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Posted: 6/15/2012 1:31:20 AM

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im just starting to get my tools and jigs together to start my first AK build and was wondering if anyone has used this spot welder before to weld the bold guide rails and what everyone's experiences were.any thoughts or opinions would be appreciated.
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Posted: 6/15/2012 8:27:14 AM
I have been told to get the 110v version, which I did. Only used it a couple times so far, still getting use to it but it works. One problem I am having it that the tension adjustment knob it too short so I am having trouble keeping it tight after the tips have been filed clean a few times.

You will need AK-Builders lower tong to get inside the receiver.
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Posted: 6/15/2012 4:11:11 PM
why the 110v version over the other options?ive read to avoid the 220 version because it has a tendency to burn through the receiver.
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Posted: 6/15/2012 5:27:32 PM
The 110 will give you good welds on the 1mm metal of most AKM receivers. It's a bit underpowered if you are welding 1.5mm steel plate together.

If you connect the 110 close to your fuse box, and use a finely pointed tip, you will get burn-through. Use an extension cord and make the tips larger to avoid this. The secret to factory welds are a lot of pressure and fairly wide tips which do need a lot of juice to heat everything up. But for home building the 110 is plenty. Only time I've had an issue is welding a grip plate to the bottom of an S-12.
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Posted: 6/16/2012 12:23:22 PM
I got the 220 version and have not had a problem yet.. You just have to make sure all your metal parts are very clean...
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Posted: 6/16/2012 9:02:01 PM
I got a 110 version, and added a high-power diode to cut the power in half.

Nice welds, no burn throughs.
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Posted: 6/20/2012 6:27:33 PM
I use the HF 110v spot welder but I built my own lower welding tong.
Here is how.
You can make your own lower spot welder tong out of a 8 1/2" piece of 1/2" rigid copper tubing, a piece of copper 00 cable without the plastic covering, & a MIG welder tip.
Like this, slip the cable through the tubing & crush down to 3/8 to 1/4" the first 2" of the end.(you can use your hyd. press or just a hammer & anvil) You can fill in the back end with solder or a few extra strands of the 00 copper cable. Drill & tap a 1/4-28 hole in the crushed end of the tong for the MIG tip. Screw in a Mig tip, mount in your spotwelder, align tip to match upper tong and you are ready to weld your rails in.

lower tongs-new & old
Tong end crush thickness
00 copper cable
http://www.harborfreight.com/pack-of-10-003-inch-08mm-mig-welding-tips-95645.html MIG tips
This is the tong I use & I have built many AKs using flats that I needed to weld the lower rails in. It will fit into the receiver even after riveting the trunnions in.
And the best thing is "total cost about $10"
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Posted: 6/21/2012 10:47:31 AM
What do you guys do about heat treating the receivers after completion?
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Posted: 6/21/2012 11:56:06 AM
I use a Mapp torch and heat and treat the wear areas.. I found this to be he best method for me but Its better to heat treat the whole receiver if you have the means..... I heat treat all the holes (except the rivet holes) both top and bottom rails and only after I have done all my welding and then sandblast and paint or park and paint...
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Posted: 6/21/2012 6:16:54 PM
Originally Posted By poorman:
What do you guys do about heat treating the receivers after completion?


I too use a Mapp torch and heat and treat the FCG axis pin holes.
I heat treat the rails & ejector before I spot weld them in, if done right you shouldn't get the rails hot enough to remove the hardness.
Just stay away from the ejector, it has a bad tendency to get in the wrong place & be touching the welder tong when you flip the switch.(MELT)
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Posted: 6/21/2012 9:02:50 PM
thanks for the DIY lower tong paintballer ill have to do that,has anyone tried to heat treat the entire receiver in a bed of coals?i saw that method used somewhere in this forum seemed like a pretty simple way to heat treat.
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Posted: 6/24/2012 11:54:31 PM
Originally Posted By spoons21369:
thanks for the DIY lower tong paintballer ill have to do that,has anyone tried to heat treat the entire receiver in a bed of coals?i saw that method used somewhere in this forum seemed like a pretty simple way to heat treat.


I not sure if coals alone will get it hot enough to heat treat but if you blow air through them it mite.