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Posted: 4/13/2015 9:20:41 PM EDT
Can anyone id if what type of chinese ammo this might be, lead, steel core, etc. without having to open the wood crate? *edit- crate is now open with pics of boxed ammo in post below.
*edit- Here is a pic of the unopened spam can, not sure where its from or what Type ammo it might be- 
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Posted: 4/13/2015 9:55:15 PM EDT
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Is the case marked with a number of rounds ? You do realize the Chinese also packed 7.62x25 as well as .308 in wooden crates . I am not sure about the 223 but the 223 was marked CJ headstamp.
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Posted: 4/13/2015 10:15:13 PM EDT
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Opened the crate and was all packed in 20rd boxes inside a thick plastic bag-
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Posted: 4/14/2015 4:13:42 PM EDT
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Looks like opening it was worth it
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Posted: 4/14/2015 5:07:49 PM EDT
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Anyway to to tell if the norinco is steel core by the headstamp without pulling a bullet?
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Posted: 4/14/2015 5:54:06 PM EDT
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Back in the day, I could look at both the PS (steel core) and regular rounds and tell the difference. You have to know what you are looking at, but there are slight differences in the 2 bullets.
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Posted: 4/14/2015 10:25:12 PM EDT
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Anyway to to tell if the norinco is steel core by the headstamp without pulling a bullet? That should be lead core bullets. But I would not bet the farm on it. |
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Posted: 4/14/2015 11:04:33 PM EDT
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Anyway to to tell if the norinco is steel core by the headstamp without pulling a bullet? Magnet? |
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Posted: 4/14/2015 11:51:24 PM EDT
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Pull a bullet, the only way to know for sure. I f you don't have a puller use pliers. Not pretty but will work. You will know if boat tail or not. I bet flat base - lead core.
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Posted: 4/15/2015 11:01:04 AM EDT
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Anyway to to tell if the norinco is steel core by the headstamp without pulling a bullet? Magnet? It will stick to the bi-metal jacket. 
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Posted: 4/15/2015 12:40:55 PM EDT
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Does the bullet have a knurled crimp groove ? if so it is lead . Factory 71 made both lead and steel core .
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Posted: 4/15/2015 4:55:40 PM EDT
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Does the bullet have a knurled crimp groove ? if so it is lead . Factory 71 made both lead and steel core . 
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Posted: 4/16/2015 7:59:46 PM EDT
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Smooth cannelure = steel core. Red primer seal = non corrosive primers. NOTE: this only applies to 7.62x39mm from Chinese factory code "71". Chinese factories 31, 311 and 351 all made steel and lead core 7.62x39mm concurrently but used different methods to ID, or none at all.
"31" used a green case mouth seal to denote lead core bullet but they also made boat tailed lead core as well, so boat tail does not equal steel core 100% of the time... 1DD |
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Posted: 4/16/2015 9:53:53 PM EDT
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Smooth cannelure = steel core. Red primer seal = non corrosive primers. NOTE: this only applies to 7.62x39mm from Chinese factory code "71". Chinese factories 31, 311 and 351 all made steel and lead core 7.62x39mm concurrently but used different methods to ID, or none at all. "31" used a green case mouth seal to denote lead core bullet but they also made boat tailed lead core as well, so boat tail does not equal steel core 100% of the time... 1DD Is that the smooth cannelure/steel core in the pics above? |
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Posted: 4/17/2015 7:56:09 AM EDT
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You guys have way more knowledge than I do (I didn't know about the cannelure or red sealant distinctions) but doesn't the "L.C.B." on the tin indicate Lead Core Bullet ?
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Posted: 4/17/2015 6:14:21 PM EDT
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You guys have way more knowledge than I do (I didn't know about the cannelure or red sealant distinctions) but doesn't the "L.C.B." on the tin indicate Lead Core Bullet ? Pretty sure the can ammo is lead, probably russian made commercial ammo |
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Posted: 4/18/2015 8:56:11 AM EDT
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Yes, the pic show a smooth cannelure. I agree that the spam can contains Russian made 7.62x39mm with a lead core projectile.
1DD |
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Posted: 4/18/2015 9:52:41 PM EDT
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Thanks everyone for the help and knowledge!
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Posted: 4/19/2015 10:00:00 PM EDT
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Any idea what an unopened crate like this would be worth today?
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Posted: 4/24/2015 12:59:59 AM EDT
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Some of the yellow boxes are labeled on the back with lead or steel core .
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Posted: 4/25/2015 9:58:38 AM EDT
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Some of the yellow boxes are labeled on the back with lead or steel core . Never saw that kind of marking before and I had a pretty good collection of Chinese 7.62x39mm boxes back in the day. Do you have a pic of this? 1DD |
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Posted: 5/5/2015 12:24:31 AM EDT
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Never saw that kind of marking before and I had a pretty good collection of Chinese 7.62x39mm boxes back in the day. Do you have a pic of this? 1DD Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Some of the yellow boxes are labeled on the back with lead or steel core . Never saw that kind of marking before and I had a pretty good collection of Chinese 7.62x39mm boxes back in the day. Do you have a pic of this? 1DD In the past I just shot the stuff up. I have some loose rounds and a couple of sealed crates .A couple of boxes left but none of that , When it was cheap I never thought it would be collectible . |
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Posted: 5/6/2015 11:24:09 PM EDT
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Never saw that kind of marking before and I had a pretty good collection of Chinese 7.62x39mm boxes back in the day. Do you have a pic of this? 1DD Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Some of the yellow boxes are labeled on the back with lead or steel core . Never saw that kind of marking before and I had a pretty good collection of Chinese 7.62x39mm boxes back in the day. Do you have a pic of this? 1DD Not yellow but red box used later by the same conglomerate(NORINCO). Directly under the "2".  [/URL]
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Posted: 5/6/2015 11:27:08 PM EDT
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Cant see the first pic too well, cell phone pic. So...
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Posted: 5/13/2015 2:48:34 AM EDT
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OP want to sell some?
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Posted: 5/13/2015 3:12:26 AM EDT
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Yellow box Norinco! Ah the memories. Less than a dime a round. Historically, my yellow-box was steel core. But can't say on yours.
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Posted: 5/14/2015 5:34:43 PM EDT
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The spam can appears to be marked for the early 1990s Russian (pre-Wolf) 'commercial hunting ammo' that was the first non-corrosive lead-core steel-case to be imported. It was also found in 'hollow point'. It is decent ammo but not particularly accurate. It doesn't carry any extra value. I would guess its worth around $0.25 a pop.
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