks but I don't want to go that far. The Sparc resides on the AR now and the old Strikefire will be added to the Ultimak once I get a lower Ultimak rail system.
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Posted: 7/3/2010 10:12:39 AM
Originally Posted By c0boy:
So I don't have pictures ready to post, but upon installing the Ultimak and Sparc it does not cowitness. The LED unit within the Sparc sits at 6 o clock effectively blocking the front post. After doing some further research I found this thread which is about the Primary Arms Micro which supposedly has the same problem (see last post on that page and I'm not sure which version). Primary Arms has 3 versions of micro dot. Gen 1 sits lower than Gen 2 and 3. It allows co-witness with most AKs. Here's a pic of my Gen 1 on my WASR with the rear sight set to 100. 
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Posted: 7/3/2010 12:32:13 PM
The Gen1 will work as described above. The other generations will work if you run your elevation and front sight post up on most rifles. Eventually, PA will come out with a version with the emitter off to the side. The SPARC has some neat features and I would get one if they had the emitter to the side. For the money, I think the PA optic is a better choice for most.
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Posted: 7/3/2010 7:31:26 PM
I imagine that the taller front sight block above would work with a SPARC. If the GenII TWS rail does not come out I am going to attempt that myself.
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