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Posted: 7/31/2012 7:42:42 PM
THE IMAGE ABOVE IS A PAID ADVERTISEMENT Steel reinforced lips, steel lugs... too good to be true? |
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Posted: 7/31/2012 8:15:55 PM
This is relevant to my interests
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Posted: 7/31/2012 8:34:07 PM
I just got the email on these things.
Hard to pass up for $15 less than a (10). |
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Posted: 7/31/2012 10:04:53 PM
Originally Posted By HWI:
I just got the email on these things. Hard to pass up for $15 less than a (10). That's kind of my thought as well... |
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Posted: 7/31/2012 10:10:28 PM
They appear to be 30 rd mags, correct?
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Posted: 7/31/2012 10:39:38 PM
Are those the same as these??
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Posted: 7/31/2012 11:04:07 PM
Don't think so. Widener's mags do not have steel reinforced locking lugs. |
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Posted: 8/1/2012 12:25:24 AM
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Posted: 8/1/2012 7:42:13 AM
[Last Edit: 8/1/2012 7:44:47 AM by fatcat4620]
Sweet jesus! Are they new manufacture or surplus?
Edit: They look new from the pics. |
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Posted: 8/1/2012 8:24:02 AM
It sounds like the manufacturer may have responded to the market and included the steel reinforcements
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Posted: 8/1/2012 8:47:41 AM
[Last Edit: 8/1/2012 8:47:51 AM by pjoo1120]
Price was too good to pass up. Ordered a few. Hopefully they are OK, but at least they were relatively cheap in comparison to the quality poly prices nowadays.
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Posted: 8/1/2012 8:54:35 AM
Originally Posted By fatcat4620:
Sweet jesus! Are they new manufacture or surplus? Edit: They look new from the pics. They are commercial, so they can't be surplus. |
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Posted: 8/1/2012 12:24:45 PM
I'm excited to see these new mags. Looking forward to a range report from someone.
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Posted: 8/1/2012 6:50:25 PM
Anyone out there get your hands on these yet?
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Posted: 8/1/2012 7:24:07 PM
tag for hands on reviews
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Posted: 8/1/2012 8:35:31 PM
Just got the mail last night, so i doubt anyone has them as of yet.
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Posted: 8/2/2012 9:37:07 AM
I was going to order two just because, then I remembered I already have two Polish 'slabsides'. :) My guess on these is, if you liked the C10 'waffles', you'll love these. From the manufacturer's standpoint it was a win-win, because they simply used the drawings from the 'waffles' to make the steel parts and the same methods/machinery to assemble them.
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Posted: 8/2/2012 1:07:15 PM
[Last Edit: 8/2/2012 1:08:46 PM by fatcat4620]
It looks like these are missing steel down the leading edge and at the base plate.
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Posted: 8/2/2012 1:13:56 PM
Originally Posted By fatcat4620:
It looks like these are missing steel down the leading edge and at the base plate. Yes, there is no steel in those places; but the most important areas are covered. |
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Posted: 8/2/2012 5:55:28 PM
Originally Posted By 1saxman:
From the manufacturer's standpoint it was a win-win, because they simply used the drawings from the 'waffles' to make the steel parts and the same methods/machinery to assemble them. I wouldn't be too sure on that till someone dissects one. I think these only have reinforcement on the feed lips and locking lugs. Plus, we don't yet know if the reinforcement is done as good as the Circle 10s. The only thing we know for sure is that they are commercial made, not made for the military like Circle 10s are. The price is good, but best to get all the details before jumping to any conclusions I think. |
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Posted: 8/7/2012 12:00:26 PM
I got 4 of them in. I was own some of ISD's AR15 mags so I hoped these would be of similar quality. They are.
I have not live fired them as of yet, but will in the next week. Here is what I did observe: 60 rounds hand cycled with no problems. They locked up tightly and removed smoothly from my American reciever/Romanian gun and my factor Hungarian SA85. The only wear was the black finish on the rear locking tab, which appeared normal after 20 insertions at full speed. Mags loaded with both 5 rounds and 30 rounds were dropped base first onto a hard tile floor from 4 feet. No rounds were ejected, the bodies experience no cracking, the base was scared but not damaged. In the garage I slammed the base of the magazine while inserted in the gun, onto the concrete floor a half dozen times with moderate force, similar to what going prone quickly on concrete would. Neither locking tab sheered. This same impact regularly sheers the rear plastic locking tab off of Polish Radom "Circle 11" polymer mags which are bizarrely metal reinforced on the front tab but not the rear. Years ago the same type of impact also destroyed an outrageously expensive South African R4/Galil polymer 5.56 mag by splitting the body up the back seam. These are solid mags. I will purchase more and would not hesitate to use them in a primary load-out where their lighter weight over traditional milspec steel mags will shine. |
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Posted: 8/7/2012 2:45:38 PM
Originally Posted By Lumpy196:
I got 4 of them in. I was own some of ISD's AR15 mags so I hoped these would be of similar quality. They are. I have not live fired them as of yet, but will in the next week. Here is what I did observe: 60 rounds hand cycled with no problems. They locked up tightly and removed smoothly from my American reciever/Romanian gun and my factor Hungarian SA85. The only wear was the black finish on the rear locking tab, which appeared normal after 20 insertions at full speed. Mags loaded with both 5 rounds and 30 rounds were dropped base first onto a hard tile floor from 4 feet. No rounds were ejected, the bodies experience no cracking, the base was scared but not damaged. In the garage I slammed the base of the magazine while inserted in the gun, onto the concrete floor a half dozen times with moderate force, similar to what going prone quickly on concrete would. Neither locking tab sheered. This same impact regularly sheers the rear plastic locking tab off of Polish Radom "Circle 11" polymer mags which are bizarrely metal reinforced on the front tab but not the rear. Years ago the same type of impact also destroyed an outrageously expensive South African R4/Galil polymer 5.56 mag by splitting the body up the back seam. These are solid mags. I will purchase more and would not hesitate to use them in a primary load-out where their lighter weight over traditional milspec steel mags will shine. Great report; thanks for sharing. |
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Posted: 8/7/2012 3:26:46 PM
Thanks for the feedback Lumpy.
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Posted: 8/7/2012 5:42:15 PM
Originally Posted By plouffedaddy:
Originally Posted By Lumpy196:
I got 4 of them in. I was own some of ISD's AR15 mags so I hoped these would be of similar quality. They are. I have not live fired them as of yet, but will in the next week. Here is what I did observe: 60 rounds hand cycled with no problems. They locked up tightly and removed smoothly from my American reciever/Romanian gun and my factor Hungarian SA85. The only wear was the black finish on the rear locking tab, which appeared normal after 20 insertions at full speed. Mags loaded with both 5 rounds and 30 rounds were dropped base first onto a hard tile floor from 4 feet. No rounds were ejected, the bodies experience no cracking, the base was scared but not damaged. In the garage I slammed the base of the magazine while inserted in the gun, onto the concrete floor a half dozen times with moderate force, similar to what going prone quickly on concrete would. Neither locking tab sheered. This same impact regularly sheers the rear plastic locking tab off of Polish Radom "Circle 11" polymer mags which are bizarrely metal reinforced on the front tab but not the rear. Years ago the same type of impact also destroyed an outrageously expensive South African R4/Galil polymer 5.56 mag by splitting the body up the back seam. These are solid mags. I will purchase more and would not hesitate to use them in a primary load-out where their lighter weight over traditional milspec steel mags will shine. Great report; thanks for sharing. +1 Thanks! |
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Posted: 8/8/2012 1:32:44 AM
Originally Posted By Lumpy196:
I got 4 of them in. I was own some of ISD's AR15 mags so I hoped these would be of similar quality. They are. I have not live fired them as of yet, but will in the next week. Here is what I did observe: 60 rounds hand cycled with no problems. They locked up tightly and removed smoothly from my American reciever/Romanian gun and my factor Hungarian SA85. The only wear was the black finish on the rear locking tab, which appeared normal after 20 insertions at full speed. Mags loaded with both 5 rounds and 30 rounds were dropped base first onto a hard tile floor from 4 feet. No rounds were ejected, the bodies experience no cracking, the base was scared but not damaged. In the garage I slammed the base of the magazine while inserted in the gun, onto the concrete floor a half dozen times with moderate force, similar to what going prone quickly on concrete would. Neither locking tab sheered. This same impact regularly sheers the rear plastic locking tab off of Polish Radom "Circle 11" polymer mags which are bizarrely metal reinforced on the front tab but not the rear. Years ago the same type of impact also destroyed an outrageously expensive South African R4/Galil polymer 5.56 mag by splitting the body up the back seam. These are solid mags. I will purchase more and would not hesitate to use them in a primary load-out where their lighter weight over traditional milspec steel mags will shine. Thanks! Guess Its time to place an order... |
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Posted: 8/20/2012 6:19:27 PM
I got mine and I am very pleased total steel reinforcements will buy more.
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