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Posted: 12/3/2009 10:43:15 PM

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Hi Folks,

I said I would give a review after receiving a sample of their new rifles. First, I only purchased one because this is a new offering and I didn't want to push rifles that I didn't like.

Well, I like the rifle

The metal has all been parkerized on this rifle and there are no blued or painted parts. The bolt and carrier are factory polished with just a MINOR bit tarnish/staining. The pistol grip on this model is an excellent/new bakelite pistol that matches the bakelite on the bayonet. The bolt travels smoothly up and down the receiver with no binding. The furniture is the original laminated Polish furniture in very good to excellent condition.

It came with two blued thirty-round magazines and not the black oxide or black painted magazines. It also came with a nice bakelite Polish bayonet with the black insulator.

The rifle functioned flawlessy and the sights are dead on. The magazines locked in place nice and smooth.

The ONLY problem that I had with the rifle is that cleaning rod was not included. This is something that Century stated they WILL not replace if they are missing.

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Posted: 12/3/2009 11:01:00 PM
That actually looks pretty nice. Thanks for the review. How much will these be retailing for?
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Posted: 12/3/2009 11:03:27 PM
Originally Posted By Imaposer2:
That actually looks pretty nice. Thanks for the review. How much will these be retailing for?


We will be selling them for $695.

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Posted: 12/3/2009 11:04:44 PM
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Thanks for the review, Ron. Much appreciated.

What will be the retail price on these again? If someone was looking to get into a milled AK, it might be a good deal. Particularly if Century is contracting out the build, which I believe they are?

It's definitely unique. Would love to hear the history behind these. Would also be interested in hearing how these compare to some of the other sub-$800 milled AK's that have hit the market recently.

P.S. Can someone educate me? Who is "ATM"? Seems like I've seen that name before on receivers, but I am not familiar with them.
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Posted: 12/3/2009 11:08:14 PM
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I feel tempted to buy one, but afraid I'll get a dud like I did with my yugo, but I guess if HD is selling them, there won't be a problem. Century park jobs aren't that durable usually.
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Posted: 12/3/2009 11:11:17 PM
Damn, that actually looks pretty good. Tempting...
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Posted: 12/3/2009 11:18:53 PM
yes it does look nice..I like the multiple rivet pattern in the stock and for a milled polish 47.great price..
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Posted: 12/3/2009 11:21:50 PM
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These weapons were subcontracted by Century and NOT built in house but I don't know who ATM is. The parkerizing is very nice and not splotchy or uneven. Our price on the rifle is $695.

As for less expensive milled AK's, I didn't know there where others this cheap.

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Posted: 12/3/2009 11:22:54 PM
When do you anticipate these rifles being available?
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Posted: 12/3/2009 11:27:12 PM
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When do you anticipate these rifles being available?


I only have five being shipped to me right now but I can bump this order depending on the interest from this post and the one on KrinkFreak.

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Posted: 12/3/2009 11:28:23 PM
Originally Posted By HendersonDefense:
These weapons were subcontracted by Century and NOT built in house but I don't know who ATM is. The parkerizing is very nice and not splotchy or uneven. Our price on the rifle is $695.

As for less expensive milled AK's, I didn't know there where others this cheap.

thanks,
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Hmmm...I'd be interested if anyone knows anything about ATM. Quality receivers?

I recently saw another milled AK for $799. Not quite as cheap, and not Polish. I LOVE Polish AK's! They make (made?) some of the best.
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Posted: 12/3/2009 11:39:07 PM
Very nice looking rifle. Now when will they learn to stop marking up the sides of the receivers and put them underneath in front of the mag well?!
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Posted: 12/3/2009 11:41:20 PM
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I'm guessing the barrels are not polish correct? Also, why do they always replace the trigger with a tapco one? If they wanted compliance parts they could just buy a tapco magazine instead.
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Posted: 12/3/2009 11:56:11 PM
Originally Posted By Ermac:
I'm guessing the barrels are not polish correct? Also, why do they always replace the trigger with a tapco one? If they wanted compliance parts they could just buy a tapco magazine instead.


IMHO, the Tapco trigger is one of the best triggers out there. The only other triggers that I can think of that are just a bit higher in quality were the trigger installed in Norinco's and Polytech's. Besides, I don't think you will find many folks who would take a Tapco magazine over a factory military magazine.

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Posted: 12/4/2009 12:00:26 AM
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Originally Posted By HendersonDefense:
Originally Posted By Ermac:
I'm guessing the barrels are not polish correct? Also, why do they always replace the trigger with a tapco one? If they wanted compliance parts they could just buy a tapco magazine instead.


IMHO, the Tapco trigger is one of the best triggers out there. The only other triggers that I can think of that are just a bit higher in quality were the trigger installed in Norinco's and Polytech's. Besides, I don't think you will find many folks who would take a Tapco magazine over a factory military magazine.

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I don't trust American companies with anything AK related. If anything would go wrong, I'd rather it be with the magazine then the trigger.
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Posted: 12/4/2009 12:13:34 AM
Hmmmm... Me likey.
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Posted: 12/4/2009 12:15:49 AM
very nice, but like stated above, markings would be best on the bottom. Also, what do we know about the barrels?
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Posted: 12/4/2009 12:29:19 AM
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The most common reliability issue with semi-autos of all designs can most often be traced to mags. Original mil-surp mags are well proven and very reliable. The same can't be said of the crapco mags. While I would prefer forged FCG parts over MIM parts I'd still take the G2 FCG over the Tapco mags any day of the week if I needed the compliance parts. With US FCG parts you are legal with any mag that's put in the gun. If you use the mags to meet compliance you're stuck with aftermarket mags forever.

On a milled receiver Ak, and assuming the barrel and slant brake are both US made, you only need two more US parts to make it legally a US built rifle. The trigger and disco is all that's needed so you can retain the original piston, furniture and mags.

I do agree about the marking location. Still a nice looking rifle though.
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Posted: 12/4/2009 12:54:16 AM
Is the barrel chrome lined?

Is it an original Polish barrel, or is it U.S. manufactured?
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Posted: 12/4/2009 1:30:22 AM
Damn those lightening cuts...
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Posted: 12/4/2009 1:41:41 AM
Originally Posted By Imaposer2:
The most common reliability issue with semi-autos of all designs can most often be traced to mags. Original mil-surp mags are well proven and very reliable. The same can't be said of the crapco mags. While I would prefer forged FCG parts over MIM parts I'd still take the G2 FCG over the Tapco mags any day of the week if I needed the compliance parts. With US FCG parts you are legal with any mag that's put in the gun. If you use the mags to meet compliance you're stuck with aftermarket mags forever.

On a milled receiver Ak, and assuming the barrel and slant brake are both US made, you only need two more US parts to make it legally a US built rifle. The trigger and disco is all that's needed so you can retain the original piston, furniture and mags.

I do agree about the marking location. Still a nice looking rifle though.

Geez, if the mags are that bad, I wonder what that says about some of their triggers? It's not Century's problem if you are stuck with aftermarket mags.

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Posted: 12/4/2009 1:50:01 AM
I wonder how that would look with Russian furniture...
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Posted: 12/4/2009 2:32:30 AM
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Damn those lightening cuts...


I agree. Ouch !!!

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Posted: 12/4/2009 6:37:25 AM
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Geez, if the mags are that bad, I wonder what that says about some of their triggers?


There are thousands of G2 fcgs in use. There was one batch with a manufacturing defect that was recalled. Other than that, no one has ever reported a problem involving the G2 fcgs.
That says more about the fcg than the magazines.
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Posted: 12/4/2009 7:25:59 AM
yeah what's up w/the circle/swirl marks???
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Originally Posted By TheRealSundance:
Damn those lightening cuts...


I agree. Ouch !!!



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Posted: 12/4/2009 8:26:21 AM
I like it. I wish they would have done the lightening cuts right, but I could live with them as is.
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