I am looking for the best cleaner & best lubricant.

I shoot everything from .22 to 50 cal, bolt action to full auto and even black powder.

I don't mind using different lubricants for different types of firearms, so if there is something better for bolt action rifles, semi auto, full autos or pistols - I'm open to consider different options.

Right now I mainly use Hoppe's #9  and/or ultrasonic for cleaners and CLP for lube and/or Hornady One Shot Dry Lube. The exception is for Garands and other WW2 fire arms and I use white lithium grease on the contact surfaces.

Any body ever use SBGO or Frog Lube?
What are the pro's & con's of each, every product has pro's and con's.
I went to the SBGO site and all it seemed to discuss was the % pig fat.
Sorry that doesn't mean anything to me.
As for smell, I can't imagine anything as strong as Hoppe's #9. (However, I heard that there is a cologne that mimics it)

From what I read, I don't think Frog Lube should be used around brass, so I wouldn't use it around some black powder pistols and rifles, but what about synthetic/plastics like on AR's.
I would like to know if SBGO is just pig fat hype or if it really does work.
Personal experience is good and I think it is worthwhile, but some people consider a 20 rd box a lot of ammo and others consider 500+ rds a good days shooting.
The true test of a lubricant is not what it does after 1 or 2 rds, but what is it doing to provide lubrication after 50 rds, 100 rds or 500 rds.

Anybody know of any technical info about either Frog Lube or SBGO?
How long it lasts, # of cycles and what temp it can stand.

Thanks in advance.

you are going to get 100 different answers.  its all personal preference.  

Personally I am a fan of M Pro 7 for my cleaner and oil.  I also have Hoppe's .  for my precision rifles i use Outers foam cleaner as well as a copper remover (when needed).

i believe frog lube was found to be some kind of vegetable oil (or coconut?), so its up to you if u wanna use it.   as far as how many rounds it last depends how its used and its environment.  personally i clean every gun after every use, weather it be 10 rounds or 1000.

I've been using frog lube on 2 ARs now for many thousands of rounds. I've never had a problem. I typically clean around 800 rounds or so. Usually reapply a little lube around 500 rounds as it does seem to burn off.

I've been using slip2000 EWL on my glock for close to 1000 rounds now. I think once I run out of FL I will switch exclusively to Slip 2000. Both are non-toxic and can be used in my apartment without feeling like I'm poisoning myself (hoppes9) or gasping for fresh air. One of the things I look for in my lube other of course than it doing a good job of lubricating my firearms.

Weapon Shield  oil for Lubrication!  It's fantastic.  
Hoppes #9 for cleaning.

Asking about lube, is like asking Brunette's or Blondes  (all personal preference)

There are a LOT of good products, and all of them work well. My current favorites:

Cleaners: M Pro 7/Hoppes Elite cleaner, Gunslick/Outers foaming bore cleaner, Shooter's choice MC7.

Oils: Weapon Shield, FP-10, Royal Purple Gun Oil, Super Lube aerosol.

Grease : Super Lube Synthetic Grease with PTFE

Best grease you'll ever use, hands down. Better specs than the Mobil 1 Grease many Garand owners like, as well as being non-staining and non toxic.

CLPs: Breakfree, G96 gun treatment, CorrosionX, Prolong SPL100.

Weapon Shield and FP-10 tie for best lubricant (Both designed by the same guy, so that's probably why)
CorrosionX for rust prevention; cleaner is a toss up depending on what you're trying to remove.

I'm not a fan of the bio lubes, as they seem to go rancid over long periods of time.

Weaponshield oil for all lube needs
MPro7 cleaner for practically everything else
Boretech Eliminator for rifle bore

MPro7 LPX for all oiling.
Tetra gun grease for greasing.
Sweets and MPro7 for cleaning.

Well, for black powder, as far as cost vs effectiveness, you are going to have a hard time beating regular dish detergent and hot water, followed by a dunk in WD-40 to drive off any remaining water.  Lubricants for black powder are best if they can be washed off in water too

Yeah , you will not get much agreement .

For years I tried all sorts of products , all worked ok when I used them .

When I got into ARs I grabbed some CLP and really liked the ease of having a lube/cleaner in one product . As time went on I have read tests that rated Breakfree CLP as one of the very best products for storage and rust prevention so that is great.

Most of the other products are only available locally in tiny bottles which gets expensive while I can get CLP in Pints locally or bigger jugs at the gun show or mail order so the cost is reasonable .

I am not a guy out fighting in the jungle or desert , just a gun club range rat and CLP works well for me .

I will from time to time use some Butches Bore Scrub for heavy copper cleaning or a bit of grease on my Garrand or 1911 but CLP carries most of the load .


All the years I have been hanging out at the club and solving other folks gun problems I have never seen a gun fail because it had the wrong lube . It is usually a case of no oil at all , a couple drops of CLP and they are back in operation

I switched to engine oil for lube on all my guns and I'm loving it, SO much better!

Slip2000 is all I use now. Have been for many years. Keep it simple and use a similar product.

I have been using froglube for a couple years, no issues till recently.  I can not recommend that stuff at all.

2 handguns got so sluggish they would not work.  And they were properly degreased before starting to use FL.

FL was applied per directions.  I can't tolerate that gummy lube anymore.

Brunettes. Always Brunettes.

As far as what I use; MPro 7 for cleaning. Slip 2000 EWL for Lube. Both are safe to use and do fantastic jobs. Both are proven. There may be better out there, but this works and I'm not chasing down a miracle anymore.

http://www.slip2000.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Store_Code=S&Screen=PROD&Product_Code=60372

Or if you would like a bigger size;

http://www.slip2000.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Store_Code=S&Screen=PROD&Product_Code=60392


You will need this and a standard Ar rifle cleaning kit that includes a Chmber brush and a toothbrush

http://www.brownells.com/gun-cleaning-chemicals/cleaning-kits/rifle-cleaning-kits/ar-15-m16-buttstock-cleaning-kit-prod22275.aspx

Easy, Fast, Non Toxic cleaning

I've tried many, I haven't found one that I like more than Slip 2000 and Slip 2000 EWL.

Ordering this Super Lube Synthetic Grease to be delivered to my local Home Depot ... going to give it a try on my BCGs- and my SA Garand.

Too much migration with oils, especially on NiB and melonite BCGs

Thank you for recommendation.

Best lube by far is M1 10-30.  It has worked better than Slip 2000 ewl, CLP, Rem Oil, etc.  No, it is not toxic, only used motor oil is toxic.  After 500 round carbine courses the M1 10-30 stays in place much better than any of the others I mentioned. 5-30 is good too, just more runny.  Tests also show M1 has better rust protection than CLP, Slip, and most other 'gun' lubes.

There is no refinery that makes 'gun oil,' it is simply repackaged lubricant that is used in other industries...then the price is marked up 5X so the reseller can make a profit.

ETA: Super Lube grease is very nice for specific applications, water resistant and non toxic.  Lasts over a year on outdoor padlocks.   Harbor Freight carries it in store usually.

I've tried a lot of things over the years but have kept going back to this.

M-Pro-7 for most cleaning and Break Free Foaming Bore Cleaner for the bore.
Tetra grease and oil for lubing.

Every once in a while I will use a stronger copper solvent in some guns if it looks like a lot of copper buildup.
I will also use Hoppes #9 or my own mix of either kerosene or mineral spirits mixed with alcohol... basically Hoppes without the 5% ammonia or 5% banana oil. I use this when it's something I'm just going to toss in a jar for a day or so. Or say the bolt group on an AR that I've put a lot of rounds through, on the drive home. Some times a nasty pistol barrel.

And someplace I have a jar of lead remover if I shoot a lot of lead through a revolver. But really the only way to get lead out is to scrub it as far as I know.

Break Free CLP - Most of my cleaning.  A light coating for lubrication.

Ultima Lube - Grease for BCGs, pistol rails, barrel hoods, etc.  I also have a bunch of the trigger grease Giessele uses, which I bought off the EE.

Hoppe's - I bought a huge bottle of their solvent a while back.  I only use it when I need to soak something really dirty, like a piston, or BCG components that haven't been cleaned in a while.

I actually love the smell of Hoppe's.  It's kind of weird, when I quit smoking, I smelled cigarettes every time I had a craving.  I've noticed that I randomly start to smell Hoppe's here and there when I don't get to the range enough.  I used to clean everything with it, so I guess that smell is associated with range time.

I run my guns very wet at the range, since I don't really have to worry about them getting gritty in one trip.  When I run them wet with CLP, cleaning is super easy, usually just a wipe down and some minor scrubbing.

I do use some kind of foaming bore cleaner, not sure which one, but I usually put a little down the barrel before I run the bore snake down it.

3in1, or mmo, or 2cycle snomobile oil, but outboard mtr oil is "ashless" and i use it most, dont leave any carbon all over the gas rings and tail, and it always stays wet.

Cleaner: Hoppes, bore solvent, brake cleaner, etc
Lubricant: Mobile 1 (or any other synthetic motor oil).

EWL 30 for everything

I just switched to M-Pro 7 cleaner as it works better...Currently using Flog lube but I'm thinking of changing brand too.

I'll be the black sheep and say Ballistol

I use a variety of products to actually clean, but I always use CorrosionX for Guns for preserving and lubrication.

I use KG1 in the bore and eezox as clp everywhere else.  No prblems with wear or rust.

Here is a link to the definitive study of which cleaners and lubricants work best.  For those who don't like to read, Hornady One Shot is overall the best followed by Frog and WD Specialist.

https://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=546316

I like M Pro7 but it's getting expensive so I am thinking about Ballistol. I also use Gun Slick foaming bore cleaner. It's easy and the can I bought years ago hasn't run dry. I lube with WTR  grease,  Corrosion X, Breakfree CLP, sewing machine oil with some Moly disulfide powder mixed in and Dow corning G-n grease on trigger sears. If you can't tell, I like to spread my love around. They all get it done.

That was actually FireClean, which I have been using for the past couple of months. A spectral analysis showed it to be remarkable similar to Crisco Canola and Vegetable oils. (Here is a link talking about this more: http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/09/13/fireclean-defends-product-publishes-statement-on-canolaoilgate/)

Works just as good as Hoppe's #9 from what I've seen so far on my Glock and AR both, I still needs to put more rounds through them both to get a better comparison to Hoppe's. Still not sure I'd ever try and clean/lube my guns with Crisco, but I guess someone has to experiment with it...

I recently ran out of the MPro7 kit so I tired something new. Went with the Slip2000 degreaser, EWL and grease. I like it so far.

Brunettes.

And, well Hoppes can't be beat for the price and 5W-30 and Lubriplate works nice too.

You hit the nail on the head!

I really wanted to like froglube, and I was singing the praises of it. Never again, when my EDC took on the sluggish slide operations I hit the range and it took 4 hits on the primer to get a bang. Curiously, the ARs I FLed worked fine.   The EDC worked fine after a mag or two, but that was a rude awakening.   I'm back to a petroleum based lube and will prolly end up using Mobil 1 synthetic.  No more snake oil.

I use Royal Purple motor oil to clean my barrel, and Synthetic Wheel Bearing Grease to lubricate my BCG.

I see no reason to use expensive "gun" oils, and I much prefer a little grease on the carrier rails and bolt support ring over oil leaking everywhere.

I also see no reason to slather my entire gun in grease or oil.

I use G96 because it smells nice

I bought some luer lock syringes, dispenser tips and some synthetic grease whatever what mentioned prior yesterday.  Will give that a try.